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i know theres alot of posts about this and that but i thought id post again, so im not bomebarding some1 elses post,

ok so ive posted a few times about my very excitable mare, ive swaped onto hi fi lite, seems to be helping a little but not as much as id like, my chief instructor of the pony club sugested naf magic, and after seeing the price i thought d post here and see what yous think? any1 had experiance with it? good or bad? is tthere a cheaper better alternative? just really needing help getting the right product before i get my mum to get magic whne theres someting else i could be using. shes not usually bad bad but is just very excitable, might have the odd time when shes good but i would rather put her on sumthing which is gona help all teh time.

i also posted about her tongue sticking out and only have ahad 2 reply so could some1 else help me with that to.

thanxs in advance
comments will be greatly appreciated
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Alex
 
Can't help with the tongue sticking out but can with the calmer. I've tried Naf Magic on my spooky, nervy welsh x and found it did nothing.
He has now been on Equine Americas Magnitude for 2 months and the difference in him is out of this world.
Cos he is nervy, he was using all his own magnesium up and what magnitude does is replace what he uses.
Now not so eye bulging and tensing up.
Lasts 6 months for around £15.
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magic is a magnesium based calmer which will work wonders if the cause of your horse's problem is a magnesium deficiency. If it's for some other reason then a different product may be better. People often think that there is one great product which out performs all others when, like everything else, the results depend on the cause of the problem and the way your particular horse responds. Trial and error or some scientific evidence is what you need to do/find.
 
where did u buy that? mines isnt very spooky or nerves just is strong minding is the way i describe her, typical woman ALWAYS wants her own way and puts up a fight to get it but try not to let her win and just sit there so shes fighting against her self, most of the troubles coming home the min we turn for home or she knows we are half way there and its now back to yard she starts, but she takes ages to calm at lessons, shows, pony club, she is just very excitable all the time, usually not dangerous tho, and i think if i just leave her its just going to get worse, she gets her slef really wound up, because i ask her to walk and shes constantly trying to go faster, sometimes she wont listen until ur scream at her, i often have to get of an walk because she just wont give up sometimes.

so do you think she is using up her magnesium?

thanxs, i hope i get this sorted! how long did it take to have an effect?
 
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Noticed a difference in him within a few days.
I'm saying not all calmers will suit all horses but this one has worked with ours where magic didn't.
Good luck with her and give us an update.

Have you tried her in a stronger bit out hacking and have you thought about just a syringe of a calmer at shows etc.
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where did u buy this stuff ? whats it called again?

shes quite sensetive in the mout and have tried for 2 years to get a suitable bit and she seems to accept the lose ringe snaffle best, i hardly do shows now just becasue of the way she is its not just shows she like this its all the time lol
 
Another vote to magnatude - after a week on my very stubborn tb with the concentration span of a gnat i saw a big improvement - and its much better value - £15 from derby house for 6 months.
Good luck!
 
Hi - I Speak as one who has tried most of the calmers on the market and my favorite one is "bum in the saddle" recommended to me by an old farmer
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It really works!
 
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Hi - I Speak as one who has tried most of the calmers on the market and my favorite one is "bum in the saddle" recommended to me by an old farmer
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It really works!

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ok im wanting to try equine america magnitude, but cant decide because of all the others, i think with afew peopel saying this is a good choice i will get some and try it, if its only £15 then if it doesnt work its better than paying £25 for the magic.

if any 1 esle wants to sugeest or make a comment on the equine america magnitude im all ears

thanxs so far guys
 
I've just ordered Magnitude too. Naf magic wasn't rated as much. Will have to let u know how shes goes on it before i can comment. But its so cheap and anything is worth a try for me at the moment!
 
Ive just finished a tub of globalherbs supercalm and although I thought it made a slight difference, it wasnt huge and at the rate I was having to feed it at, would be going through 2 tubs a month which seems a bit extreme.
Have also tried NAF magic and didnt find it made that much difference.
Have a tub of magnitude on order so will see how we go with that....
 
You may have already mentioned this on an earlier post so sorry if I am asking you something you have already made comment on, but are you sure your mare's teeth are okay? Being as you are asking about her tongue sticking out, and the fact that she is strong have you had her mouth checked. If she has sore cheeks, gums or teeth then this may be why she is sticking her tongue out and why she is so strong. Its just a suggestion. With the best will in the world if she is in pain anywhere then no amount of calmer will lessen the symptoms she is showing. If you have already had her teeth checked by an EDT (with the EDT using a gag to really have a good look in her mouth for any signs of problems) then you might like to try a mouthpiece with a raised port and this can help, particularly in cases where the bit is too thick for her mouth as it will give her tongue a little more room. Sorry if I am going over old ground x
 
Has the excitability always been there for as long as you have owned your mare? or just in the last month or so? have you changed fields or started using different hay etc you mentioned that you have changed her feed and has helped a little so yes I'd try a supplement for a short while to see if this helps, as there is less magnesium in the grass at this time of the year which is why some horses are effected more than others. Even depending on what your fields are treated in can also have an effect on the nutritional value of the grass, as some fertilisers contain magnesium which is good for the grazing land, but not generally used on land grown for haylage.

