Kelly1982
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
Why do you hate Warmbloods? Aplogies to Zizz!
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Rambo
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
dieseldog
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I do hate how having a warmblood now seems to be a bit of a fashion accessory though - when spectating at my local equestrian centre it just seems to be big bay/brown wb after one another....
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And why do you think you see one WB after another???
Because they do what they are supposed to do - be nice horses that the average person can have fun on and enjoy.
I do hate how having a warmblood now seems to be a bit of a fashion accessory though - when spectating at my local equestrian centre it just seems to be big bay/brown wb after one another....
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And why do you think you see one WB after another???
Because they do what they are supposed to do - be nice horses that the average person can have fun on and enjoy.
anniedoherty
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That's a good point DieselDog. That's why I think they are popular - because they are uncomplicated horses which move nicely and you can have fun riding. I don't follow fashion because it doesn't interest me in the slightest so the only reason I got an imported KWPN is because he was the right horse for the job.
Scarlett
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tis very true - though I mean more the fact that there is a fashion accessory factor to it, 'everyone else has one so I want one' sort of thing...
at the end of the day if you have a good relationship with your horse and you an it can go do what you want to do and have fun then does it matter what breed it is....? I would have laughed at you if you had told me I would end up with a full tb, yet now I have 2 and no 3 on the way, love em now....
at the end of the day if you have a good relationship with your horse and you an it can go do what you want to do and have fun then does it matter what breed it is....? I would have laughed at you if you had told me I would end up with a full tb, yet now I have 2 and no 3 on the way, love em now....
Kelly1982
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
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Yeah thats what i mean!! Dont get me wrong i do love WB's (Trike is one after all and i wouldn't of brought him otherwise) but i find Mieko and Senza (even though she is not a true WB) alot quicker off the mark than Trike and Lux. It just took them a bit longer to learn things than the girlies.
Saying that though they are both quick enough to learn evasions LOL
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
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Yeah thats what i mean!! Dont get me wrong i do love WB's (Trike is one after all and i wouldn't of brought him otherwise) but i find Mieko and Senza (even though she is not a true WB) alot quicker off the mark than Trike and Lux. It just took them a bit longer to learn things than the girlies.
Saying that though they are both quick enough to learn evasions LOL
Rambo
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
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Yeah thats what i mean!! Dont get me wrong i do love WB's (Trike is one after all and i wouldn't of brought him otherwise) but i find Mieko and Senza (even though she is not a true WB) alot quicker off the mark than Trike and Lux. It just took them a bit longer to learn things than the girlies.
Saying that though they are both quick enough to learn evasions LOL
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LOL!
And you know both Bo and Trike (obviously) and have seen them both go....almost identical bloodlines, yet two more different horses you couldn't find wouldn't you agree !?
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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But Kelly, ALL warmbloods are TBx's...
I think what you are saying is you prefer a higher TB content WB to a lower content
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Yeah thats what i mean!! Dont get me wrong i do love WB's (Trike is one after all and i wouldn't of brought him otherwise) but i find Mieko and Senza (even though she is not a true WB) alot quicker off the mark than Trike and Lux. It just took them a bit longer to learn things than the girlies.
Saying that though they are both quick enough to learn evasions LOL
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LOL!
And you know both Bo and Trike (obviously) and have seen them both go....almost identical bloodlines, yet two more different horses you couldn't find wouldn't you agree !?
PapaFrita
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Antifaz is a WB and most 'ambitious' people aspire to own one here for SJing. These are descended from dutch/german/french lines and really rather pretty. Antifaz is certainly not stupid and very affectionate
I wasn't always quite so fond of him though!!
PapaFrita
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In my experience (very little! of 2 warmbloods in fact!) is that they are VERY destructive!!
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Oh, actually that IS true of Antifaz, although he's much improved from when I first met him!
In my experience (very little! of 2 warmbloods in fact!) is that they are VERY destructive!!
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Oh, actually that IS true of Antifaz, although he's much improved from when I first met him!
Kelly1982
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LOL!
And you know both Bo and Trike (obviously) and have seen them both go....almost identical bloodlines, yet two more different horses you couldn't find wouldn't you agree !?
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Yep that is true, totally different so it just goes to show that you cant tide them all with the same brush (is that the correct saying
) but both the full WB's i have ridden have been a lot slower to pick things up.
Plus i like them crossed with a TB so they are a bit finer!! I think Trike was too much horse for me and needed a man. But saying that Lux isn't too big so wouldn't mind something the same build as him and he is full WB.
And you know both Bo and Trike (obviously) and have seen them both go....almost identical bloodlines, yet two more different horses you couldn't find wouldn't you agree !?
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Yep that is true, totally different so it just goes to show that you cant tide them all with the same brush (is that the correct saying
Plus i like them crossed with a TB so they are a bit finer!! I think Trike was too much horse for me and needed a man. But saying that Lux isn't too big so wouldn't mind something the same build as him and he is full WB.
Doublethyme
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I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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Ummmm I think at times I would prefer to take out my mare's full TB parentage on her dam's side and go with her Danish Warmblood Sire ! She swings between being far too intelligent for her own good and a bit hyper active to being a stubborn lazy mule! Love her though, as when she is good she is a dream.
