Where's he gone? Banned again?

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I got home this evening, prised my daughter off the computer and found Ken-Rehill-Britbreeder's latest defamation removed and the whole breeding forum strangely serene - except for this PM, which I thought I'd share with you...

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At some point you're going to take a deep deep breath and unclench. I hope you do, as your tirade against Ken is wasted. He gets to see what you write, every couple of days, but really can't be bothered with the whole deal on this forum. He's a busy man with a successful business to run, and bored housewives don't figure on his radar. You're not even a breeder, so really what's your beef?

You're world class at avoiding answering questions, and now you've slandered him on the forum, and you probably won't be able to edit that out now.

Please take a little time to go back through your posts and see, that you are doing exactly what you accused him of doing. So does that make you the same as him? Yes it does. You're no better and no worse. Just exactly the same.

You've been told a load of times that Ken's IP address has been blocked, so he can't even see what's being written here, unless I cut and paste it to him or speak to him which I do most days. And as I said, he's not enormously interested.

With the slandering thing, though, you've definately overstepped the mark and he'll be speaking with the heads of Horse and Hound tomorrow morning. The worst that can happen is that you're banned. That doesn't really matter to you, because you hide behind your anonymity. But you have been way out of line here, you need to find something to take up your time I think.


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So if I suddenly vanish tomorrow, you'll know that Ken has summoned the Heads of Horse & Hound grovelling into his august presence & commanded my removal.

I particularly like the way KH is so uninterested in what goes on here that he has his alter ego Britbreeder cut & paste it all to him.

And "unclench"... "unclench" is good... Very anal....

But- the real question- is he in fact banned again?
 
I just know it's far pleasanter without him!
I've been out all day, are we talking about his stallion post again? Strange that others aren't able to plug their own stallions yet he seems to get away with it. Does he really spend so much on advertising here?!
 
Yes I'd agree that it is a little bit more pleasant without him around ... however, although Ken and I had a disagreement, and at times I certainly find him incredibly overbearing, he IS knowledgeable (in my opinion) and it is almost a pity that he isn't on here any more. He isn't the only one on here with his head up his butt from time to time, Lol!

I still don't post on this forum very often, however I do read it and I do think that Ken had a place here, even if some (me included) didn't care a whole load for his conversational manner.

I found him a bit of an enigma though - does he actually own any stallions or breeding mares? Or is he just a salesman?
 
If he's going to start using the 'ooooh, defamation' thing then I hope anyone who was on the receiving end of one of his temper tantrums and hence was completely disregarded professionally, does too.

For someone who regards themself to be the bee's knee's and doesn't care for 'bored housewives' then cares far more than I thought about some internet forum if he's having someone else cut + paste him extracts from it
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I have to say though, that I haven't seen a huge improvement in the 'pleasantness' of the breeding forum since he's gone and that is not just due to the britbreed gumpf; it is as if those who were previously dragged into disputes with Ken are still smarting and in 'battle mode' so discussions now always degenerate into mudslinging and bitchiness, with those who have less knowledge than others being completley disregarded. I'm sure many people won't agree with this, but I continue to lurk in the breeding forum rather than participate because I have no desire to make a contribution, take part in a discussion and then when someone doesn't agree with what I say try to discredit me or start making personal digs - I know very little about breeding compared to a lot on here but those who are knowledgable would do well to remember that they were not born with an encyclopedic knowledge of breeding, they had to learn it in the same way that I and others are learning.

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I think it's very good that the thread in question was cleaned up. Very well done of the admins.

My wish would be, that britbreeder would shape up and share his/her knowledge (which he/she seems to have) without talking bad about others. No reason for that in a public forum IMHO.

And why be sarcastic (there might be a better word) against others? I can't see any reason for that.

As for IP addresses - I wouldn't count on them. They can change. And some people know how to change them easily. Have had some experience with that *sigh*.