Equimins Serenity at £26.99 (or there about) will last a small/medium size horse a month and contains magnesium along with the other important B vitamins which work hand in hand with the magnesium, one as one benefits the other, I'm using this at the moment and have seen a difference in his temperament and energy levels, however I was already feeding a low sugar/slow release energy feed before he went a bit doo lally on the new grass, so its been fair test.

Its works and I certainly would recommend it.
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hi, her teeth are checked every 6 months and are fine, she gets checked over regulary by the vets and is not in pain, she has been excitable since i got her, she has been in ths same field since i got her, nothing has changed at all, shes just been excitable all the time, they donnt have grass at this time of year cuz we keep the grass fields fro good they just have haedge but there is no dif in her when shes on grass to on hayledge, i cannot chnage her onto hay or that cuz they gte 1 big bale in teh field, i cant seperate her cuz there in the field with teh massive shelter and when she is seperated she just gallops about and ruins the fields,
when she gets her teeth done its done by a gag and the man who does it does them very well spends ages doing her and making sure its all good, whats a raised port bit? ive never heard of anything like that? her bit is quite thin so i ont hink its going to be to thick, but i can see where your coming from by saying there might not be enough room for her tongue because she has got a small mouth, probebly down to her breed.

i think i will get my mum to order some of tht stuff when we have kinda came to an agreement on here lol

thanxs so far
Alex
 
In my opinion, which calmer works for your horse is trial and error. I tried NupaFeed and Equilibrium and they did nothing (both for at least a month each) - now trying Global Herbs SuperCalm and seems to be going great so far. Don't give up.
 
i wont give up lol, i think im gona try the Equine Americas Magnitude, but i wan to here what people say about the bit aswell? and would a crackle nose band help at all? where is the best place to get teh Equine Americas Magnitude ?

thanxs
 
I looked about and found it cheapest at derby house - postage might change that tho?

I would be wary of putting a grackle on as it may ust hide the problem. There is no harm in trying several different bits as this may stop the problem. I tried 23 diferent bits on my old horse (much to everybody's disgust) but eventually I found one he was happy in the mouth, I was in control, and no strapping his mouth shut or heavy handedness was required. It may be as simple as the thickness of the mouth piece or the number of joints in the mouthpiece.
 
hey
i will post the link to the stuff to make sure its the right stuff before i get my mum to buy it

she just has a normal lose ring snaffle with the plain joint, its about just over 1cm think in the thickest part id say, shes had very thin straight bars to happy mouths being the thickest, what would u suggest? i dont need anything stronger

oh and good news today i rode her and she was so good
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mby the nice weather making her in a gd moad lol
 
its difficult without knowing the horse - but quite often a double joint works , its less likely for the oints to push up into the roof of the mouth and some horses are quite sensitive to this. Unless she backs off thinner is normally better, and trial and error may be best between eggbutt or loose ring - its very dependant on the horse as to which makes them steadier in the mouth.

hope this helps a bit!
 
well she prefers the loose ring, how much is this bit? my mum and dad buys all th ehorse stuff cuz am only 15 so its hard having to rely on them lol
 
If you have only ever tried a single jointed bit then try a french link. Your local tack shop will have them for under £15. They have less of a nutcracker action which many Horses dislike. Lozenge links (particularly the rotated ones like the KK) although double jointed put a bit more pressure on the tongue than a french link, and are generally more expensive. French links come in all the cheekpiece options, including loose ring. I'd go down this route before resorting to a grackle etc.

Calmers. Well, there are some cheap alternatives. I used to use epsom salts (a form of magnesium) on my last Horse. It helped him a lot, and a big tub cost about £4 in the feed shop. I did try some of the expensive ones but this worked just as well. He was very nervous and this helped to keep him a bit less so. I have also heard some people having success with chamomile tea (make a cup and add to feed) and you get 20 bags for about £1 in the supermarket!
 
hi, the bits i have tried are a metal straight bar, she came with that, loose ring,french link snaffle, 4happy mouths and the loose ring normal joint snaffle

she is best in teh normal loose ring, she nods her head quite a bit but in this she doesnt, so dont think she likes the frence link. she has always stuck her tongue out so its a problem shes had for i dont know how long, but it needs to get sorted
 
it was just because people have said it was cheapest of derby house and i couldnt find it on the derby house website

i will just order it from the site u posted
any other suggestions on teh bit?
 
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