Why Are People So Damn Rude and Assuming?!

swampdonkey said:
Is it only me and my suspicious mind thats thinking that she deliberately put her mare in with your boys as some kind of half witted scam! Maybe she is after some form of compensation for her 'pregnant' mare!
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Not just you . . . that's exactly where my mind went too.

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I am not in any way blaming you for her behaviour by why on earth did you not just tolerate it but accommodate by going to get passports etc?!

It sounds awful, but I think you need a plan for the next time she comes round because I don't think it will be the last you see of her!!
 
Ditto equi's post. She would have been frog marched off my property along with her horse long before she got to second sentance with an attitude like that.
 
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I think you might want your headcollar back, arrive at the yard and maybe tell her to keep its theft. Very strange women and if the horses keeps 'escaping' maybe she should take better care of her animal. As for the in foal mare... If would be a miracle.... Immaculate conception?
 
Pen said:
No wonder her poor mare tries to escape and hide in another herd. Poor poor horse hate to think what she endures.
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This was my thought. Total nutter.

TBH, if someone's mare jumped IN with my stallions, I don't see how I'd be responsible for any foal that resulted. In fact, there'd be a case for loss of amenity as my boys would be affected by the experience. The trespass was hers!
 
Can see why mare might be trying to escape from her.

Report it on 101 as mentioned, send recorded delivery letter to her that she is banned from any property owned by yourself, and failure to observe this will result in trespass reported to police.

Beyond that have nothing to do with her. It does sound like an easy way to get some money from you, could try and claim for couple of vets visits an abortive jab. Obviously is used to getting her own way by ranting loudly and intimidating others. If she appears again, stand in front of her & ring police telling them you have an aggressive intruder there, which you have. Can't be called a dispute, as you have no dispute with her.
 
redredruby said:
I am not in any way blaming you for her behaviour by why on earth did you not just tolerate it but accommodate by going to get passports etc?!
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Tbh I think that I would've kicked off if I didn't have my kids there, all three of them are 8 or under and very impressionable and I don't want them to see me like that, I'm their parental figure and they've had a lot of shouting in my life so I don't want to bring back anything
 
Trespass is a civil offence but you could get a retraining order (costs a fair bit, you have to go through a solicitor for this civil remedy, plus unless a power of arrest is attached to it, it's pretty worthless). I would have the police round to give her words of caution and let it be known that she's banned from your land. She sounds very unbalanced!
 
If she is as unstable as she sounds I would tread very carefully with this woman and not antagonise her in any way, although I too would want to deck her!
Make the police aware especially if you feel you haven't heard the last from her.
I remember a few years back a similar sounding person made accusations about a fellow liveries horse causing injury to her horse. It was a lady I knew only by sight but her reputation was well known. It was a nightmare, went on for ages and resulted in a court case. Needless to say the innocent lady and her horse were proven innocent but it was a living hell for her.
Just err on the side of caution.
 
charli_ said:
Tbh I think that I would've kicked off if I didn't have my kids there, all three of them are 8 or under and very impressionable and I don't want them to see me like that, I'm their parental figure and they've had a lot of shouting in my life so I don't want to bring back anything
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This made me want to cry . Bless you charli your kids were there and she was a total nutter :(
 
The Polo Bear said:
How does she know mare is pregnant? I doubt its even seen a vet.
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Since this has happened I've found out from my friend the mare is pregnant, but she's clearly too far along for it to be 6 weeks ago. Tbh she was quite podgy when she got in the field, but it was too small of a belly to be obviously pregnancy, I just thought it was a grass belly. But there are no stallions at the livery so the sire is probably a horse from a field the mare jumped into. Silly woman eh!
 
charli_ said:
Sorry all, but I am so annoyed...about 5 or 6 weeks ago I arrived at my building to find not 2, but 3 horses in the field. I called my boys up and they came, with the other horse following. They both seemed quite calm but the mare was distressed, she had a cut (not big, just needed cleaning type of thing) on her leg and she was snorting and trotting up and down the fence line. I managed to calm her down, checked her over carefully, not lame, cleaned her leg and fixed it up etc. There is a livery yard about a quarter of a mile up the road, where my friend keeps her horses and I happen to know that this mare was from there, because I've seen her when I've been helping my friend there. I called my friend, asked her to tell the owner (I don't know the owner) and she said the owner had been looking for her and they would come right away. They got there a few minutes later and the woman was screaming and shouting at me, accusing me of stealing her horse! I told her very calmly that I hadn't stolen her, I'd arrived and she had been in the field already, but she had a small cut on her leg and I had cleaned it up. She then started screaming louder and accusing me of purposefully hurting her horse so that 'she couldn't get away' I told her that I would never do such a thing and that I would never hurt an animal. She then started shouting that I was a liar, over and over again!

While all this was happening my friend was in the building consoling my children, (my two daughters were crying, they don't like shouting) and the mare and my boys were distressed. I told her could she please stop because she was upsetting my horses, my children and her mare and me, and that she can take her mare, I don't want her and I'm sorry that she has hurt her leg, but she will be fine and the woman promptly untied the mare and stormed off up my drive with her! I might also add that she took Wellie's headcollar, nothing of value but still the principle, and left my children me and the boys upset. After a lot of consoling and carrots everyone was okay and me and Em (friend) looked around the field, there was no damage, so we think the mare jumped in over the gate and then the fence. (Too high for my boys but the mare is about 17h).

