White van man rant - help me write a letter!

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I had a bit of an argument with a white van man yesterday when he hurled abuse at me because I dared to ask him to slow down as he tanked towards me on a very narrow lane at about 30mph. The stupid bloke though was in a van with his company's name (local building firm) emblazoned all over it so I'm going to write to the local paper. Anybody want to CC my letter?

Dear local paper

May I reassure the driver of the van from Inside Out Property Maintenance that, despite the assumption he made during his rant towards me, my horse IS fully insured. He is correct that horses do not pay road fund licence, but he is mistaken if he believes that road tax is spent on roads, particularly local authority maintained roads. It goes directly to the Treasury whereas local roads are maintained by local authorities and paid for by council tax - which I pay just I am sure he does. Regardless of the tax issue, the simple fact is that horses (along with cyclists and pedestrians) have every right to be on the roads.

My 'crime' to deserve this rant was to ask him politely, with the correct hand signals as designated by the highway code, to slow down as he approached a friend and me on our very well behaved horses on a particularly narrow section of the lanes in St Andrews Major at considerable speed. His defence was that he had just rounded a blind bend at 30mph as that was the speed limit and saw us late (although even when he did see us he made no attepmt to slow down). Both riders and horses were wearing high visibilty clothing. May I suggest to him that, regardless of the speed limit, he should drive at a speed at which he can stop in the distance he can see. He was lucky that it was horses he encountered as we take up less of the road, had he met a car he would have been responsible for a head on collision.

He was clearly in a hurry as the five seconds that slowing down for us would have added to his journey was obviously too much. Why then did he stop for at least a minute to hurl abuse at me and question my right to be on the road?

I agree that in a perfect world horses wouldn't have to be ridden on roads. I would much rather ride off road but as we have a limited number of bridleways in the area, we have no choice. That, however, is a separate argument.

I have been riding around these roads for 20 years and the vast majority of drivers are considerate, reponsible and courteous, particularly those who drive larger vehicles and are aware that horses may be scared by them. I would like to thank those drivers and let them know their consideration is always appreciated. As ever, it is the irresponsible few who spoil things for the rest of us.

As for Mr "Inside Out" I can only hope for your customers' sakes that your attitude to your work is not the same disrespectful, arrogant one that you display towards your fellow road users.

Feel free to chop and change it!
 
Very good! Well done for keeping it very professional rather than pointing out to them in no uncertain terms what a prat they employ!
 
I would be tempted to move the penultimate paragraph ("I have been riding around...) to the top, to indicate that this is not a rant against all drivers and to explain what this is all about. Might make the whole thing a lot shorter as people have short attention spans and may not get to the end.
 
I thought about writing to the company but I think he is the owner as it's not a very big firm. Have to do some digging to find out first.
 
Love it! would also agree with ringing up the company and hasseling them aswell!
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Don't block capital anything, this never looks good in a letter otherwise seems good enough to me.
 
You should complain to the police, as you have two witnesses, he can be reprimanded for road rage. We have a local policeman who is very hot on this sort of thing. You should also contact the company, although it sounds like it might be a one-man band, and therefore a pointless gesture.
 
Good letter --try to shorten yourself though as newspaper may do do before printing
writing to the company a good idea
I complained a long time ago to the Police about a tractor and slurry tanker who almost put me through the hedge--the Police suggested he stopped using that particularly narrow road (a short cut) peace afterwards!
 
My friend and I rather than my friend and me.

But good letter!

Report him to the police too - they can go and "have a word"
 
You can send it to the newspaper but I am guessing that they wont print it (or if they did, any mention of the company name would be removed) - they would be too worried about being sued.

Your best bet would be to write to the company and complain directly, or contact the police.
 
My only comment, grammatical, 2nd paragraph 2nd line (on my screen anyway).
"A friend and I", rather than "A friend and me"

Good luck and let us know how you get on!
 
good idea to write to company aswell as the paper!
dont shoot me but im a van driver ok delivering shopping but im still one of those! the only difference is i no to slow down and how to act round horses in the van most of them dont understand that a horse can bolt in a blink of an eye!
 
I would also complain to the police. I did once after a speeding driver nearly hit me straight up the back of my lad out hacking. he swerved across the road and ended up in a hedge. The police however then said he had told them I jumped off my horse like a lunatic and ran across the road hurling abuse at him. ( ok I did swear a bit and throw my arms in the air) and he was frightened by this mad horserider woman but he WAS cautioned for careless driving. Would of been a whole different story if he had hit me. (police rang me a month later to say he had written his car off round a lampost) Obviously didn't learn. But def report him to the police. Tossers aren't they
 
Best course of action would be for both of you to go to the local police station and report the incident. Ask for an incident number so that it is logged in to the system. With a bit of luck they will tag the registration number and also determine who was driving it and tag the driver's dvla record so that next time either the vehicle or driver are involved in an incident the details of this incident will come up.
 
I have rejigged slightly and shortened. On the grammatical point, "my friend and me" is correct. If the friend was removed from the sentence it would read "as he approached me" if it were "my friend and I" it would read "as he approached I". I frequently edit stuff for my job and know this is right!

