White line disease - causes/ treatment

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Does this look like white line disease? Horse was trimmed on Friday and farrier didn't mention it. Has that typical smell you get when something is not quite right with hooves. How would you go about treating? What would be the usual causes of something like this?

Nb it's not my horse and the trim has made the issue much more obvious. Before it was clear there was a bit of a hole there but not the extent. Makes me wonder if something worked it's way in through a small hole then caused damage that wasn't visible to the eye?
 

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I've always been able to clear it with 3% hydrogen peroxide. It's caused by bugs that don't breed in oxygen, and HP delivers masses of oxygen once it contacts the hoof, which is why it fizzes. Cheap as chips as well, you can by 12% from eBay, water it down with another three times it's own volume.

That's a very big hole for white line disease, of be thinking more along the lines of an old abscess that has reached the bottom instead of breaking out further up. It could be either, and the treatment is the same.
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Faracat said:
Is this the hoof he is lame on?

I am going to try cleantrax (recommended on this forum) with my mare when it arrives and I think that I would try it with this horse too. Has the owner talked to a vet about the lameness (if this is the horse I'm thinking of)?

https://www.equinepodiatrysupplies.co.uk/product/cleantrax/
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I don't think she's a big believer in vets! Fortunately he's been sound for over a week now so I've started riding him again and owner has agreed to a trial period to check he stays sound. I think the cause of the lameness may have revealed itself though! (It was this hoof)
 
ycbm said:
I've always been able to clear it with 3% hydrogen peroxide. It's caused by bugs that don't breed in oxygen, and HP delivers masses of oxygen once it contacts the hoof, which is why it fizzes. Cheap as chips as well, you can by 12% from eBay, water it down with another three times it's own volume.

That's a very big hole for white line disease, of be thinking more along the lines of an old abscess that has reached the bottom instead of breaking out further up. It could be either, and the treatment is the same.
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Abscess would make sense as he was lame on it. Seems fine now and hacked out yesterday on a fairly stony track without blinking (impressive bearing in mind he was trimmed friday). I'll get some hydrogen peroxide and give it a blast with that I think. Thanks for the advice all!
 
paddy555 said:
I would get the hole properly trimmed and syringe in peroxide 2 or 3 times a week.
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I'd be on twice daily for a week and once a day until it's clear that connected laminae have reached the floor and the white line is gluing the foot closed again. I'd also plug the hole with cotton wool to stop dirt grinding itself up there. I'd probably wet that with more peroxide.

HR it must be unlikely the lameness was caused by anything else, given the timing. I'm pleased it's an easy answer to why it happened and that you should be able to go ahead and get him vetted and bought soon : )

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ycbm said:
I'd be on twice daily for a week and once a day until it's clear that connected laminae have reached the floor and the white line is gluing the foot closed again. I'd also plug the hole with cotton wool to stop dirt grinding itself up there. I'd probably wet that with more peroxide.



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I used to do that until I had a bad case, in my case caused by an accident, but pretty similar to this. I was lucky to have the support of a brilliant BF farrier who cut the wall far further up than I would have dared to and advised to treat peroxide 2/3 times a week. (cleaning out daily of course) That worked a lot more effectively than my previously endless peroxide and cotton wool regime.
 
It does often have to be cut right out, I think. I haven't dared take Muffin's toe back to where it ends, I've just got my fingers crossed I've gone far enough. I need a farrier and a she to stabilise the foot of not. I have to stress, before I'm accused of doing dangerous things, that he is perfectly sound on it and we've just had a lovely barefoot, no boots, hack in the beautiful autumn sunshine.


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ycbm said:
It does often have to be cut right out, I think. I haven't dared take Muffin's toe back to where it ends, I've just got my fingers crossed I've gone far enough. I need a farrier and a she to stabilise the foot of not. I have to stress, before I'm accused of doing dangerous things, that he is perfectly sound on it and we've just had a lovely barefoot, no boots, hack in the beautiful autumn sunshine.


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I didn't unfortunately take a pic of mine when it was cut out but the horse was perfectly sound and it caused him no problem at all. I've taken the toe (different horse) back in the way you are doing a fair way and again no soundness problems. In that case I was advised to keep taking it back every couple of days and that worked very well. I am just very lucky to have the farrier up the road. :D
 
My horse had a similar hole a while back and I treated it with cleantrax and then afterwards I packed the hole with Hoof Stuff which I changed every few days. It was all a bit of a faff but it did grow out without any further issues. I'd probably try the hydrogen peroxide first because it's easier if it works but I was very impressed with the cleantrax if that doesn't work.
 
i had one with this and the white line was stretched, its when the line is stretched something can get in, it was very crumbly, i dug it out cleantrax it booted when muddy, put the horse on seaweed and kept the flair to the absolute minimum, sometimes over trimming a bit at the sides where it was stretched, the horse now has lovely hard feet tight white lines, no shoes, the feet look very different to before, and barefoot on the hardest surface no problem
 
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