Just my 2 cents/pennies or whatever
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Regards,
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(...) I have no desire to make a contribution, take part in a discussion and then when someone doesn't agree with what I say try to discredit me or start making personal digs - I know very little about breeding compared to a lot on here but those who are knowledgable would do well to remember that they were not born with an encyclopedic knowledge of breeding, they had to learn it in the same way that I and others are learning.

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What you write here is just horrible. I am all new here but I truly feel that anyone should feel free to ask questions and discuss things. The only thing that can upset me (which I'm too new to have seen in this forum) is when someone who obviously don't have that much knowledge make statements that's not true and then refuses to listen (i.e. gets naughty) when someone who knows clarifies things.

I surely hope that you would feel free to ask whatever you like here, related to breeding... As I said in another post, there aren't any dumb questions, only dumb answers
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I have to say that I know very little about breeding, but have had a long term amateur interest in it.
I find the breeding folks in here are actually very helpful; I have 'toggled' the thread where I asked for advice about putting my old mare in foal, so that I can think properly about it during the winter and come to a decision. Nobody was unhelpful to me in that thread, even Ken
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Although some breeders do use this forum to promote their stallions, I can appreciate that too, as long as it is nicely done (a marketing orientation, rather than product, production or selling orientations).
My final point is that we are all in control of our own emotions and reactions; I choose never to be upset by anything someone from a forum might say to me - there is always the UI button, or even better, the little red cross to press
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I think a lot of unsubstantiated bitchiness could be avoided if people actually posted using their real names instead of hiding behind avatar's. When you're anonymous it's easy to throw mud at people because they don't know the source of it and so can't easily deal with it, and you can hide behind your pretend persona like a naughty child.

IMHO - If you've got something ligitimate to say - put your money where your mouth is and print who you really are. If you need to hide behind your avatar, I personally will take anything you say with a huge pinch of salt.

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What - like Janet George? Or Ken Rehill?

HHO forum was not set up purely for people running businesses
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Anyone who has been on here for more than a few months generally pick up on who people are, because most people on HHO are forthright and tell you who they are
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People who choses to disregard anything anyone says because they don't have their name as their username is entitled to do this, but I think that is a very short sighted and irrational thing to do... if you feel this way then I think you should take everything everyone says with a pinch of salt, because I really don't think people are out to get you, just because they chose to use a username rather than their own name, Lol!
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What - like Janet George? Or Ken Rehill?

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ROFL. I think that Julia must have led a very sheltered life on this forum so far if she has managed to avoid coming across a thread with fairly strongly worded post from either of those too.

Oh, yes and congratulations to Julia on her recent (announced today) appointment to NED board with responsibility for IT matters. Nw you know the person to fire all your questions at when your horses are incorrectly listed or appear in duplicate. Means I can have a few more restful weekends when you are all having problesm when doing your Futurity entries next year -- so thanks for taking that one on Julia :-), it can be a pretty stressful and thankless task being in the firing line for that. And BTW, for those who are interested, the director responsible for studbook liaision is Corrina Duncan (formerly of Genus Equine and Equine AI) should you need to check up on what your studbook is doing/plans to do about volutary data etc. Thought you might all like to know that.

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HHO forum was not set up purely for people running businesses
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. It was set up for people who wanted to chat to other horsey people; not for any publicity or personal gain.

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And hopefully for information exchange and networking as well :-)

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Anyone who has been on here for more than a few months generally pick up on who people are, because most people on HHO are forthright and tell you who they are
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Have to agre there. There was a meeting last week (nothing to do with the forum) at which of the 18 people present 10 were HHO members, mostly on this particular section plus a couple of lurkers and we all knew who we were -- and our alter egos as well., made for some fascinating exchanges -- and the two people who gave their excuses becuase they couldn't come were also forum members too.

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People who choses to disregard anything anyone says because they don't have their name as their username is entitled to do this, but I think that is a very short sighted and irrational thing to do... if you feel this way then I think you should take everything everyone says with a pinch of salt, because I really don't think people are out to get you, just because they chose to use a username rather than their own name, Lol!
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Again, have to agree there.
 
