pegasus1986
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if you dont poo pick how do you manage your fields??
who doesnt poo pick?
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Doris68
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I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
milliepops
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We don't poo pick at my livery yard - the fields are enormous and they each have several horses in. We do have sheep to cross graze though. I worm count my horse and am always pleasantly surprised by the results.
SpottedCat
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I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
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Nonsense. If you chain harrow a) the birds pick off the worms and b) they die from exposure. Plus if the horse doesn't have a worm burden to start with, and neither does the pasture, then you're pretty safe I'd say.
I used to poo pick but new yard chain harrows and that is fine by me. My worm count is always <50epg - no eggs found - so we must be doing something right.
I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
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Nonsense. If you chain harrow a) the birds pick off the worms and b) they die from exposure. Plus if the horse doesn't have a worm burden to start with, and neither does the pasture, then you're pretty safe I'd say.
I used to poo pick but new yard chain harrows and that is fine by me. My worm count is always <50epg - no eggs found - so we must be doing something right.
MillionDollar
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Well I think it does depend on the size of the field. When I have my horses in 5-10 acre fields they are chain harrowed. But the liveries in the 1 acre paddocks (individual turnout) have to poo pick once a week as they'd be no grass left within a few weeks otherwise. We also have sheep grazing the land too.........they make a huge difference.
My horses are currently in 1 1/2 acre paddocks and I poo pick them with my poo vacuum........only takes 2 hours per week for 7 horses! Best thing I've ever bought
My horses are currently in 1 1/2 acre paddocks and I poo pick them with my poo vacuum........only takes 2 hours per week for 7 horses! Best thing I've ever bought
TGM
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A lot depends on individual circumstances. As some have already said, on large areas of grazing with a lot of horses poo-picking isn't really practical. Another factor to consider is that if you are at a livery yard with frequent influxes of new horses then poo-picking is probably more necessary to reduce worms than if you have you have an established herd on a sensible worming/worm count programme with no new incomers.
I remember reading somewhere about the speed with which worms migrate from the droppings onto the surrounding grass - I'm sure it was something like 6 hours. So poo picking once or twice a week won't make much difference to the worm burden although it might help prevent 'roughs' in the pasture!
I remember reading somewhere about the speed with which worms migrate from the droppings onto the surrounding grass - I'm sure it was something like 6 hours. So poo picking once or twice a week won't make much difference to the worm burden although it might help prevent 'roughs' in the pasture!
martlin
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I don't poo pick, I have triple rotation of grazing cattle/horses/sheep, fields are also chain harrowed and rolled, and of course rested.
I don't poo pick, I have triple rotation of grazing cattle/horses/sheep, fields are also chain harrowed and rolled, and of course rested.
marmalade76
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I don't poo pick, I have triple rotation of grazing cattle/horses/sheep, fields are also chain harrowed and rolled, and of course rested.
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Same here.
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I don't poo pick, I have triple rotation of grazing cattle/horses/sheep, fields are also chain harrowed and rolled, and of course rested.
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Same here.
PapaFrita
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I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
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As I understand it, this is incorrect (I did believe as you do until quite recently though) wormers KILL worms and the poo picking is apparently for the benefit of a) the grass as horses don't like the thick lush-looking grass where poo has been and b) to avoid the chemicals in wormers leaching into the soil as their effect on grass plantlife is not completely understood.
I used to poo pick twice a day in the UK, but don't anymore. We have no grass and horses go out individually, if at all so no point.
I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
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As I understand it, this is incorrect (I did believe as you do until quite recently though) wormers KILL worms and the poo picking is apparently for the benefit of a) the grass as horses don't like the thick lush-looking grass where poo has been and b) to avoid the chemicals in wormers leaching into the soil as their effect on grass plantlife is not completely understood.
I used to poo pick twice a day in the UK, but don't anymore. We have no grass and horses go out individually, if at all so no point.
Enfys
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I only pick from the shelters, the round pens, and the small individual paddocks, and that is purely because of aesthetics. My smaller paddocks are visible from the road and the house, I just don't like them looking untidy.
Bigger fields are harrowed etc, I'm blowed if I am traipsing around fields picking up muck, even with a quad and trailer.
