Whispering Willows and Alternative sanctuary

[rascal]

as incompetent as they appear to be, surely everything would be dead if they were doing this

That was my thinking, but do not know the woman or her helpers or how much horse knowledge they have. Would like to go and see, but not sure if they are open to the public.
The person also said the ponies were struggling to eat the food.

 

[Kaylum]

Their bio security is shocking and they need to get a quarantine policy in place or the ringworm will never be controlled.

Hopefully they have a future plan and have reserves. Also you have to make the place safe for the public and have the correct insurance. Personally I think the place has got too big too fast. Just needs to slow down look at the improvements and to be honest with the correct equine management it probably could succeed. Perhaps get some advice from some people who have succeeded with doing this.

 

[dree]

They’ve said they believe the pony is safe so my guess is they’ve arranged for it to be “stolen” by another rescue, rather than hand it over to the RSPCA.

 

[dree]

They've "arranged" for it to be stolen??? You do realise that this is a public forum and that is slander?

 

[dree]

Anyone who runs a 'horse sanctuary' with that long/clean blingy nails still in tack makes me suspicious...

If that's all you have to be suspicious about, then all is well.

 

[dree]

Their bio security is shocking and they need to get a quarantine policy in place or the ringworm will never be controlled.

Hopefully they have a future plan and have reserves. Also you have to make the place safe for the public and have the correct insurance. Personally I think the place has got too big too fast. Just needs to slow down look at the improvements and to be honest with the correct equine management it probably could succeed. Perhaps get some advice from some people who have succeeded with doing this.

 

[dree]

They do have insurance, they have taken on umpteen foals that were literally thrown away, and have brought them all on. What other rescue would do that, or could do that? They are now looking for homes for these foals, which would certainly have died, as they were only about a week old when they took them all. I've followed them for a while, and they dare to go where no-one else will. Yet everyone slags them off.

 

[dree]

That was my thinking, but do not know the woman or her helpers or how much horse knowledge they have. Would like to go and see, but not sure if they are open to the public.
The person also said the ponies were struggling to eat the food.

 

[Leo Walker]

They do have insurance, they have taken on umpteen foals that were literally thrown away, and have brought them all on. What other rescue would do that, or could do that? They are now looking for homes for these foals, which would certainly have died, as they were only about a week old when they took them all. I've followed them for a while, and they dare to go where no-one else will. Yet everyone slags them off.

And now they are flogging them ungelded for £200 a pop, down from £250 as there was no interest.

 

[dree]

Who said the ponies were struggling to eat? That's rubbish!! Go on to their site and have a look for yourself. And, yes, they are open to the public. But with people going on to their land and letting horses loose, you would need to contact them first.

 

[dree]

And now they are flogging them ungelded for £200 a pop, down from £250 as there was no interest.

What??? Where did you get that from?? You do realise that someone has stolen pics of the foals and has set up a false profile and is trying to scam people out of money? NO WAY are these foals being sold to anyone!!! Stop repeating things that are NOT true.

 

[dree]

though I might have got my names beginning with S confused I think!

Today they appear to be breeding too.

Breeding? Where do you get this rubbish from??

 

[dree]

I'm not sure how to feel about them. They appear very gung-ho and seem to think that the good intent of their actions places them above the law.
I mean, if some randomer claiming to be a rescue turned up and nabbed your well looked after horses, it would be theft. Surely it's the same thing in the case of neglected horses, hence why we have to go through the proper legal channels in order to legally seize them?

I can appreciate the good intentions, nobody wants to see horses being neglected. But the laws are there for a reason.

The laws are an ass. They're not working. RSPCA "watching" horses......yep, watching them die.

 

[ycbm]

It's always nice to welcome a new joiner to the forum, dree. You've clearly joined in order to defend this 'Rescue Centre', could you give us some information as to your connection to it so that we can judge how independent your view is?
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[stormox]

I think Dree is the same family as Chocolate Moonbeam.

 

[Peter7917]

They've "arranged" for it to be stolen??? You do realise that this is a public forum and that is slander?

Someone doesn't understand slander....

 

[dree]

I think Dree is the same family as Chocolate Moonbeam.

No idea what you're talking about.

 

[meleeka]

Someone doesn't understand slander....

