Why are people against scent drag hunting?

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I understand why people would be against actual hunting (just as I am), but why are some people against hunting where it's just the scent dragged across a course? I love the idea of going out with a group, galloping, jumping with dogs etc..
 
Is there anything about it to be against? Just a good fast ride in the country over a planned track with groomed fences. You know where you are going, bit like a group ride really, in fact, just like a group ride.

Did it once, almost expired from boredom, it didn't ring my bell at all.
 
Never seen antis at the draghunts I went to....... but some fox hunts say theyr chasing the drag to comply with the law, are seen laying the trail, then the hounds run riot ;)
 
Ignorance op... people see abunch off people dressed up on horses and jump to conclusions... when you explain to them what actually happens very people have a problem with it, expect hardcore peta people who believe in all sorts...
 
I find that the people who talk about 'toffs in red coats on horseback' have a problem with it because however much they say it's not a class thing, to them it certainly is. I ride with a bloodhound pack so we hunt the 'clean boot' - but during a facebook discussion once a woman said that she refused to reply to anything I'd written because she 'would never negotiate with a hunter'. I explained (yet again) what our hunt involves but she said that it was all a front and we were actually bloodthirsty mercenaries. After several people backed me up, she said that it should all be banned because 'there's a chance that one of the bloodhounds might come across a poor innocent fox and savage it'. I suggested that perhaps we should ban driving too because there's a much greater chance that a driver could hit a fox and kill it (we've actually seen a fox when we've been out with the bloodhounds but the hounds are much too focused on their job to take any notice).
Anyway, she ended up going back to the 'bunch of toffs who get dressed up to ride around like they own the place.' That was, essentially, her problem - and unfortunately the way others see it.
 
Rolocookiepepsi said:
I understand why people would be against actual hunting (just as I am), but why are some people against hunting where it's just the scent dragged across a course? I love the idea of going out with a group, galloping, jumping with dogs etc..
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I would not go real hunting as the idea of killing a fox upsets me. Drag hunting I been on and it is great fun. I see no problem with
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because somehow or other they still end up land that they shouldn't, upsetting pets, horses, farm animals, shoots and wildlife.
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They ride ride a set course
I fail to see how they upset pets ( cats and dogs ) are kept with owners or within their boundary and houses nearby are told of the hunt
I cannot see farmhouse animals get upset by horses galloping by any more upsetting than a sponsored ride going past.
shoots?? I fail to see how this is effected
Wildlife / no more than a sponsored ride would.
 
Mainly I think because they seem to think that it is only a matter of time before they are back to killing foxes. Or they think that when out of sight they are killing foxes, or they are haters, just got to hate. I have never fox hunted, never wanted to and it holds no interest for me. I personally agree with the ban, however I respect other peoples opinion and I think that is the problem, so many people don't and assume that behind the scene its all still going on.
There are of course people out there who have totally missed the whole idea of the ban and get worked up about blood hound packs. There was one stupid person doing her nut on a post about blood hounds and simply didn't get it that the dogs had NEVER hunted foxes and that they only hunted people.

Maybe that is your answer........some people are STUPID!
 
I think its because of the basis of it, its based on the idea of hunting isn't it? So I guess people don't like that. I'm against hunting, but I'd probably drag hunt but only if it had nothing to do with real hunting. Like surely they use the same dogs they use for the real hunting? So I wouldn't like that as the drag hunting would be supporting the real stuff.

I could see how it would upset pets and livestock. I would not be impressed if a heap of horses galloped past my place - luckily, we dont have hunting up here so it would never happen!
 
Our local hunt which is following a drag is plagued by 'monitors' wearing IRA balaclavas, filming children, shouting abuse, and generally being unpleasant. Who appointed these monitors, to what organisation are they answerable? And since when is it acceptable to film young children, follow cars, film cars and take photos of car numbers etc etc etc.
I don't hunt, but friends do. There will always be some hot head follower who gets wound up, or a hot head hound who gets on the wrong scent. It's usually sorted out very quickly.
If I walked through parliament square dressed as a 'monitor' filming I wonder how long before a SWAT team was on the case!
 
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I think its because of the basis of it, its based on the idea of hunting isn't it? So I guess people don't like that. I'm against hunting, but I'd probably drag hunt but only if it had nothing to do with real hunting. Like surely they use the same dogs they use for the real hunting? So I wouldn't like that as the drag hunting would be supporting the real stuff.

I could see how it would upset pets and livestock. I would not be impressed if a heap of horses galloped past my place - luckily, we dont have hunting up here so it would never happen!
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Of course it is based on hunting, but hounds are trained to follow a scent, whether that is a human running in front, or something on a rag dragged in front of the pack and they follow the scent (hence "drag hounds"). I'm afraid it is all down to the toffs on horses which is the real objection. I remember trying to negotiate a route to link up a bridlepath over some farmer's land and he would have nothing to do with us as he didn't approve of hunting.
 
There are plenty of people who are against drag hunting, hunt sabs (or "monitors" as they call themselves these days to give themselves a bit of respectability) are a few I could mention.

They think foxes are being secretly killed at drag hunts and they think laying down a scent is just a rouse to give the impression that foxes aren't being hunted.

There are quite a few videos on YouTube of hunt "monitors" harassing people at drag hunts.

The fact is, these people hate people who own horses, they hate horses and hounds too. They think if you enjoy riding a horse through the countryside to hounds then you're an elitist snob. It's never been about animal welfare (sabs have killed hounds and attacked horses, after all), it's always been about class war. What makes me laugh is that there are people who go hunting from all sorts of backgrounds. I was born into a working class family, many people who are/were working class go hunting, but the anti brigade think we're all elitist snobs, born into affluent families who went to Eton and whip slaves in the fields..

It's forever 1916 in the heads of hunt sabs/monitors.
 
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Well I don't hunt, have always competed, but have been haranged twice in a a viscious and foul mouthed way whilst out exercising. The second time I rounded on the woman who was of the opinion all riders hunt, I gave her a piece of my mind and then noticed a police car had stopped to listen, obviously thinking they would be required. I apologised to them and they said they found it amusing as I could obviously stand up for myself , but that she was committing an offence and could be prosecuted for harassing me.
 
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Then either the people who set the course are going on land that they shouldn't or the hounds are not following the scent that they should.
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The drag hunt I went on the hunt had full permission and they asked all the farmers prior to the hunt day, so we had permission to go where we went.
 
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