Whispering Willows and Alternative sanctuary

[Violet]

Alternative Animal Sanctuary - Tamara Lloyd
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/sanctuary-owner-claims-isnt-blame-3717664

 

[ester]

No but she had horses from tamara before the last raid. It's tamara that the court judgement thingy on who was keeping them was about.

 

[Elf On A Shelf]

Alternative Animal Sanctuary - Tamara Lloyd
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/sanctuary-owner-claims-isnt-blame-3717664

So in other words she wants to skip out of the country before the courts can ban her from keeping animals and then gather more animals somewhere else?

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

What a desperate and sad situation.

 

[exracehorse]

This isn’t Whispering Willows...??

Looks like another sanctuary

 

[ester]

Looks like another sanctuary

They have connections though that is the point.

 

[exracehorse]

They have connections though that is the point.

Didn’t realise they were connected. But, where has Sandra gone ? Heard nothing for months and the truth about WW group has closed.

 

[Velcrobum]

Has anyone any further news about Whispering Willows / Sandra???

Another rescue owner prosecuted: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-51462437

 

[popcorn1]

Probably got away with it hasn't she. All her merry followers have stopped running their mouths off on here. Disgusting that it was allowed to happen and shocking that horse people fell for it!

 

[dorsetladette]

Probably got away with it hasn't she. All her merry followers have stopped running their mouths off on here. Disgusting that it was allowed to happen and shocking that horse people fell for it!

I saw a weird 'live' she recorded the other day that someone had shared. I can't find it now but she had some sort of filter on which made her look weird. I couldn't listen to it at the time as I wasn't in a place I could turn the volume up. I'd forgotten about it to be honest until this thread popped back up.

 

[AmyMay]

Probably got away with it hasn't she. All her merry followers have stopped running their mouths off on here. Disgusting that it was allowed to happen and shocking that horse people fell for it!

Cases take months (often years) to come to court, so it’s absolutely not the case that she’s got away with anything. The cogs of the judiciary turn very slowly.

 

[Zero00000]

Sandra Stolp was in court this morning, and the update on facebook says -

ANNOUNCEMENT
SANDRA STOLP.RECEIVED A 10 YEAR BAN WITH NO RIGHT TO APPEAL. ON TAG FOR 20 WEEKS CANNOT LEAVE HER HOUSE BETWEEN 9PM AND 6AM.
£1000 FINE
£80 court costs.

 

[Tiddlypom]

What were the charges?

 

[Chinchilla]

Is that ALL she got ?

 

[Lipglosspukka]

A ten year ban is okay. A lifetime ban would have been better. She isn't exactly young is she so hopefully by the time that ten years is up she will be incapable of keeping animals for one reason or another.

 

[Zero00000]

The only reference I have seen for charges was a post on facebook and may very well be inaccurate but it says theft of Bunny (the collapsed mare in Cardiff City centre) and neglect.

I agree with is that ALL she got!

 

[Zero00000]

She already has horses on her land, under other people's names she had them within months of those poor animals being seized.

 

[Zero00000]

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/...&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=wales_swansea

 

[Archangel]

I am literally screaming at the computer

"There has not been a deliberate act to this offending, but something where she lost control in the circumstances."
"This is a case of well intentioned but incompetent care."
""She had good intentions to set up Whispering Willows but got out of her depth."

130 horses. Lost control? Well intentioned? Out of her depth?

FFS.

What we all know. Feeding this sort of desperate situation are owners desperate to offload horses who they can no longer keep, too old, too knackered, too mad to ride. The relief of finding a place that will take them means they drop their horses off, and they can walk away with their problem solved. For the horse it could just be beginning.

Any sanctuary that can take a horse at the drop of a hat needs looking at very closely and then again very, very, closely.
Any decent place has the brakes firmly on and ask owners to explore all other options, including euthanasia, before horses go on the wait list or just turn people away.

I'm screaming again...

The 54-year-old had set up the rescue centre to follow her dream of looking after horses after inheriting a six-figure sum, rescuing or taking in 137 of them, varying in breed and age.

Follow her dream? FFS. 54? FFS x 100

 

[Quigleyandme]

Those pictures are horrific. Whatever her intentions she has allowed enormous and prolonged suffering and that is unforgivable.

 

[Ambers Echo]

Shes getting horse after horse after horse. Refers to them as her babies as if they are her personal pets and is doing all this on rented land with no security. The foals are turned out in someones garden. The lack of basic horse care and knowledge is horrific. Help has been offered from a reputable rescue and the response from the "sanctuary" and supporters is horrific, but its an interesting insight into how their minds work admittedly.

Once you've been around horses and/or rescues for a while you know how this goes. This woman will keep shipping horses in and then out as fast as she can, relying on donations from supporters to fund it all. Eventually she will either over extend herself and an actual rescue will have to go in an clean up the mess, or she will slip up with her sub standard care and an actual rescue will have to go in and clean up them mess. It always ends the same.

Well this was depressingly accurate.

 

[honetpot]

She sounds like a very good con artist, with a good lawyer. As she has no assets, probably no income, we will be picking up the bills, and she will devise another con to get money out of another vulnerable group.

 

[ycbm]

It really isn't like the RSPCA to mount such a weak and incompetent prosecution, I'd like to know the full story of why their lawyer didn't push for a harder penalty
.

 

[Lipglosspukka]

She's a manipulative witch. Probably fed everyone another pack of lies saying she's suicidal or something.

 

[ester]

It really isn't like the RSPCA to mount such a weak and incompetent prosecution, I'd like to know the full story of why their lawyer didn't push for a harder penalty
.

That's what I thought, they are usually quite keen to suggest that things are deliberate when they have actually lost control/are not coping.

 

[Kaylum]

Isn't that the standard sentence for animal cruelty and reason why people are asking for harsher sentences for first time offences.

 

[ycbm]

Isn't that the standard sentence for animal cruelty and reason why people are asking for harsher sentences for first time offences.

No, not at all. She could have got a very long period of unpaid work, a much longer and more onerous tagged curfew, a very big fine, or prison, suspended or otherwise.

It's a pathetic sentence.

 

[Mule]

Is there any regulation on animal sanctuaries or can anyone set one up? I think they may attract animal hoarders.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Is there any regulation on animal sanctuaries or can anyone set one up? I think they may attract animal hoarders.

Good point.

Is there any downside to an equine rescue becoming a member of NEWC? A rescue which is not a member of NEWC was getting very aerated yesterday on FB about this, and its supporters were piling in to say how well run it was, etc.

TAKE NOTE!
This sanctuary may not be a NEWC member but we run to high selfregulation and care standards. This sanctuary is no Whispering Willows. I find the implied suggestion, in a report out today, insulting that if a sanctuary is not part of NEWC then they are no good. Not true

 

[Kaylum]

Is there any regulation on animal sanctuaries or can anyone set one up? I think they may attract animal hoarders.

No only voluntary if they join NEWC