Which Co2 canisters fit Point 2 air jackets???

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Hi,
Does anyone know the size (in grams) of the Co2 canisters that go in Point 2's??
I think we (the equestrian world) are being royally ripped off for the canisters, let alone the jackets! However, want to source cheaper canisters than the ones from Point 2 and their retailers!
Im sure the gun canisters or motocross ones would fit our jackets, however cleverly Point2 dont seem 2 have written anywhere the gram-age of the capsules?!
Any help would be great.
Im thinking they might be 12 or 16 grams, but havent confirmed this!
Thanks
 
I was looking at this a while ago and I think if you look on the P2 canister it tells you - or if not the size in grammes there is other information relating to the specification. I agree it does seem absurdly expensive and I have found other canisters on the internet (for paintballing iirc) that do look to be the same and are considerably cheaper. However, it is a risk as P2 will obviously not confirm (to be fair, I haven't asked them - but why would they!) whether they are the same and not being an expert in this field, I concluded it was just too much of a risk.

I believe it is claimed that the reason the cannisters are so expensive (was told by a hit air sales person) is that it is incredibly expensive to bring them here from China due to them being classified as explosives. Whether or not this is so, I have no idea.
 
Oh lordy, if these work will someone post on here? I am currently being banned from wearing the new P2 on the youngster as my mother thinks I will fall off and it will be expensive! I've told her this is bad logic - surely if i fall of she wants me protected (hence the point of the P2 in the first place?!?) but she has said when I stop having ''silly falls'' I will be allowed because she doesnt want to pay £20 for me falling off each time! Crazy mothers!! You would think as a 20-something I would have a bit more say but no... still gotta listen to the mother :rolleyes:
 
P2 themselves do not manufacture the canisters, just the jackets. Therefore it makes sense that thses canisters will be available elsewhere. After all the canister manufacturer won't have all the special equipment just to make a particular size for a small niche market (P2).

I bet the P2 canister is a standard stock item that has been relabelled.
 
You could always weigh a full one and a empty one this should in theory give you the size this being the difference.
 
Just jumping in on this thread as well. I see a lot of talk about people trying these, but has anyone had any positive result with alternative CO2 cylinders yet?

I tend to crash quite a bit :D

As I am on the mainland, it is hard to get anything shipped out to me for testing, but I know at least 1 person that uses alternative cannisters (and resells them!) but I haven't been able to figure out which they are.
 
OK :)


DO NOT TEST NON POINT 2 CANNISTERS IN A POINT 2 JACKET!


I have already done it for you :)

There are lots of cheap cannisters which completely fit the specification which comes with the jacket. In spite of that, they have a thicker seal on them than the Point 2 cannister seal and the hammer fails to break the seal. Instead, it breaks the trigger mechanism.

Point 2 need to amend their spec on the jacket tag if they have not already.
 
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ps they are definitely stock cylinders relabelled but I can't identify which ones. If anyone knows, please let us know because Point 2 cartridges are a rip-off and Hit-Air are even worse!
 
Optimist said:
I believe it is claimed that the reason the cannisters are so expensive (was told by a hit air sales person) is that it is incredibly expensive to bring them here from China due to them being classified as explosives. Whether or not this is so, I have no idea.
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The explosive bit is true but it does not explain how companies manage to import them so much cheaper for fizzy drink dispensers and tyre inflation machines :p
 
Bah, posted a whole reply and then lost it.

Thanks for replying Santa Paws.

As for them being labeled explosive, this is true. I recently brought a few on an airplane though and looked into it. A few transported with the vest itself was okay, though some airlines can complain about that, but a whole box would be a problem, apparently. No idea why as the whole plane is full of them, as the lifejackets they supply have CO2 canisters in them as well.

As for the stock cylinders, I know for certain that there is a type that works, as I just bought a few of someone, but I don't know what type they are. There are a lot of people using this type though, and they haven't failed yet. I'll check if I can find any markings when I get them.

As for the trigger mechanism thingie breaking... how does that happen, as it is all rather mechanical. It's just a springloaded hammer, isn't it?

As for the Airjacket... took a nosedive the very first time I wore it (ditches are scaaaaary! ;) ) and it was one of the most pleasurable falls I've had in a lock time. Only downside being that the horse trotted off and I was too marshmallow-manny to run after him. Luckily he never wanders far ;)
 
The hammer doesn't break the seal but the pressure of the spring has to go somewhere and it cracked the plastic casing holding the cannister and trigger in :eek: It fitted Point 2's spec 100% but it still broke it :(

Please please please tell us where to get the ones that work as soon as you can, they are SO outrageously overpriced :o I am all for people making a profit but £3 to £17 for a thinner seal?
 
Oh, that sounds like bad construction imho.

Anyway, if the canisters have a branding on them I will let you know, but I have a faint feeling they will be unmarked. They're still coming out at 12 quid each for me... but they're over 20 to buy here normally!
 
It is! If you look at the current trigger mechanism it has been strengthened, which is why I felt quite entitled to send it back and have it fixed (that and the cannister meeting the spec too).

Anyone who has a P2 where the thick piece of plastic on the trigger mechanism does not extend from the bottom right up to and over the hole where the cord goes, send it back and get a new one put on, it is not strong enough.
 
Im looking at my AJ trying to figure out what you mean, but I seem to be lacking imagination today ;)

Any comparison pictures to point out what you mean?
 
Look on the website at the video of replacing a cannister. You will see that on the more recent ones, the thicker piece of the trigger holder extends from the bottom until it is up past the little round hole. On the older ones, the thicker piece starts at the bottom and stops before the little round hole. Compare the video with your jacket and it will either look the same or not. If not, then I would ask for a new one.
 
I got my replacement cannistes, which unfortunately don't have any distinguishable markings, other than "Made in Hungary" on them. I suspect they're the Liss ones.

Did do some research locally though and found 88g Crosman or Umarex canisters for air rifles that should fit. May give that a whirl.
 
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