Not sure if that's her TB or Warmblood side or just her (most likely), as have never had either before. Having said that my Heinz 57 mare (probably Cleveland Bay x Connemara x something else), was the most neurotic stubborn horse I have ever come across!
I think it is unfair that Warmbloods are generalised in any way, the different types of warmblood are so very different anyway and even within one breed, ie Dutch, they come out so very different. Atlhough completely agree with the comments about them being "overbred" for certain traits like the toe flicking false extensions - I hate that and do think that warmbloods are marked higher in dressage often just because they are warmbloods.
I don't think you can generalise any breed too much - obviously there are certain traits, but there are always exceptions too. I have known a couple of gorgeously sensible level headed Arabs, but also some completely stupid flighty ones!
Only breed I have found that is time and again very laid back and maybe a bit stupid (but in a completely loveable way) is Irish Draughts including crosses.
But that's not to say I would never own one if I found one I liked.
I love them but would prefer them to be crossed with a TB as their not as stupid them LOL
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Ummmm I think at times I would prefer to take out my mare's full TB parentage on her dam's side and go with her Danish Warmblood Sire ! She swings between being far too intelligent for her own good and a bit hyper active to being a stubborn lazy mule! Love her though, as when she is good she is a dream.
Not sure if that's her TB or Warmblood side or just her (most likely), as have never had either before. Having said that my Heinz 57 mare (probably Cleveland Bay x Connemara x something else), was the most neurotic stubborn horse I have ever come across!
I think it is unfair that Warmbloods are generalised in any way, the different types of warmblood are so very different anyway and even within one breed, ie Dutch, they come out so very different. Atlhough completely agree with the comments about them being "overbred" for certain traits like the toe flicking false extensions - I hate that and do think that warmbloods are marked higher in dressage often just because they are warmbloods.
I don't think you can generalise any breed too much - obviously there are certain traits, but there are always exceptions too. I have known a couple of gorgeously sensible level headed Arabs, but also some completely stupid flighty ones!
Only breed I have found that is time and again very laid back and maybe a bit stupid (but in a completely loveable way) is Irish Draughts including crosses.
valley
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They are the best I had a dutch warmblood for 23 years he was pts 4 days before christmas wonderful horse would have a go at anything and as safe as houses he wa a bit useless at dressage but had a go. I now have a 9 month old Anglo Arab filly who is proving to be a star find. Its not always the horses fault normally the owners misconseption of intelligent animal be opened minded when choosing a breed. choose one to suit you not to have a fashion label.
Oaksflight
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Personally I like Warmbloods, never had one but the ones I've known have been nice. Only thing I'd worry about if buying one would be health concerns with the inbreeding that occurs quite a bit in WB, however a lot of that occurs in most pure breeds, and I'd rather get a pure WB than a pure TB, as far less health concerns!
Tia
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You can't truly lump all WB's together though - they are all quite individual breeds/types. I love Danish Warmbloods but I am not so keen on Dutch Warmbloods - they are absolutely nothing like each other.
I think that GG has summed the general demeanor of most breeds of WB's though, in that because they are so compliant (usually) they are definitely open to serious abuse and abuse which a lot of them deal with without complaint. This, I believe, is why they picked up the reputation/nickname of being "dumb-bloods".
You also have to remember the way the European WB's are treated in the majority of barns throughout Europe, particularly in Belgium, Holland and Germany, where they rarely see the light of day, spending 22 hours in a stable and the other 2 being made to go over and over movements in the huge arena way down the alleyway in the huge stable-block!
I used to rehabilitate Dutch WB's and my, some of them were very mixed-up little guys and gals. Very sad
. Hate to generalise about the way they are handled over there, but I have no option really as these were the sorts of horses that I personally dealt with; these horses had no comprehension of outside, of grass, of gentleness and even with months of rehab some just never really made it.....too much damage had already been done.
It's only now where I am in a position of owning another similar breed in respects to their demeanor, that I can see that there is something special about WB's and I can totally understand why people have been veered in their direction. They are (stereotypically) very easy horses to ride and they give their owner the illusion of being a far better rider than they are......this in turn often leads to the rider actually becoming a far better rider in the end. So WB's are good and do have their place. I don't think, compared to so many other breeds, that they are particularly intelligent horses.......and this is a major reason why they have been so successful.
I think that GG has summed the general demeanor of most breeds of WB's though, in that because they are so compliant (usually) they are definitely open to serious abuse and abuse which a lot of them deal with without complaint. This, I believe, is why they picked up the reputation/nickname of being "dumb-bloods".
You also have to remember the way the European WB's are treated in the majority of barns throughout Europe, particularly in Belgium, Holland and Germany, where they rarely see the light of day, spending 22 hours in a stable and the other 2 being made to go over and over movements in the huge arena way down the alleyway in the huge stable-block!
I used to rehabilitate Dutch WB's and my, some of them were very mixed-up little guys and gals. Very sad
It's only now where I am in a position of owning another similar breed in respects to their demeanor, that I can see that there is something special about WB's and I can totally understand why people have been veered in their direction. They are (stereotypically) very easy horses to ride and they give their owner the illusion of being a far better rider than they are......this in turn often leads to the rider actually becoming a far better rider in the end. So WB's are good and do have their place. I don't think, compared to so many other breeds, that they are particularly intelligent horses.......and this is a major reason why they have been so successful.