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when you have completely worked your *rse off and turned your mad and mixed up 4year old into a horse suitable for your daughter to have a go at eventing on....
that your friend just goes out and buys the ready made (by OT) model and wins straight away!!!!!
 
You mark my words...it wont be long before that horse is refusing to jump and/or is broken down!! Just you wait and see!
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i know the feeling! Have slaved away for 2 1/2 years on my horse and he can still be a little sh*t some days, yet people i know who ride like cr*p go out and buy the bin there done it type and win straight away
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I keep telling myself it wont last long. i know someone who brought an intermidiate school master and in a year of her riding it the poor thing was too terrified to jump over 2'9
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These posts always make me laugh.

You all moan about people buying ready made horses and how awful they are - what pot hunters - how unfair it is that they win.

You all then moan about how you can't sell your perfect schoolmaster type/horse that has actually done somethimg.

Why can't you sell it? See above^^^

You can't have it all ways.
 
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So what. If they have the money and want to spend it that way then thats their choice. Given the chance I'm sure you'd do exactly the same.
 
Try doing JRN's then, sections full of Megabucks ex Advanced horses.

We get so much pleasure when the home schooled and produced bog pony beats them, OK doubt she will ever win (which is why we also have a ready made one) but the pleasure when bog pony does well is good enough for us every time.
 
Oh but your day will come, and how satisfying to know it's all your own work.
I get a hell of a thrill out of watching our home breds compete, and can't wait for the latest to win something.
I have no doubt probably with OT on it would have won straight off both times, first time another rider refused to move out of her way on the XC course so she ended up with time faults, next time rider error aimed him at the higher class option!
I think a professional wouldn't have allowed the rider to balk them (can you imagine OT being held up? I can't) and second the horse would have been aimed better.
Ultimately your horse and ours will succeed, and the thrill of doing it yourself mistakes along the way withstanding will make it so much sweeter.
it is annoying when people like your friend buy a ready made horse, but some of them couldn't "make" a horse if they tried, so try and remember that.
It's very easy to compete on an older schoolmaster, a whole different ballgame on an untried four year old..
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I know what it's like, to slave away at your horse and get beaten by a bunch of ex advanced horses...
I bought Tara straight off the hunting field- all she had done was hunt, and was in race training before that. She was blummin hard work, and I am still never going to beat all the posh horses because her neck is built upside down so I can't get her working nicely on the flat
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But it gives you alot of satisfaction when you go double clear and you have to give the horse before you a lead through the water- and then you go home and check the horses BE record to find he had been doing 3*
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Saying that though, I am getting bored of having no chance, so I have decided- if you can't beat 'em, join 'em!
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Agree - it's very satisfying to DIY and spending lots of money doesn't always work - I can think of several examples. At least the fact that some people are willing to pay megabucks ensures there'll be a market when it comes to selling successful home produced horses.
 
Thanks everyone. As always, different points of view and of course, when we compete it really IS satisfying when we do well against other more professionally produced horses. Was feeling a bit fed up about it last night... but having just put the lovely boys out in the suny paddock, and come in and read all your posts, am feeling much happier today... and already looking forward to competing again this weekend...
Come on the underdog!!!!!
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Well having had to produce brass from muck most of my life I have really enjoyed being able to afford horses who have some work already put it
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That said P was a hunter when I bought her and now she is a great hunter and a great allrounder, so again I have done some work. Now I am looking for a complete been there, done it type, and I REALLY do not care if people look down on me for that - at 34 I think I deserve it!

I will get as much satisfaction winning a rosette with a made horse - I can assure everyone of that!
 
I dont think it makes any difference TBH you still have to be able to ride the horse!

And TBH sometimes can be harder with "made" horses and more often then not they have been ridden by professionals and are more difficult to ride and like I have found out you sometimes have to deal with other peoples problems!
 
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Absolutely agree H_J - TRUE schoolmasters are notoriously difficult to find the buttons of, but once you have...
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Yes I agree with that, when you find the right buttons they are worth their weight in gold
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Its just life though isnt it that someone can afford a better horse then you or not etc, would be boring if we all had the same budget/horses!
 
Yes it is just life... maybe in the future I will be able to afford a ready made variety... but as I have never been in that position ( and can't see it happening any time soon!) I really can't be honest about whether I would buy one or not. (Super_Kat)... but for the time being I am happy with what I've got...
It certainly would be a boring old world if we all liked the same...
 
Ive had both, a ready made horse who took me a long time to get to grips with, and 3 horses Ive brought on or retrained have been much more fun
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What do you suggest happens to all the horses that have reached their limit?

Do you have them shot or sell them to a less experienced rider to enjoy?
 
When I was in ponies I produced them form being eliminated at winning xc, so satisfying. But I have to say its VERY nice to have a ready made schoolmaster to ride now.
 
The satisfaction you get from turning around an un ridable 5yo that everyone told you would amount to nothing to then taking it clear round Blenheim 3* and for those people to finally see how talented it is a feeling that money could never ever buy. However, the sweat blood and tears that went into that is errr 'character building' so I guess if had the opportunity to spend lots of money on an expensive one I wouldn't say no!!
 
I had sooooooooooooooo much fun turning my 14.2 JA pony to an eventer who competed up to novice and it was the best days ever as it was fun and I learnt soooo much. I have a gorgeous dressage horse who was professionaly produced but I am having to fix problems that the past has caused but I do still enjoy it and I would not have it any other way!


Money can buy you alot of things but we all know what it cant buy and thats the best things in life!
 
"Money can buy you alot of things but we all know what it cant buy and thats the best things in life! "

Hear, hear... well said...
 
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I dont think it makes any difference TBH you still have to be able to ride the horse!

And TBH sometimes can be harder with "made" horses and more often then not they have been ridden by professionals and are more difficult to ride and like I have found out you sometimes have to deal with other peoples problems!

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I totally agree, i bought Gigolo at the end of October 07 and we didnt get round a course without a stop until the 1st January 08
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But once i had found the buttons to press it clicked.

Also Danny is only 7 but has done quite a bit and i would class as ready made, but he is a hard ride and tries it on big style!!

Its not always easy on your ready made ones, you still have to ride them the same as any other horse
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because people that buy ready made are boring!! its so much more satisfying doing it yourself dont you think?

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The great thing about eventing is that no matter how good the horse, it has to be ridden - look at Parkmore Ed's performance under owner and WFP for example... And whoever said early in this thread that the results won't last long if the kid can't ride is spot on - horsey will realise he hasn't got OT on him pretty quickly then it will be all down to new jockey. Nothing wrong, in my book, if you have enough money, buying a horse that has a good start from a decent rider (making no judgments whether this horse falls into that category
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) I'm not in that position but don't really begrudge those who are - like I said, in my experience it all comes out in the wash in the end
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