Why are some people so dishonest?

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Just spoken on Facebook to a girl I know from an old yard. She was telling me about the horse she has on loan (still at his original home) from a woman currently going through chemo for cancer. She was telling me how she's been jumping this horse 1m45 (which i'm pretty sure isn't true, but there are pics of her jumping smaller on her FB) and how naughty he is when jumping- basically bigging herself up as a rider, saying how much he misbehaves and only she can sort him out :rolleyes:
Then she told me that the woman who owns him (who obviously hasn't been able to ride at all due to chemo, and young children) had asked her not to ever jump him as he is arthritic, and will get over excited (ex-SJer). She said it in a very 'haha aren't I bad' kind of way. I was shocked- if I had been forced to loan out my horse due to severe illness (or for any reason!!) I would HATE to hear that my loanee had been deliberately ignoring what I specifically asked!!- especially as I have seen the vids and pics on FB, and it is not pretty viewing. Although she has been riding a long time and can stick on most things by sheer determination, she is NOT a very capable jumper.
And to top it all- I asked her why she was jumping if he's not meant to due to arthritis; she said 'Oh i dont think he is arthritic, hes stiff afterwards but i just canter till he loosens up' :eek: I've never had an arthritic horse, but surely this is not what you're meant to do?!
Sorry, rant over. Just a bit shocked.
 
My horse is stiff and arthriticy, but he loves jumping and is an old boy: I jump him because he loves it and it keeps him happy. He's not for this world for much longer: I'm happy sacrificing a stiff few hours the next day (if he jumps he gets the day off, and we only really jump at comps over 2'6 courses) for his total enjoyment. Sometimes, you have to think differently.

Fwiw, he's also on bute now as well. Shoot me. He's happy and sound so I don't care.
 
Part of me wants to say get in touch with the owner so she can save the horse, but I think a lot of us who post on here will remember a few situations where people have got involved in something they should have left well alone.

Hopefully if she is exaggerating jumping 1m45 she is also exaggerating the amount of jumping and all the cantering she has to do to loosen him up afterwards.

Can you have a bit more of a stern word with her about the way she is riding the horse (or claiming to ride him)?
 
You say that he is still at his original home - I am therefore assuming that feedback would be given to the owner if she asked for it from YO.

Also at the minute, owner has enough to worry about without the stress of finding a new loan home/lack of money. And as above - as long as it's not too much and horse enjoys it - why not? I have arthritis and ride despite it hurting because it keeps me sane!

Whilst I was away on holiday my friend was looking after my boy. I had owned him for a month. The only rule being that he wasn't jumped - not for medical reasons - mainly because I hadn't jumped him and I wanted to be the first just incase anything happened. Needless to say she jumped him and I haven't asked her to look after him since.

It's not nice but at the minute owner has higher priorities.
 
Lolo said:
My horse is stiff and arthriticy, but he loves jumping and is an old boy: I jump him because he loves it and it keeps him happy. He's not for this world for much longer: I'm happy sacrificing a stiff few hours the next day (if he jumps he gets the day off, and we only really jump at comps over 2'6 courses) for his total enjoyment. Sometimes, you have to think differently.

Fwiw, he's also on bute now as well. Shoot me. He's happy and sound so I don't care.
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Sorry Lolo, maybe I wasn't clear in my OP. I wasn't at all meaning to criticise people who jump athriticy horses (a v good friend has a 17yo who is arthriticy, competes regularly and loves it)- more that I was shocked she's ignoring the owner's rules. No offence intended, sorry.

Roody2- I've never met the owner so not in a position to talk to her- and like LaurenM says I don't think it would help if she was put under more strain to find a new loaner etc.
LaurenM- not sure what the set up re YOs are, but you're probably right. That's sad about your friend. That's what made me :O about this thing- I just don't like people being untrustworthy.
Maybe I'm over reacting. I guess it's none of my business anyway.
 
Ok, sorry. I'm just too touchy over welfare of older horses- often the thing that seems worse is the best (and at 26, I reckon my old man has earnt his right to do what the hell he wants).

I'd just keep quiet. He's ok, she's ok, no one's hurt.
 
Lolo said:
Ok, sorry. I'm just too touchy over welfare of older horses- often the thing that seems worse is the best (and at 26, I reckon my old man has earnt his right to do what the hell he wants).

I'd just keep quiet. He's ok, she's ok, no one's hurt.
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Oh, totally know what you mean about the thing that seems worst being best. He's your horse so you obviously know him best, and it's great that he's still going strong at 26 :) . Like I say, it's just the fact this horse isn't hers and she's misusing the trust of the owner.

I am planning on keeping quiet...don't think me sticking my nose in and probably putting my foot in my mouth too will help :rolleyes:
 
OMG, i have just had more or less the same thing on facebook ! someone telling me they jump 3ft6 courses and then everytime i mentioned it on her wall she would delete it anyway she said she rode this one horse who only she could ride properly and that she was goin to take him to olympia well then asked the owner of the horse who said that this girl jumps 2ft3 at the highest and never has she thought about taking her horse to olympia :( it drives me mad that people have to big themselves up to you :( i would rather them tell me they only jump 2ft rather then lie! Because i too can remember a time when 2ft was quite big and tbh still is!
 
I agree that the owner has bigger fish to fry at the moment, i am sure your friend is exaggerating but I think it is awful that she is going against the owners instructions.
Lolo, i know what you are saying but you own your horse so it is up to you. My 20 year old ex racer is supposed to be arthritic too but nobody seems to have told her that. This girl has been entrusted with the care of this horse due to illness. The least she could do is have some respect for the owners wishes.
 
If I were the owner I would be so angry at her having completely ignored my request not to jump him... I used to ride a mare who I was told was not allowed to jump or trot on roads / hard ground due to rotated pedal bones in front feet and I wouldn't have dreamt of ignoring her owner's instructions - I couldn't have lived with myself if something had happened...
 
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