Bigger fields are harrowed etc, I'm blowed if I am traipsing around fields picking up muck, even with a quad and trailer.
pegasus1986
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how many horses do all have if u dont poo pick?
Lollii
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I don't poo pick our larger fields, I have 8 horses to look after, there is no way I am poo picking that lot on my own!
I harrow once or twice a week, the wormers do their job, I worm all the horses 4 times a year and keep them in for 24hrs after worming & I worm count once a year, they are always ok.
I harrow once or twice a week, the wormers do their job, I worm all the horses 4 times a year and keep them in for 24hrs after worming & I worm count once a year, they are always ok.
JANANI
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I have 6 horses with 12 acres and I dont poo pick as I couldn't be bothered and I don't have time. My oldest horse is 30 and he has no ill effects.
When we first got the land we did and we stopped after three weeks.
We rotate our fields and they are topped after they are grazed.
When we first got the land we did and we stopped after three weeks.
We rotate our fields and they are topped after they are grazed.
pegasus1986
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i have 4 horses and work 12 hour shifts so not much time to myself and wen i do get time off i wanna spend it wiv riding, grooming etc not poo picking.
how often shuld i rotate the fields i have 12 acres in 3 fields and how often shuld i harrow
Shazzababs
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I don't but I do top and chain harrow the fields once a month when they are being grazed. They get also 4 months off due to the rotation.
I spent most of my childhood being forced to poo pick, and there was no way I was spending anymore time doing it when I got to my own place.
I have no problems with worms.
I spent most of my childhood being forced to poo pick, and there was no way I was spending anymore time doing it when I got to my own place.
I have no problems with worms.
Lollii
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i have 4 horses and work 12 hour shifts so not much time to myself and wen i do get time off i wanna spend it wiv riding, grooming etc not poo picking.
how often shuld i rotate the fields i have 12 acres in 3 fields and how often shuld i harrow
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I only rotate the fields in the summer when we have enough grass, we move the horses once a week or so.
In the winter we don't rotate as we save our back fields, the grass gets trashed with mud but it always comes back in the summer when rested again.
i have 4 horses and work 12 hour shifts so not much time to myself and wen i do get time off i wanna spend it wiv riding, grooming etc not poo picking.
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I only rotate the fields in the summer when we have enough grass, we move the horses once a week or so.
In the winter we don't rotate as we save our back fields, the grass gets trashed with mud but it always comes back in the summer when rested again.
Ashgrove
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I have 1 horse and 1 pony, I don't poo pick, they graze in large fields with cattle and sheep, I know they are fairly worm free.
AmyMay
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I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
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That is not correct.
We don't poo pick our fields. They're simply too large. Horses are rotated with other livestock every 6 weeks or so. The fields are harrowed and rolled.
I poo pic twice a day. I am sorry, but if you don't poo pick and just spread it around, all you are doing is spreading the worm burden!
I am not, however, suggesting that this is what you do.
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That is not correct.
We don't poo pick our fields. They're simply too large. Horses are rotated with other livestock every 6 weeks or so. The fields are harrowed and rolled.
Enfys
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how many horses do all have if u dont poo pick?
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2 in individual paddocks, 6 in the mare herd, 6 Boarders.
how many horses do all have if u dont poo pick?
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2 in individual paddocks, 6 in the mare herd, 6 Boarders.
Rollin
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When I had only three horses I poo-picked every day, now I have 11 I don't.
I have 30 acres + in 10 paddocks so I can rotate and rest. Usually three in use at any one time. We top grazing fields and rotate hay fields. This year it has been too hot to move them off summer paddocks but it has been so hot the poo desicates in days.
I also hoover some patches with ride on lawn mower and use this for my vedgetable garden.
I have 30 acres + in 10 paddocks so I can rotate and rest. Usually three in use at any one time. We top grazing fields and rotate hay fields. This year it has been too hot to move them off summer paddocks but it has been so hot the poo desicates in days.
I also hoover some patches with ride on lawn mower and use this for my vedgetable garden.
Lollii
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I also hoover some patches with ride on lawn mower and use this for my vedgetable garden.
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Can you hoover up poo with a ride on mower??
