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How does this rate for a dry food?

Potato 35% , duck meal 28% , peas , beet pulp , poultry fat , brewers yeast, whole linseed


protein 26%

oil 12%

fibre 4%

ash 10%

Any thoughts, i know its not RAW but ???????
 
katielou said:
Not something I.would feed.

You want a named meat.meal as the.first ingredient.
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So a lot of manufacturers just split the none meat between two or more ingredients to manipulate the position on the label.
If this product had 27% potato with oats as the sixth ingredient the named meat would be the first ingredient.
 
s4sugar said:
So a lot of manufacturers just split the none meat between two or more ingredients to manipulate the position on the label.
If this product had 27% potato with oats as the sixth ingredient the named meat would be the first ingredient.
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The named meat is before cooking complete with all its water. So actually the meat once cooked would be even further down the list than it already is. That is why you want a named meat meal.
 
I feed raw, and from what I've learnt the protein is about 15%.

When I fed kibble, the lowest I could find was 19%.

A dog behaviourist told me she finds alot of dogs brought to her for control issues are on a high % kibble.

E numbers aside - my house isn't big or sturdy enough to contain my two, jacked up on 26%;)
 
I can understand that :)

When mine was little i had the issue that he was hyperactive and skinny at the same time, tried to find a food that put weight on and didn't send him bonkers but in the end it just comes down to time. He is 3 now and has filled out and calmed down but he gets lots of exercise
 
With kibble the effective percentage levels can be halved (addition of water).
Tinned food typical has 7 -9% protein declared.

I see a lot of behaviourist reports on dogs coming ion to breed rescue. Most of them are total hogwash with the behaviorists not knowing the breeds or their suject -a prime example being the "oversexed" Staffie.
This dog was castrated at 8 months but rehomed because he kept popping out his penis and had seen vets & behaviourists.
None of them had looked at the dog & realised that due to his conformation there was nowhere hidden for this lads equipment if he sat back as Staffies do.
We find high protein only leads to over active dogs if they lack exercise and/or stimulation. Food colourings give symptoms more like ADHD.
 
s4sugar said:
This dog was castrated at 8 months but rehomed because he kept popping out his penis and had seen vets & behaviourists.
None of them had looked at the dog & realised that due to his conformation there was nowhere hidden for this lads equipment if he sat back as Staffies do.
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That's really sad :( off topic I know :o

My older male had part of his sheath removed at a young age, if people don't want to look at it, they don't have to!!! Probably the last reason I would think of for rehoming a dog.
 
Which reminds me of one Ronnie Kray,a mini bull terrier..his identical brother was called Reggie,obviously. His mother Dido kept her puppies very clean and tidy..and in her tidying had nipped of the end of his sheath.He too could only ever sit with his winkie poking out. I called him Badlesmere Bar Mitzvah!!
 
s4sugar said:
With kibble the effective percentage levels can be halved (addition of water).
Tinned food typical has 7 -9% protein declared.

I see a lot of behaviourist reports on dogs coming ion to breed rescue. Most of them are total hogwash with the behaviorists not knowing the breeds or their suject -a prime example being the "oversexed" Staffie.
This dog was castrated at 8 months but rehomed because he kept popping out his penis and had seen vets & behaviourists.
None of them had looked at the dog & realised that due to his conformation there was nowhere hidden for this lads equipment if he sat back as Staffies do.
We find high protein only leads to over active dogs if they lack exercise and/or stimulation. Food colourings give symptoms more like ADHD.
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Umm Dexie will show his to anyone.... at anytime.....
 
lexiedhb said:
Umm Dexie will show his to anyone.... at anytime.....
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As will Dylan. It happens when ever he is excited, for what ever reason! Mainly when food is involved (he is a lab after all), so meal times, but also sometimes just when he gets a treat :-} Also if he's playing with friends or a toy, or when he is being towel dried.

Bless, typical man really.

However, it never turns into anything other than getting it out, so I fail to see a problem with it. Have I missed something? Is this a sign of some deep rooted, unwanted action?
 
Oberon said:
I feed raw, and from what I've learnt the protein is about 15%.

When I fed kibble, the lowest I could find was 19%.

A dog behaviourist told me she finds alot of dogs brought to her for control issues are on a high % kibble.

E numbers aside - my house isn't big or sturdy enough to contain my two, jacked up on 26%;)
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The usual protein for a raw diet comes out around 30%.
But the difference being you are feeding an awful lot of water with it to help the kidneys out with kibble you are not.
 
Oberon said:
How come they are calmer on the Raw then?
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Because its generally not the protein that is the issue. It may be the way the protein is available or presented but its usually grains, e-numbers etc.

That along with the fact that with a raw diet you are washing the protein through with all that water where as kibble it takes much longer to be digested.
 
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