Why I prefer animals to people!

Well if the driver can't see you , I don't think they are at fault. If they are within the speed limit and exercising due care and attention. I've been in that position and only realised someone was there through the rear view mirror, blending into the background. Scared me you know what less.
I applaud your public spiritedness, princess Rosie.
 
It's speed limit not the speed it's safe to drive at while being over the speed limit will increase a drivers culpability being within it does not mean hitting something you don't see is not your fault as a driver .
You are legally required to drive at a safe speed for all the conditions weather, road etc etc, that safe speed may well be a lot slower than the limit .
 
Fully agree GS , hence due care and attention.
Non the less, the driver of the car that killed my friends mate was not charged with anything.
He couldn't see him. Accidents happen. Reduce the probability of accidents. Make yourself visible. Why not?
 
Nutsaboutnags said:
I had a few blind moments with low sun and wet roads today
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amymay said:
Then hi viz wouldn't have made any difference...
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Goldenstar said:
But appropriate speed by drivers will .
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I remain convinced that if the woman and horse that I didn't initially see coming towards me yesterday whilst I was blinded by the sun at a junction, had been wearing good hi viz I would have spotted them seconds earlier. I was genuinely shocked that I didn't see them straight away, they can only have been 25m or so away. I was stationary.

Anything at all to help visibility, helps. I have put an order into V bandz following AA's recent thread. I was an early adopter of a hi viz tabard and then hat band (25 yrs ago), but am going the whole hog now.

I personally would not be offended at all if someone stopped to point out something amiss with my get up. Unless of course, if it was to criticise my taste in matchy matchy, or to ask why on earth my horse wears a Micklem bridle..
 
teabiscuit said:
Fully agree GS , hence due care and attention.
Non the less, the driver of the car that killed my friends mate was not charged with anything.
He couldn't see him. Accidents happen. Reduce the probability of accidents. Make yourself visible. Why not?
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The case for wearing hi viz is a no brainer .
What we are discussing here is OP being angry that another adult she did not know from Adam did not like being stopped and told what to by a total stranger , I simply can't understand why she would be in any way angered by that .
 
Goldenstar said:
The case for wearing hi viz is a no brainer .
What we are discussing here is OP being angry that another adult she did not know from Adam did not like being stopped and told what to by a total stranger , I simply can't understand why she would be in any way angered by that .
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That was the point that I tried to make :)
 
GS the OP said she was polite, I'd hope for politeness back. But personally if someone took offence and was rude to me under the same circumstances, I'd put it down to experience. After all, none of us are perfect :o
 
Tiddlypom said:
I remain convinced that if the woman and horse that I didn't initially see coming towards me yesterday whilst I was blinded by the sun at a junction, had been wearing good hi viz I would have spotted them seconds earlier. I was genuinely shocked that I didn't see them straight away, they can only have been 25m or so away. I was stationary.

Anything at all to help visibility, helps. I have put an order into V bandz following AA's recent thread. I was an early adopter of a hi viz tabard and then hat band (25 yrs ago), but am going the whole hog now.

I personally would not be offended at all if someone stopped to point out something amiss with my get up. Unless of course, if it was to criticise my taste in matchy matchy, or to ask why on earth my horse wears a Micklem bridle..
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My brother is a bit of an expert in this sort of thing and he's pretty clear that hi viz does not work at all well in bright sunshine , I must ask him again but I think he said pinks best in the sun .greens best in cities , orange and yellow pink against countryside and don't wear orange in autumn .
 
Goldenstar said:
My brother is a bit of an expert in this sort of thing and he's pretty clear that hi viz does not work at all well in bright sunshine , I must ask him again but I think he said pinks best in the sun .greens best in cities , orange and yellow pink against countryside and don't wear orange in autumn .
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The colour thing is interesting. I'm getting some orange hi viz to mix and match with my existing yellow. Can't bring myself to wear pink :o. I have reflective stripes but no lights (never go out in the dark).

Tbh, when the sun is so low and dazzling, combined with wet roads and tall trees and hedges, it can be difficult to be seen, full stop. Prob best stay off the roads at those times.
 
Tiddlypom said:
The colour thing is interesting. I'm getting some orange hi viz to mix and match with my existing yellow. Can't bring myself to wear pink :o. I have reflective stripes but no lights (never go out in the dark).

Tbh, when the sun is so low and dazzling, combined with wet roads and tall trees and hedges, it can be difficult to be seen, full stop. Prob best stay off the roads at those times.
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That what I do and I certainly never go through the village where there's the notorious sun spot on a sunny afternoon .
 
Well done you for caring enough to stop and make your point. The silly rider can make choices whether to wear high viz or not. The poor horse has no such choices and is highly likely to be badly injured due to the rider not bothering to protect them both.

As for her comments, well.....
 
MerrySherryRider said:
People who ride without visible clothing are pretty stupid but....

has anyone stopped their car to tell a pedestrian that they should wear hi viz ? They're a real hazard on dark ,wet days, particularly crossing the road.
If you'd stop a horse rider to give unsolicited advice, then surely you'd stop every cyclist and pedestrian too ? Might take quite a while to get to work though.
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I did once. I drive home via very dark country roads to check my horses on the way home from work. I was driving slowly (they are narrow bendy roads) and almost had heart failure when I suddenly spotted a guy and his dog who were walking along the side of the road - dark dog, dark clothes - dog off the leash. I had to hit my brakes when his dog wandered in front of my car. Took me all my strength not to scream at him as I got such a fright but I managed a polite comment that perhaps he and his poor dog should have some reflective gear on when he chooses to walk in in the pitch black in dead of winter along a road with absolutely no lights and no pavement either. He was heading to a parked car too, which had been sat at the side of the road so I have no idea what he was doing there but he was risking his life and his dogs. He did apologise and I have never seen him again but jesus did he give me a scare. I would do it again too. I once gave my friends son absolute pelters for being out on the roads on his bike late at night without a single light or piece of reflecting clothing. He got some for his xmas that year lol. And I would happily tell a rider that I could see them better in hi viz or bright clothes and I dont care if they get offended to be honest - if there is the slightest possibility that I can encourage them to be safer on the roads then its worth it.
 
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We have that around our way too, round some very horrible dark roads. If I so much as have to cross the road I wear high viz and the dogs have little high viz vests made out of mesh so they can still wear them even on a hot summer night.
 
I saw a young woman out on her horse, the other afternoon. No Hi Viz that I could see. She blended in beautifully with the trees and bushes (narrow leafy lane). I also pulled over safely, and spoke with her, I politely advised her that she didn't show up very well, and maybe some hi viz would be good. She replied she had some, stood up in her stirrups and showed me the "Hi Viz" smiley face. sticky label on the cantle of her saddle, and the two on her saddle flaps behind her thighs. She thought this was adequate. Hopefully she thought again.
 
Goldenstar said:
The case for wearing hi viz is a no brainer .
What we are discussing here is OP being angry that another adult she did not know from Adam did not like being stopped and told what to by a total stranger , I simply can't understand why she would be in any way angered by that .
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Who are we saying is angry at this? Yes, the woman I spoke to obviously wasn't pleased but not sure why you repeatedly say that I am angry? I was surprised at her reaction, not angry.
 
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