I find this forum incredibly valuable, and the advice and input from the experienced people on it has been really helpful to us as inexperienced breeders over the past year .... I must say that I have never felt at the butt end of anyone's bitchiness, or that anyone was being patronising to us as beginners at this game .... and I definitely pick up a more serene and gentle atmostphere on here recently! Although some of the exchanges were entertaining, they did divert an awful lot of energy and input into negative stuff, and it all feels very civilised now! Long may it continue ....
 
Gosh! So I'm still here! So in the spirit of peace & harmony I'm going to delete that first post (if I can
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& yes, I think Rufusbluemoon has just about summed it up.
 
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What - like Janet George? Or Ken Rehill?

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ROFL. I think that Julia must have led a very sheltered life on this forum so far if she has managed to avoid coming across a thread with fairly strongly worded post from either of those too.

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That's me... sheltered
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Fear not, whilst I've never knowingly crossed swords with Janet, I've certainly had both public and private 'exchanges' with Ken
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Oh, yes and congratulations to Julia on her recent (announced today) appointment to NED board with responsibility for IT matters. Nw you know the person to fire all your questions at when your horses are incorrectly listed or appear in duplicate. Means I can have a few more restful weekends when you are all having problesm when doing your Futurity entries next year -- so thanks for taking that one on Julia :-)

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Thanks sooooo much for that Celia(!). Your very kind outline of my job description funnily enough doesn't quite match the one the BEF have given me!! My job title is actually Director for Data Provider Liaison & IT - so my primary focus is supporting the stud books, PIOs and Disciplines with making their data available via NED. That said I would be delighted to hear from our users - you guys - about how to improve NED and any technical issues you find. One important point to note though is that some parts of the data that NED displays are mandatory - age, sex etc. and should be there in all cases, but pedigree information for example is voluntary, and therefore at the discretion of the stud books as to whether they provide it to NED. If your horse's pedigree is not shown in NED, it may well be that at this moment the stud book have not agreed to provide that data yet. This is something that we are working on as the goal is to have all this information for all horses.

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Anyone who has been on here for more than a few months generally pick up on who people are, because most people on HHO are forthright and tell you who they are
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People who choses to disregard anything anyone says because they don't have their name as their username is entitled to do this, but I think that is a very short sighted and irrational thing to do... if you feel this way then I think you should take everything everyone says with a pinch of salt, because I really don't think people are out to get you, just because they chose to use a username rather than their own name, Lol!
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I don't think anyone thinks people are out to get them, or that they disregard everything anyone who doesn't use their real name says. That's being rather extreme and misinterpreting what posters are saying. I think it's more a case of threads where people make questionable comments without substantiating them that I have an issue with. Not everyone does know who people are on this forum who don't use their real name, as not everyone lives on this forum. I'm not sure what the aversion to using your name is? Where's the harm in being open about who you are? Perhaps if you're thinking of posting something, it's quite a good litmus test to ask yourself "would I post this if everyone knew who I was?". I've found the majority of posters on this forum to be friendly and constructive but like most forums it has it's quota of trolls who all, funnily enough, don't use their own names.... I wonder why?!
 
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What's the big deal about names?
Shilasdair isn't my real name, yet I don't think I behave any worse than people who use their real names. Unlike Ken, for example, I have never been banned, nor had a warning from Admin.
Perhaps not everyone who works in the equine industry wants to/needs to publicise themselves; maybe they just use the forum socially rather than professionally?
And what's in a name, anyway? If I tell you my real name is 'Mor' would that make any difference to the quality of my posts? I don't think so.
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Whilst the anonymity thing can obviously be abused, I think the more experienced and indeed the professional breeders on here don't always realise how difficult it can be for an amateur or small or hobby breeder to bring themselves to post at all.

I'm always amazed by the number of people who seem to read the forum, must be interested, must have an opinion, but don't feel they can give it. I think an insistance on real names could make newbies feel even more exposed and the established people even more scary. Business people need the exposure and maybe court it to some extent, but it can be intimidating to others.