Anyway managed to forget, and then about 2/3 weeks ago my mums friend was telling me about how a chestnut mare had got into her paddock today (she lives a mile away) and that the owner had come to get it shouting and screaming and taken it back to the livery yard. She said how appalled she was at the woman's attitude and that if one of hers got out then she would be thankful it was safe.

Anyway fast forward to today and I get a call from Em asking me if I'm at the horses. I say yes and she just said 'you're not going to believe this' and the line went off. A few minutes later said woman arrives with Em in tow screaming at me (once again) that she wants money from me because one of my boys has gotten her mare pregnant! I looked at her blankly for a while before telling that she must be mistaken because my boys are both Geldings. Then she is telling me that she doesn't believe me! I'm annoyed because I'm in the middle of something and I now have to go and get my two boys who have been gelded since they were probably 1, and their both in their teens, to show some arrogant woman that they don't have any balls. Reaalllllyyyyy annoyed now.

And then, when I bring them up to the yard and tie them up and the woman starts looking at their 'areas' trying to inspect for balls!!!! And THEN, she starts putting her hand around there to see if she can flipping feel their balls!!! After me telling her over and over that they are certainly both Geldings, she STILL doesn't flipping well believe me!!! She's actually telling me that she wants proof that they're geldings!!!!

So there's me, standing there with my three children staring in shock as a woman feels our beloved pony and horses 'balls' as Em shakes her head and I give her instructions as to where their passports are at my home. Ten minutes later she arrives with the passports and the woman looks at them, checks them over and she looks at me and tells me that these passports must be wrong! I seriously cannot believe her, I am still in shock now that she actually thought that they were Stallions. I then lost it, telling her that they are CLEARLY Geldings, she's already felt for any balls, checked their passports and I told her straight that it would be ridiculous for me to keep them as stallions (even though I bought them as geldings) because they are only used mainly as hackers, they jump and do some shows but that's about it, they aren't used for breeding and I let my three children around them! She then looked at me, dropped the passports, turned around and walked away! I can't believe her! So annoyed that she has verbally abused me, made my horses and children and me upset, taken my head collar and lead rope (again, principle) and could've damaged my horses passports had it been muddy. UGHH!!

Sorry but just needed to rant:( feeling very upset...sorry about the essay!
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That woman has got serious mental health issues!!!
 
Twinkley Lights said:
This made me want to cry . Bless you charli your kids were there and she was a total nutter :(
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My kids are feeling a lot better about it now. They were shaken but have since been on the horses and today I was lunging the Welshie at a canter and my daughter was holding the lunge line (with my help), shouting instructions and he was good as gold for her! She then asked if she could canter Prince, i said yes and we tacked him up and he was so careful with her, she has so far never wanted to canter but she was grinning from ear to ear as they went. Happy days now:)
 
charli_ said:
Tbh I think that I would've kicked off if I didn't have my kids there, all three of them are 8 or under and very impressionable and I don't want them to see me like that, I'm their parental figure and they've had a lot of shouting in my life so I don't want to bring back anything
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Have you got a phone that you could take a video of her with?? I'd be doing this, also writing out a bill for livery and presenting it to her. She sounds like she's trying on a scam, but you need evidence of her threatening behaviour for the police or they won't be interested. You could then get a restraining order against her. You don't need this sort of behaviour near your children, and who's to say that she won't go after them. Or, more extreme, but works well, is to throw a bucket of water over her. She'd have a job proving assault as she would be tresspassing any way, and think of the satisfaction!!!
 
Wow! You must be a saint to have out up with that behaviour. This person sounds delusional and paranoid bordering on mental health issues. Ether that or she is doing it on purpose to try and get money out of people. Something really not right there
 
I'd be VERY interested to know what the YO where she is thinks of her! We had one a bit like this on our yard - briefly- and when she moved onto another place she told everyone there how we beat and abused our horses (most were elderly and very retired!). I heard that within a week she had had a hissy fit at the new YO and the police had to be called to escort her off the premises! I felt very sorry for her two young teenagers as they were nice kids. Lord knows what she was like in other situations.
 
pennyturner said:
This was my thought. Total nutter.

TBH, if someone's mare jumped IN with my stallions, I don't see how I'd be responsible for any foal that resulted. In fact, there'd be a case for loss of amenity as my boys would be affected by the experience. The trespass was hers!
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I'd be charging for a full STI screen if I had a stallion - it could end a breeding career if anything was picked up
 
OH WOW.....well, that certainly livened up my afternoon! It boggle my head that people like that actually exist...I wonder what she is like in other areas of her life? Good god, imagine being her partner! Poor soul they must be.

I agree though that you should report the incidents. If she is just that unhinged and angry she could retaliate. I once pissed a kid off when I was younger........the next morning the field gate was pushed IN and the horses not there....I firmly believe it was retaliation!

She also doesn't get that SHE can be in trouble for her inability to keep her horse in its field!
 
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