White dots on udders

Oops! :o Lol!

I've never come across a mare with a phantom pregnancy but although rare it seems it does happen from time to time in some mares.

So if you've had her since she was a baby then this bag is a newly developed bag and is exuding real fluid which under normal circumstances would imply that she is most likely pregnant. Really though unless you test her then I think you're going to be in the dark for a while to come or until further developments occur, or don't as the case may be.
 
My mare has white spots on her udders at this time of year (has at the moment) whether or not she is in foal.... BUT only since she has had a foal! (or perhaps I never noticed before, as udder obscession is a disease you tend to develop when you start breeding :D)

However, if you look at the evidence:

- She ran with a stallion at the end of last summer...
- She has the beginning of a bag
- You can squeeze fluid out of her udders relatively easily
- She came out of winter looking "ridiculously well"
- you have had her since she was a yearling and KNOW she was never in foal
- therefore she is a maiden AND a young horse, so there is no guarantee she would show until the last month or so anyway....

It could be a phantom pregnancy but the balance of probabilities is... she is in foal.

If it were me, I would get the vet to scan, palpate, blood test... whatever, establish the facts!

Good luck x
 
Ayla84 said:
ummm Ayla`s got these and has been nowhere near a stallion :confused:
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Thanks!! Good to know if she's not in foal she's not the only one who has had these!! Phew, thought she might be a little freak :)

My friend (a stud owner) has just been round to poke her, and started off same as me saying, nope doesn't look in foal, she had a squeeze, out came more clear liquid, and added that she does have some bagging up type stuff going on in front of her udder too, but she has had this since she came home from stallion.

The more we looked the more we talked ourselves into thinking there might be something there (phantom or real), most likely not due from 16th July covering, but perhaps a last min cover in Sept? Poppy is rather long backed and tubular so there is space to hide a foal in quite easily, and from certain angles there does seem to be foal type lumps!!

So you are all right, I do need to get a vet to scan, blood test, or wee foal test her, am pleased am not the only one who thinks something might be going on thanks to you guys and my friend all asuring me than am not going mad!

In my heart of hearts don't really think she is pregnant, but am concerned the CL is still hanging round hence the lack of seasons/possible phantom pregnancy which of course needs sorting out before my newly slim (we're getting there!) pony goes back for another try!
 
A friend of mine bought a mare over this morning for scanning, she is a grade one connemara mare that she purchased in ireland to cover with her connie stallion . She was skeletal when she bought her at the end of the year and is only just picking up now, she is still very slimline. Vendor said she was not in foal. However she has not shown in season at all yet despite regular teasing and in fact eventually turned out with said stallion. The vet did a rectal initially to palpate her uterus and yep, she is in foal. He reckons she is around eight months gone but you would never have said so from looking at her physique. I have seen the grey white spots often on both barren and in foal mares .
 
Marchell, is your friend happy about the buy one get one free foal? Am guessing so if she has been out with the stallion again :D

And to prove I am not mad here are some pics from today showing lack of in foal looking like pony!

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Boobs

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Side view v sunny day so she has no head

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....and one of her head, as she is sad that people only look at her fatness, not admire her pretty face :D

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No she is very unchuffed about it. The vendor told her she was empty . She purchased her to cover this spring with her own very nice Connie. The only one the vendor had capable of covering her , though he says he didnt was a very very hairy small coloured cob colt, not a type she likes at all !
 
OP, those are NOT a young, maiden, empty mare's udders... As for the belly, difficult to say either way. Just get your vet to stick his arm up her bum and you'll know for certain!
 
sorry can't help with the white dot thing but reading about common for vets to miss things on scans isn't inspiring me with confidence!! My mare has her first, 20 day scan nxt week & i'm keeping EVERYTHNG crossed for her!! Please b a positive result!! :-)
 
GinnieRedwings said:
OP, those are NOT a young, maiden, empty mare's udders... As for the belly, difficult to say either way. Just get your vet to stick his arm up her bum and you'll know for certain!
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Yep Ginnie, hand up the bum I think it has to be!! She is not super young, she is 8 but most definately a maiden. Wish the boob obsession didn't start with in foal mares, is hard to remember what non in foal mares boobs look like :D

chestnutmarelover, good luck for your scan :) , most of the time the scans are read rightly, is just a handful of cases that are missed. I would also say go with your gut, a mare that was covered the same day as my other mare was scanned at day 35 not in foal, and vet advised to PG, but her owner knew her mare and knew she was acting 'in foal' so didn't PG her. Result, never came back into season and healthy filly foal born the week before my foal :D

Marchell, miss read your post and though mare came over with the stallion, hence thinking the mare was covered by that stallion and that owner would be pleased :( . Hopefully the foal will be someones cup of tea & she can find it a nice home :)
 
**UPDATE**

Poppy had a hand up the bum today and...no little foal, also she has ws scanned too and good news, she IS cycling, was getting v worried that the CL that was there in Sept was still hanging round and messing things up :D

She will be packing up her tooth brush in a couple of weeks to go back up to the stallion, hopefully this year she will get the idea and there will be no more butt-scooting behaviour!!

Finger crossed for Poppy to have a proper foal in her tum this time next year, no more of these little phantom fellas :D
 
Thanks :D yes I feel loads better now, deep down I knew she wasn't in foal, so was imagining all kinds of problems that could be stopping her cycling!!

She's going to Rainbow Warrior, he's who my foal this year is by too, hopefully this one will be coloured, but will be a lovely small hunter type what ever colour it pops out :D

As long as she actually lets the boy do his job this time...... :rolleyes:
 
Same practice different vet, didn't want the same one as last time, but at least this vet was interested in seeing what was going on with the poor confused pony!

My fave vet (not the one who did either visit) has left the practice and am trying to find a new fave vet amoungst the ones left! Makes a real difference having a vet you trust doesn't it? :)
 
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