I've found that most people will give their real identity in a pm- as I generally will myself. Also, that before he was obliged to become Britbreeder, Ken positively relished steamrollering through the forum under his own name; and it certainly didn't make his views any more valid than those of, say, Ciss, Volatis, Henryhorn, Anastasia AND all the rest of you.

I think one of the best things about the forum is that it does allow people to "cyber" meet & talk to each other who might normally be poles apart in the horse world, through their chosen discipline, their experience, their geographic location, their age even- and the anonymity oils the wheels to some extent.

In fact, I think it works pretty well as it is, to be honest.
 
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Thanks sooooo much for that Celia(!). Your very kind outline of my job description funnily enough doesn't quite match the one the BEF have given me!
My job title is actually Director for Data Provider Liaison & IT - so my primary focus is supporting the stud books, PIOs and Disciplines with making their data available via NED. That said I would be delighted to hear from our users - you guys - about how to improve NED and any technical issues you find.

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Hope you don't work fulltime then and that you have a lot of evebnings and weekends free to answer/ address them as the posters on here are a pretty inquisitive and demanding lot and often expect immediate answers to their questions, usually in public too (so not responding just tends to make things worse!)

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One important point to note though is that some parts of the data that NED displays are mandatory - age, sex etc. and should be there in all cases, but pedigree information for example is voluntary, and therefore at the discretion of the stud books as to whether they provide it to NED. If your horse's pedigree is not shown in NED, it may well be that at this moment the stud book have not agreed to provide that data yet.

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I think that most of the people on this board know that -- many of them have after all been grading their stallions and mares and registering their foals with a wide variety of studbooks for quite a number of years. And the direct pressure that SHBGB got from forum members when they discovered (often as part of the Futurity sign up process) that it was still not -- at that point -- providing voluntary data did play quite a significant part in concentrating SHBGB's mind on agreeing to do this.

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This is something that we are working on as the goal is to have all this information for all horses.

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I thought it was just the Arabs that were the main stumbling block now -- apart from a few smaller ones whose lack of IT expertise and voluntary support is a very natural limiting factor in what they do. Hopefully you will be able to help these in a sympathetic supportive way as they are often one person working a couple of 1/2 days a week for free on an aged computer on a kitchen table -- a world away from the big, professional sports horse and warmblood studbooks and international city firms.

The Arabs OTOH could be a much tougher nut to crack. Perhaps a PM to Htobago might help you there as to which person would be the best to target first as internal politics lie at the bottom of that rather than technical issues. But sorry I don't know Htobago's name, although as with most forum members it is probably possible to find out by other means (through her stallion's show record for instance) if really necessary. It's just that its really not necessary on the forum as she proves her credentials in other ways.

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I think it's more a case of threads where people make questionable comments without substantiating them that I have an issue with. Not everyone does know who people are on this forum who don't use their real name, as not everyone lives on this forum. I'm not sure what the aversion to using your name is? Where's the harm in being open about who you are? Perhaps if you're thinking of posting something, it's quite a good litmus test to ask yourself "would I post this if everyone knew who I was?". I've found the majority of posters on this forum to be friendly and constructive but like most forums it has it's quota of trolls who all, funnily enough, don't use their own names.... I wonder why?!

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And mentioning in passing the name of the person you think you are replying to is one of the worst breaches of netiquette that you can ever make, probably not as bad as trolling, but by linking those forum members (such as Volatis, Tarr-Steps and Anastasia to name but three who provide extremely valuable *non personally promoting* general and specific fedback in public an private on the Futuirty, NED, the PSHP stallion parades and many other such activities) to the possibility that they make trolling posts makes it even worse as it implies they all are trolls, which they most are definetly not.

I am sure that you did not mean to do that Julia but it is a lesson to bear in mind for the future, especially as NED, the Futurity and thwe PSHP absolutely needs continuing support from such people as these, both on the forum and off it (many of them help actively behind the scenes as you may have been told).
 
