Where has the word mongrel gone!?!

[Galupy]

'Dog guardian' is another one used in the council area we visit in the USA.

Actually, around these parts we prefer it if you refer to them by the term "dog children" which is by far the most correct term available.

Thank you.

'So if I do not 'own' my dog and it is not my 'property' hey, he can go and live with someone else if he feels like it, or someone can take him away from here, because I cannot 'own' him - RIGHT?!

That would be the logical conclusion from non-ownership wouldn't it? Some groups might try to get changed but they will have a long fight on their hands. Dogs being considered property makes their owners very liable for what they do. I can't see that changing for the purpose of being PC ..

 

[Kaylum]

Actually the shorter legged ones are also a breed but not a KC recognised breed.
I remember the hoops the parsons went through for recognition.

There are registries for short legged ones and some of them, eg FCI & in Australia, are legitimate.


Unfortunately the general public lacks awareness of what a breed is or what a pedigree is.

I hate to say it but anything that looks like a Jr is called one.

As for pedigree x pedigree well nobody with a good pedigree stud dog puts it to a different breed as they won't as they have pride in what they breed. BTW love Jrs

 

[lq22]

I call my dug many names and describe her in several ways including mutt, mongrel, flea bag, pup, pooch, poopy, doggy, DOGGETYOURBUTHERENOW etc.

I have no shame or embarrassment in calling her any of those names.

 

[Dobiegirl]

My dogs get called names that can not be printed here but stinker is usually the mildest.

I never had a problem with my Battersea dog being called a mongrel because that is exactly what she was but she was loved as much as my pedigree dogs. I think people these days see it as a stigma and the world has gone pc mad as far as Im concerned.

 

[HeatherAnn]

I'll say that a dog is a cross breed if the mother and father's breeds are known but mongrel or "heinz" as my mum calls them. If I took mine to the groomer I would say he is a border collie X because his fur and body shape are more border collie but if I was talking about his temperament/behaviour I would say he is a lab X. Also, as I can't make a new thread asking (as I am on my phone and don't have a pc), can anyone knowledgable in dog grooming pm me please? We are in a bit of a pickle. Thanks x

 

[lexiedhb]

Mine is defo a mongrel! Give it a cutsie made up name and you can charge £500 extra for a pup is where the the word mongrel has gone!!

 

[paisley]

Always called mine a skinny mongrel
Only term I've been illogically offended by was today, when said skinny mongrel was minding his own business (on squirrel patrol), and ignoring the rather tubby labrador whose owner said "Oh come on, it doesnt want to play"
It?! Humph!

 

[ladyearl]

two breeds = a crossbreed
more than that = a mongrel

For some reason people have started to find the word mongrel offensive. I have also been known to call a mongrel a "bitsa" i.e. bits of this and that. It's quite funny on my walks when people ask what breed is that and I say oh he's a Bitsa - and they walk off before I explain!

I heard tale of a lady who had her Border Collie DNA tested to find it was 80% doberman 10% parsons JR and a few other breeds made up the remaining 10%.

 

[Ranyhyn]

In Italy they call mongrels bastardos (well unless they were winding my mum up)

 

[Murphs_Mum]

My old dog (who ex hubby has custody of :-() is definitely a mongrel. Looks like a corgi that some one stuck a JRT head on and a foxes tail put on too high!. Came from woodgreen at three and is now 10. He is awesome but definitely a mongrel and certainly wouldn't have bought a horse with is conformation!

Current dog is a JRT and I also think type not breed. Daddy was a parsons, mummy was a JRT type that was abandoned by the gipsies after being hit by a car. The vet who treated her kept her and hey presto two years later my little fellow and two more terrorists arrived! Would not change him for the world.

 

[rhino]

In Italy they call mongrels bastardos (well unless they were winding my mum up)

I didn't realise I knew any Italian but I'm sure I've called my dog something very similar on occasion

 

[ladyearl]

Can I just add it's not a great idea to say Cockerpoo instead of cocker spaniel cross poodle. I know that this is becoming a known "breed" but in my head I think I am looking for something kind of cockerish as that is the first word but if someone says blah cross blah then I look for both.

This would make more sense if I explain there is a dog gone missing about my village. I got a text about it and have been keeping an eye out. Just saw the actual poster about it and it looks like a poodle more than a cocker.............

 

[GeeGeeboy]

Not sure of your point Ladyearl! The whole point of the thread is that the word cockerpoochon is ridiculous . Don't think anyone mentioned cockerpoos.

 

[Alec Swan]

Just too confuse the issue a little further, I once looked up the word in a dictionary, and it said;

"A dog of unknown parentage", which I suppose would mean that if you knew who the parents were, it wouldn't be a mongrel.

For me, a dog would be either Pedigree, or Crossbred.

Alec.

 

[ladyearl]

Sorry got a bit ranting when I saw that poster.


What I was meaning was that not only is cockerpoo a bonkers word but if it's a cross breed i.e. two known breeds crossed then it makes more sense to say oh my dog is a cocker spaniel crossed with a poodle. Or as one poster suggested use the breed that is most predominant in this case say a poodle cross.

IMO a mongrel is a mix of more than two breeds.

 

[Clava]

JRTs are a breed but unfortunately all too often people do apply the term to mutts.

!

Quite right, they are a breed, but just not recognised by the Kennel club. Parsons have only been recognised for about 20 years or so.

 

[ChesnutsRoasting]

Quite right, they are a breed, but just not recognised by the Kennel club. Parsons have only been recognised for about 20 years or so.

Not a fan of the KC, but if a 'breed' isn't recognised by then it's not a pure breed. That does sound ironic when you consider some of the dogs they give rosettes to.

 

[EAST KENT]

Only the Parson JRT is a breed, they are taller/longer legged than the usual 'type' called simply JRTs

Mmm..well not quite true,there are lots of extremely nice JR types..straight legged and balanced..being shown at Hunt working terrier shows.The standard of the exhibits is very high indeed,and competition fierce.Most of them work below ground as well,truly dual purpose dogs "fit for purpose,fit for life" in the true sense.Some of them are 13" ,so far superior in the true working sense than those too tall Parson`s.

 

[Clava]

Mmm..well not quite true,there are lots of extremely nice JR types..straight legged and balanced..being shown at Hunt working terrier shows.The standard of the exhibits is very high indeed,and competition fierce.Most of them work below ground as well,truly dual purpose dogs "fit for purpose,fit for life" in the true sense.Some of them are 13" ,so far superior in the true working sense than those too tall Parson`s.

I agree there are some lovely JRTs and they have been around as long as the Parson's (The man himself breeding the taller dogs and his game keeper worked on the shorter variety), both are excellent working dogs they are just different. An inch difference if some are 13" is hardly much difference as most Parsons are 14".