**wonders off to the mower to give it a go!!**
I also hoover some patches with ride on lawn mower and use this for my vedgetable garden.
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Can you hoover up poo with a ride on mower??
**wonders off to the mower to give it a go!!**
Toby_Zaphod
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Nonsense. If you chain harrow a) the birds pick off the worms and b) they die from exposure. Plus if the horse doesn't have a worm burden to start with, and neither does the pasture, then you're pretty safe I'd say
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Harrowing will only work if you are in a hot climate & the heat from the sun will dry out the worms/eggs in the droppings. In this country we don't have hot enough weather for this to work. As any vet & they will tell you.
Some may use wormers as a matter of course, we prefer to worm count & only put chemicals into the horse if it is necessary.
Nonsense. If you chain harrow a) the birds pick off the worms and b) they die from exposure. Plus if the horse doesn't have a worm burden to start with, and neither does the pasture, then you're pretty safe I'd say
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Some may use wormers as a matter of course, we prefer to worm count & only put chemicals into the horse if it is necessary.
AmyMay
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What even though we were hotter than some parts of the continent this summer??
Toby_Zaphod
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What even if we were hotter than some parts of the continent this summer
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We are only occasionally hotter, majority of the time we certainly are not. If we were do you think the farmers would have been worried about getting the hay & crops in this year?
What even if we were hotter than some parts of the continent this summer
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We are only occasionally hotter, majority of the time we certainly are not. If we were do you think the farmers would have been worried about getting the hay & crops in this year?
AmyMay
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I said warmer - not dryer........
Theresa_F
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If I had the luxury of large fields that I could harrow and rotate and maybe graze with sheep, then I would not.
Unfortunately I am doomed to have two huge sh*tting beasts in a paddock of about 1 1/2 acres which means I now not only having to poo pick most days as they do at least 1 1/2 barrows a day between them, but have to put out nearly a bale a day of hay as the grass is non-existant in the summer field.
I envy you with no poo picking and lots of grass soooo much
Unfortunately I am doomed to have two huge sh*tting beasts in a paddock of about 1 1/2 acres which means I now not only having to poo pick most days as they do at least 1 1/2 barrows a day between them, but have to put out nearly a bale a day of hay as the grass is non-existant in the summer field.
I envy you with no poo picking and lots of grass soooo much
Lollii
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Harrowing will only work if you are in a hot climate & the heat from the sun will dry out the worms/eggs in the droppings. In this country we don't have hot enough weather for this to work. As any vet & they will tell you.
Some may use wormers as a matter of course, we prefer to worm count & only put chemicals into the horse if it is necessary.
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As I said - our horses are worm counted and we have never poo picked I harrow the fields weekly, there has never been a worm problem in any of the horses. Poo picking is over rated!
Some may use wormers as a matter of course, we prefer to worm count & only put chemicals into the horse if it is necessary.
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As I said - our horses are worm counted and we have never poo picked I harrow the fields weekly, there has never been a worm problem in any of the horses. Poo picking is over rated!
catembi
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I don't poo pick. My 2 live at home & I have an ISH & an old mare on 2.5 acres. When we first moved here, I tried to poo pick but I couldn't keep on top of it. Now we harrow twice a week, weather permitting. My last worm count was zero - no worms seen.
We've joined the local tack shop's worming prog so we get reminders to worm / get a worm count, & lady said my 2 are 'low risk' cos it's just them by themselves.
We've joined the local tack shop's worming prog so we get reminders to worm / get a worm count, & lady said my 2 are 'low risk' cos it's just them by themselves.
charlie76
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We have 250 acres and over 80 horses. We rest, roll and harrow our fields.
Jericho
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Do you rotate the field at all?
Does the poo break down really quickly once harrowed? I have visions of the whole field just being littered with small bits of poo... Am on the verge of buying a small chain harrow as want to try this way rather than poo picking every day but really want to understand what happens to the poo once harrowed?
Does the poo break down really quickly once harrowed? I have visions of the whole field just being littered with small bits of poo... Am on the verge of buying a small chain harrow as want to try this way rather than poo picking every day but really want to understand what happens to the poo once harrowed?