I have been riding on the roads around Dinas Powys for 20 years and the vast majority of drivers are considerate, responsible and courteous, particularly those who drive larger vehicles and are aware that horses may be scared by them. I would like to thank those drivers and let them know their consideration is always appreciated. However, my encounter with the driver of a transit van owned by Inside Out Property Maintenance has forced me to write this letter.
May I reassure the driver that despite the assumption he made during his rant towards me, my horse IS fully insured. He is correct that horse owners do not pay road fund licence, but regardless of this, the simple fact is that horses (along with cyclists and pedestrians) have every right to be on the roads.
My 'crime' to deserve this rant was to ask him politely, with the correct hand signals as designated by the highway code, to slow down as he approached a friend and me on a particularly narrow section of the lanes in St Andrews Major at considerable speed. His defence was that he had just rounded a blind bend at 30mph, as that was the speed limit, and saw us late (although even when he did see us he made no attempt to slow down). Both riders and horses were wearing high visibility clothing, the horses are very well behaved in traffic and luckily they did not react. He was lucky that it was horses he encountered as we take up less of the road, had he met a car he would have been responsible for a head on collision.
He was clearly in a hurry as the five seconds that slowing down for us would have added to his journey was obviously too much. Why then did he stop for at least a minute to hurl abuse at me and question my right to be on the road?
Mr "Inside Out", I can only hope for your customers' sakes that your attitude to your work is not the same disrespectful, arrogant one that you display towards your fellow road users. Next time you choose to drive so irresponsibly and then abuse anybody who politely asks you to slow down, maybe you should consider your company’s reputation before doing so in a van emblazoned with its name.
 
My first thought was although the letter is good if it is for the letters page in the local paper it is too long for print and they may edit the bits you particularly want to keep.

Also its coming across as personal and that you are angry ( which you are ) but I would stick to the lines of ' I wish motorists would be more considerate of other road users' as a heading and then outline your experience primarily to get across the message that inconsiderate road users can cause injury / death when dealing with horses.

The reading public are not going to want to read the minutiae of your specific detailed experience I don't think and if it was me I condense it a bit sticking to the facts and key points.

Just MO though
 
Are you writing to the Barry Gem? There's been a fair old debate on the letters page about riders on the beach lately
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The roads in Dinas are a nightmare, there've been so many traffic-related accidents & near-misses on the lanes & by the common in the last few years. We now hack really early to try & miss the worst of the traffic
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Like your letter, hope it gets printed!
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1. Take out the words "arrogant and disrepectful" and "Mr Inside Out", let the reader make up their own mind - in fact leave the last sentence out altogether.
2. Shorten the letter
3. Move the "I have been riding..." paragraph to the top.
4. Use a different more objective word than "rant".
5. Shorten the second paragraph (it's so boring people will stop reading - lol)

.....and finally:

6. Report the incident to the police - they are very good with issues such as this - and WILL follow up.

Hth's
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Yup - and the Barry and District news, Penarth Times (although they're pretty much the same paper these days) and the Echo. Googled the firm and they seem to be Cardiff based so I thought uit might be worth trying the Echo.

Where are you based? PM me if you like, am having some thoughts about campaigning to get those roads made safer.
 
Shorter version again. 272 words - local paper limit is 300 according to website. Tried to sound less angry.
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I have been riding horses on the roads around Dinas Powys for 20 years and the vast majority of drivers are considerate, responsible and courteous, particularly those who drive larger vehicles and are aware that horses may be scared by them. I would like to thank those drivers and let them know their consideration is always appreciated.

However, my encounter with the driver of a transit van owned by Inside Out Property Maintenance has forced me to write this letter. May I reassure the driver that despite the assumption he made during his rant towards me, my horse is fully insured and has (along with cyclists and pedestrians) every right to be on the roads.

My 'crime' to deserve this rant was to ask him politely, with the correct hand signals as designated by the highway code, to slow down as he approached a friend and me on a particularly narrow section of the lanes in St Andrews Major at considerable speed. Both riders and horses were wearing high visibility clothing, the horses are very well behaved in traffic and luckily they did not react. However horses are unpredictable and others may not have been so tolerant.

He was clearly in a hurry as the five seconds that slowing down for us would have added to his journey was obviously too much. Why then did he stop for at least a minute to hurl abuse at me and question my right to be on the road? I can only hope for his customers' sakes that his attitude towards his work is not the same one that he displays towards fellow road users.
 
Great. This road rage is frightening, whatever some drivers think of horse riders I wish they'd bear in mind that, unlike cars, we don't dent - we die.
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I like it, but they will take the name of the company out, as they could face legal action. I'd say you had more chance of them printing your letter if you leave out the company name. I know that is what you want spread about, but a newspaper just wouldn't do it.
 
The paper can edit the name out if they are concerned about it, but as this is a letter from you and recounts a factual event rather than expressing opinions they may be able to print it.
 
Maybe you're right. I'll take that out and add this at the end of the second para.

"Moreover, should he choose to vent his anger at perfectly law abiding people in future maybe he would be best advised not to do it from a van with his company's name on the side. I certainly will not be recommending his company to anybody I know and will be writing to his managers."
 
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