Where do I stand - information witheld at time of sale.

LaurenM

LaurenM

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Hello all,

Just want to know your opinions!

Someone brought a friend to the yard who happened to recognise my new boy (owned for 3 months) and advised that the reason he was sold was down to his behaviour with previous owner (owned him for 10 months). Apparently she had a few accidents with him one of which resulted in her being airlifted to hospital. Previous owner also had alot of problems with walking him in the field - i.e. he would tank off dragging her behind.

None of this was told to me - how do I proceed in finding out what happened with the accident in order to make an informed decision?

Now that I am aware of past problems I will obviously need to tell the next person (should I ever sell/ loan) - would this effect his value?
 
Have you had problems sometimes it's the handler & not the horse. I know someone who had big problems handling her horse but he was fine with anybody else.
 
Catching him is the hardest thing I've found with him - it can take up to two hours but I've put that down to lack of trust?

He can be funny in the field but I always put him in his place if he tries to tank off when walking him out. He's getting there it's just taking a while but I don't mind as I knew it wouldn't happen over night.

Apart from that I trust him and have bonded with him.
 
Thanks for the help :)

I've been having lessons with him so it'll help me not think about what happened in his past and focus on our future! :D
 
Judge the horse on the way he acts with you not how he may (or may not) have acted with someone else. You dont know this other owner so you dont know if she was a novice, an idiot or what. I never believe anything any seller says anyway so for me I dont care what might or might not have happened in any of my horses pasts. I treat all new ones as blank canvases.
 
jaypeebee said:
Judge the horse on the way he acts with you not how he may (or may not) have acted with someone else. You dont know this other owner so you dont know if she was a novice, an idiot or what. I never believe anything any seller says anyway so for me I dont care what might or might not have happened in any of my horses pasts. I treat all new ones as blank canvases.
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Thank you. I feel for him - he's been passed from pillar to post (judging from the last 2 years) so I hope it works out for both of us!
 
I don't think you need to make a decision about anything - if he's been fine with you then great. No need to tell a future buyer about something you've found out about a past home unless it is also something that you've found to be the case whilst in your care. Disclosure is a tough thing - if they lied to a direct question about the horse when you bought him then fair enough but unless they have failed to declare a vice or medical condition (I think that even sweetitch is included in this now?) I don't think there's much you can do about it. Let's just hope that (as it does sound from your response) that whatever issues he had before will be ironed out with better care from you than his previous owner.

When I bought my horse I didn't speak to his actual owner until after I'd had him delivered (I bought him through an agent and a friend went to try him for me due to distance). The first thing the man said when I asked why he had sold the horse was "he landed me in hospital". Well this wasn't exactly what I wanted to hear. It turned out he had cat leaped a huge hedge at the rider's insistence and the man had landed behind the saddle, fallen off and broken some ribs. I have now found out that the man was a real numpty novce rider. My horse has cat leaped with me and it hasn't unseated me - so one's person 'issue' is not necessarily anothers.

Sounds like you are getting on fine with him - let's hope he continues to prove himself to be what you wanted. Good luck with him x
 
Thanks angelbones!

That's what I thought about the accident - the lady barely rode him but allowed friend's to ride him so I think she just couldn't over come her nerves with him plus he's not the 'first horse' type which I think she wanted despite him being my first!
 
Let me get this straight.

You have a horse, who aside from being a bit funny in the field, is fine.

Someone YOU do not know turns up, a friend of a someone, and claims horse is a psycho who hospitalised his old owner.

And now you're wondering if you should do anything about it?

From the sellers POV, we had some little cow like this "someone" going around telling everyone our horse had hospitalised me and she'd seen it happen. Fantastic story, because I was the one hospitalised and I don't remember it, my mother doesn't know about it, and my hospital records don't seem to exist for it!

Be VERY wary of people who "know" a horse from before. Be ESPECIALLY wary when the horse is apparently crazy.

You're not having problems, so ignore this someone and let them get on with their strange fantasy!
 
She knew too much about him and previous owner for her to make it up. She said so many negative things that I felt like I had to defend my boy so haven't take all that much notice of her!

When I asked her how the accident happened she couldn't tell me either! Just hope I don't run into her again!

There are always the odd bitter/ crazy few!
 
A few weeks ago I had an accident -horse spooked as I was opening a gate. I was knocked over, horse went over the top of me & I got a hoof in the face. I had cuts & bruises, broken glasses & a corking black eye. I was up and able to call an ambulance myself. 2 weeks later someone told me they'd heard I was airlifted to hospital unconscious with severe head injuries! We had a good laugh about it as we'd been talking the day after the accident but it just goes to show you can't believe everything you hear about an incident.
 
We've had ponies and a horse that have been labelled as dangerous and difficult. We have been quite surprised by these descriptions, when we've heard them - usually very retrospectively. They just must have liked us more than their previous people!
 
This is totally infuriating and I don't know why people feel the need to pass on negative information like this. After buying my supposedly safe, 100% confidence giving cob someone came along and told me how it was agressive to people and horses, broke the previous girls collar bone and had been through every trainer in the area.
Prior to this knowledge although nervous from a previous accident I was happy on the horse because I believed it was safe and put the bolshyness etc down to new home blah blah. Horse is agressive in stable but with boundries now is manageable. Anyway thanks to this helpful person my fragile confidence has been shattered and ponio is taking serious advantage of this fact and my excitement at having this horse has been destroyed. No horse is perfect and this one had been to trainers but it was down to the girl not the horse (well 80% of it anyway). Sad thing is that although I know this its really ruined the start of having this horse and created yet another huge thing to get over confidence wise.
Like everyone else has said IGNORE! Sounds like you are doing fab and previous owner didn't have a clue, just hope it doesn't ruin your fun.
 
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