Especially as the comment which hasn’t all been quoted started with “My guess is....

I think what’s really obvious with WWS (and. AHAR before them) is that they attract a certain type of supporter, some of which we are seeing on this thread. 🤔

 

[dree]

Someone doesn't understand slander....[/QUOTE

 

[dree]

Lies, whatever. You know what I mean.

 

[Leo Walker]

Or how to use the quote function, and they simply cannot put all the information in one post, something else all the ferverent WW supporters seem to have in common.

And no I'm not referring to todays ad, this has been going on for ages. All the foals have homes and the homes have been home checked soon went to the foals dont have homes, please pay us and you can take away a sickly looking, very young colt and do with it what you see fit.

 

[Leo Walker]

Lies, whatever. You know what I mean.

no one has the faintest idea what you are going on about, so no I dont know what you mean. But please, please, please call me a hater. You know you want to!

 

[dree]

It's always nice to welcome a new joiner to the forum, dree. You've clearly joined in order to defend this 'Rescue Centre', could you give us some information as to your connection to it so that we can judge how independent your view is?
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No connection. I've watched them since they got involved with Gary.....the abused gypsy pony. I've seen horses fill out. I've seen foals rescued and brought on....just days old. You guys do that sort of thing? Yes, Sandra is bolshie, but she gets things done.....for the horses.....and that's what I care about.

 

[dree]

Or how to use the quote function, and they simply cannot put all the information in one post, something else all the ferverent WW supporters seem to have in common.

And no I'm not referring to todays ad, this has been going on for ages. All the foals have homes and the homes have been home checked soon went to the foals dont have homes, please pay us and you can take away a sickly looking, very young colt and do with it what you see fit.

 

[dree]

No connection. I've watched them since they got involved with Gary.....the abused gypsy pony. I've seen horses fill out. I've seen foals rescued and brought on....just days old. You guys do that sort of thing? Yes, Sandra is bolshie, but she gets things done.....for the horses.....and that's what I care about.

 

[meleeka]

No connection. I've watched them since they got involved with Gary.....the abused gypsy pony. I've seen horses fill out. I've seen foals rescued and brought on....just days old. You guys do that sort of thing? Yes, Sandra is bolshie, but she gets things done.....for the horses.....and that's what I care about.

Presumably you’ve visited and “seen” all this?

P.s. When you quote you can then click underneath the quote in the same box and type your reply 😀

 

[dree]

No connection. I've watched them since they got involved with Gary.....the abused gypsy pony. I've seen horses fill out. I've seen foals rescued and brought on....just days old. You guys do that sort of thing? Yes, Sandra is bolshie, but she gets things done.....for the horses.....and that's what I care about.

 

[dree]

It's a long time since I've been on a forum, so I apologise if it makes life so very difficult for you. Unfortunately, I haven't been, but I know I would be welcome.....as are you. I'm in a wheelchair at the mo, so life is just a tad difficult. (And that is not for sympathy....just fact.)

 

[Peter7917]

No connection. I've watched them since they got involved with Gary.....the abused gypsy pony. I've seen horses fill out. I've seen foals rescued and brought on....just days old. You guys do that sort of thing? Yes, Sandra is bolshie, but she gets things done.....for the horses.....and that's what I care about.

Foals brought on? I've seen no evidence of this at all.

A rescue would be passporting, microchipping, gelding, halter breaking and doing some basic handling; picking up feet, teaching to be tied up etc. Along with this I would expect a rescue to be worming and possibly even vaccinating.

I would expect home checks, a rehoming fee which is justified by all of the above.

These foals have been chucked in a field and had little else done with them. I've seen no evidence to prove otherwise.

 

[meleeka]

It's a long time since I've been on a forum, so I apologise if it makes life so very difficult for you. Unfortunately, I haven't been, but I know I would be welcome.....as are you. I'm in a wheelchair at the mo, so life is just a tad difficult. (And that is not for sympathy....just fact.)

I follow a couple of sanctuaries on FB. They posts updates when there’s something to tell and none of them do ‘lives’ which are generally about the haters and how horrible they are. They don’t delete people for asking perfectly reasonable questions and they only take in what they can afford to properly care for or rehabilitate.

Perhaps as you are such a fan you could answer my question which is where did the foals actually come from?