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and the two people who gave their excuses becuase they couldn't come were also forum members too

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Ahem.....I did email Jan to find out the nearest airport for said meeting, but nobody wanted to talk to me....and it then got too near the date to organise going down... Could have driven but would have had to leave the day before......ROFL..
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Hope my points via email were discussed, if they arrived in time..
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Anyway.....think it would be a HUGE impossibility for anyone NOT to know who I am on this forum....
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But I agree a lot can be learned from each other, and I think a great deal has been learned since the breeding part of HHO came into being, as being one of the original HHOers involved in here from the start...
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Yes people can hide behind masks, but the genuine folk are genuine, and most people tend to know who you are, especially if you have been on this forum for a long time.
 
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This is something that we are working on as the goal is to have all this information for all horses.

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I thought it was just the Arabs that were the main stumbling block now -- apart from a few smaller ones whose lack of IT expertise and voluntary support is a very natural limiting factor in what they do. Hopefully you will be able to help these in a sympathetic supportive way as they are often one person working a couple of 1/2 days a week for free on an aged computer on a kitchen table -- a world away from the big, professional sports horse and warmblood studbooks and international city firms.

The Arabs OTOH could be a much tougher nut to crack. Perhaps a PM to Htobago might help you there as to which person would be the best to target first as internal politics lie at the bottom of that rather than technical issues. But sorry I don't know Htobago's name, although as with most forum members it is probably possible to find out by other means (through her stallion's show record for instance) if really necessary. It's just that its really not necessary on the forum as she proves her credentials in other ways.

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Thanks Ciss! I'm somewhat confused here as I don't know much about NED or what is required - but if I can help at all with the Arab thing, I will!

No detective-work is needed to find out my name - just click on my username and go to my 'profile' - my real name (Kate Fox) is there, along with other details such as my occupation. I have nothing to hide!

Julia: The vast majority of people on here use their horses' names as usernames, or some other name that has some personal meaning for them, indicates their main interest (e.g. 'eventrider') or is amusing or whatever. This is common practice on all forums, not some sinister attempt to disguise our identity! As various people have said, we are not here to promote ourselves or to do business, but to exchange views and ideas and experiences, to learn from each other and just to have fun chatting about horses.
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Hope you don't work fulltime then and that you have a lot of evebnings and weekends free to answer/ address them as the posters on here are a pretty inquisitive and demanding lot and often expect immediate answers to their questions, usually in public too (so not responding just tends to make things worse!)

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Celia - you know I have a full time job so I'm not sure where that comment is coming from
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This is something that we are working on as the goal is to have all this information for all horses.

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I thought it was just the Arabs that were the main stumbling block now -- apart from a few smaller ones whose lack of IT expertise and voluntary support is a very natural limiting factor in what they do. Hopefully you will be able to help these in a sympathetic supportive way as they are often one person working a couple of 1/2 days a week for free on an aged computer on a kitchen table -- a world away from the big, professional sports horse and warmblood studbooks and international city firms.

The Arabs OTOH could be a much tougher nut to crack. Perhaps a PM to Htobago might help you there as to which person would be the best to target first as internal politics lie at the bottom of that rather than technical issues. But sorry I don't know Htobago's name, although as with most forum members it is probably possible to find out by other means (through her stallion's show record for instance) if really necessary. It's just that its really not necessary on the forum as she proves her credentials in other ways.

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We are working through a number of issues relating both to studbooks making the voluntary information available, and the technical considerations involved in physically getting the information. No, it's not just the Arab Horse Society that we are still looking to get improved data from. I understand we have a contact in the Arab Horse Society and progress is promising. I've no doubt that I will be in contact with Htobago along with quite a few other members of the H&H forum as time goes by! I'm sure their help and advice will be worth it's weight in gold as we move forward with this
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I think it's more a case of threads where people make questionable comments without substantiating them that I have an issue with. Not everyone does know who people are on this forum who don't use their real name, as not everyone lives on this forum. I'm not sure what the aversion to using your name is? Where's the harm in being open about who you are? Perhaps if you're thinking of posting something, it's quite a good litmus test to ask yourself "would I post this if everyone knew who I was?". I've found the majority of posters on this forum to be friendly and constructive but like most forums it has it's quota of trolls who all, funnily enough, don't use their own names.... I wonder why?!

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And mentioning in passing the name of the person you think you are replying to is one of the worst breaches of netiquette that you can ever make, probably not as bad as trolling, but by linking those forum members (such as Volatis, Tarr-Steps and Anastasia to name but three who provide extremely valuable *non personally promoting* general and specific fedback in public an private on the Futuirty, NED, the PSHP stallion parades and many other such activities) to the possibility that they make trolling posts makes it even worse as it implies they all are trolls, which they most are definetly not.

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...again I'm not sure where you're coming from on this
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I am sure that you did not mean to do that Julia but it is a lesson to bear in mind for the future, especially as NED, the Futurity and thwe PSHP absolutely needs continuing support from such people as these, both on the forum and off it (many of them help actively behind the scenes as you may have been told).

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Thanks Celia, I'm aware of how much help people in the horse community provide to all horse-related activities
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I hope that sets the record straight on quite a few things
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Hope you don't work fulltime then and that you have a lot of evebnings and weekends free to answer/ address them as the posters on here are a pretty inquisitive and demanding lot and often expect immediate answers to their questions, usually in public too (so not responding just tends to make things worse!)

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Just to clarify it for everyone - I'm not an employee of NED, there is a team of people there to deal with the operation of the system as there always has been. My job will not be to field day to day enquiries but to help support the NED team and the Data Providers to enable the best possible information to available through NED, and to help steer the IT strategy. I'm not the new IT helpdesk!
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The thought of the Director for Data Provider Liaison & IT being responsible for answering breeders' NED queries made me laugh!! Congratulations on the new job.
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Would someone explain to me what a troll is and I don't mean the naked spiky hair variety, and am I one!!!!!!!!!!!

Runs back under bridge!!!!!!!!!!

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A troll is a term for a forum user who appears only to cause trouble. It's a bit of an insult to call someone a troll...
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Would someone explain to me what a troll is and I don't mean the naked spiky hair variety, and am I one!!!!!!!!!!!

Runs back under bridge!!!!!!!!!!

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Trolls are those nasty folk that don't contribute anything positive to forums, but just enjoy throwing mud and trying to discredit others achievements.

..and for the sake of clarity... NO YOU'RE DEFINATELY NOT A TROLL !!! LOL!!!
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The thought of the Director for Data Provider Liaison & IT being responsible for answering breeders' NED queries made me laugh!! Congratulations on the new job.
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Thanks Wisnette - I think it's what's technically termed a 'challenge' ha ha ha
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Ohhhhh got it now.
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Thank you

I really enjoy this forum and have learnt a great deal in the short time I have been here. There have been the heated discussions, but when people are passionate about what they do, you will always see that happening, it is human nature.

We see many diverse breeders on here from the minis through to the Suffolks, from happy hacker through to Olympic hopeful and I am sure that I can say, every single one of them feel that what they are producing is done to the best of their ability and knowledge.

A great old nags man once told me "The minute you think you know everything there is to know about horses, that is the time to hang up your hat, as you have learnt nothing".


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Are JuliaFSH and Julia Hodkin the same person? I've been looking through your website, and see that you are a semen agent and a stallion owner (as well as working fulltime
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Is is entirely appropriate for the NED to appoint someone who is a semen agent and stallion owner (I assume you sell his semen for profit) in a position where they have access to valuable information concerning breeders names and addresses?

I would say there's a conflict of interest there, and NED need to be very careful. This is not in anyway personal to Julia, as I'm sure her intentions are good, but the breed societies may not feel very happy about this, especially as it took so long to gain their trust.

Who else have they appointed?
 
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