Why is this reduced from £149???

Was it ever worth £149 is the question. Not a make I've heard of. See if they are online anywhere else and check out the safety standard. I have a Charles Owen J3 and I like it. You need to try them one to see what suits your head shape.
 
I went onto robinsons and equestrian clearence to compare prices etc. but one thing that stands out is the make. Therefore as said above - was it ever worth more? Also, I don't know if it's changed now but I know my hat conforms to both PAS 015:1998 and B.S.E.N:1384:1997, and it only conforms to the EN1384. Can't remember for riding clubs etc. if it has to conform to one or both so may be worth checking the standard you require from the hat.
 
It's on ebay, amazon, sports direct, all the sites if you google it. Hubs says sports direct often over inflate the original price and then "discount it".

I can't find much on the make of the hat. All very odd. :confused:
 
I googled hat standards - EN 1384 is the minimum - when have BS infront we know it's been approved by Britain. It says if it has been approved in other European countries it can often be a hat that would not have been approved by Britain. I can't understand why reputable horse companies are not selling it if it's that good.


It also doesn't mention having a kite mark
 
I think its a classic selling technique of big stores like that and I wouldn't pay any attention to the original price. They only have to have had it at that price for a certain number of days at a certain number of shops.

They are aiming for the kid who goes to a riding school and the parents see the ticket and think god hats are so expensive look at this bargain...
 
The manufacturer of the "Stand and Deliver", "Questor" and "Avanti" ranges has tried to copy popular equestrian equipment and have it manufactured in the Far East. The quality is not worth anywhere near the RRP in my opinion. It may just about be worth the reduced price, but is certainly not a bargain, even at that.
 
Never a good idea to buy a hat online - fitting is such a personal thing. We sell 6 different brands & within that 17, yes, 17 different styles. You would be astonished at the variation in peoples head shapes, please, get properly fitted by your local shop & make sure the hat you choose is BSI Kitemarked - You only have 1 head!!!
 
longdog said:
Never a good idea to buy a hat online - fitting is such a personal thing. We sell 6 different brands & within that 17, yes, 17 different styles. You would be astonished at the variation in peoples head shapes, please, get properly fitted by your local shop & make sure the hat you choose is BSI Kitemarked - You only have 1 head!!!
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So true. I cannot find a hat with a peak to fit my shape of head. I've only ever found one style scull cap that fits my shape head. Also, I once had a hat that fitted, had it years, was hurting - went to get it checked, thinking they'd take some padding out - turns out my head had grown and I was wearing a hat TWO sizes too small. To get my head in it I'd been wearing it so it covered my eye brows - no wonder I couldn't wear it long. So it definitely is a good idea to get it fitted.

EDITED TO ADD = also best to get it fitted by someone trained to. Am not sure people in JJB sports/sports direct etc. will have much clue! I know when I go to tack shops to buy a hat only certain staff are allowed to check if it fits.
 
If you scroll down it says it complies with BS EN 1384:2012
EN 1384 is essentially the same as BS 1384
I'll admit I took a chance on one of the slightly more expensive versions of this hat and it's the nicest, most comfy thing I've had on my head in a long time. I must have an oval head because a lot of hats feel tight across my forehead. I admit it was a big chance to take, but I can turn my head upside down and shake in my new hat and it stays on. Once I get a hat on my head I think I'm competent to fit myself.
 
Tinypony said:
If you scroll down it says it complies with BS EN 1384:2012
EN 1384 is essentially the same as BS 1384
I'll admit I took a chance on one of the slightly more expensive versions of this hat and it's the nicest, most comfy thing I've had on my head in a long time. I must have an oval head because a lot of hats feel tight across my forehead. I admit it was a big chance to take, but I can turn my head upside down and shake in my new hat and it stays on. Once I get a hat on my head I think I'm competent to fit myself.
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EN 1384 is not the same as BS EN 1384
The standard is the same, but the addition of the BS in front means that the hats are batch tested. Every batch made has 1 hat tested to destruction. Hats without the BS number are only tested when first made. This means that any flaws or batches made with a small mistake are not picked up on & are put into the market. This is not necessarily an issue until you have a bad fall & your hat may not be able to take the impact.
I just don't see that it is worth taking a risk over :)
 
From the pictures the OP posted this hat looks identical to the one that HKM with a list price of around £50, it also is to the same standard. What appears to be the same hat is also marketed by Kramer in Germany under a different brand name and retails for about 45 euros. Definitely not a £149 hat!
 
It may have already been said as I haven't read all the post, but your head is your head! You only get one! And I don't know about anyone else but I value mine at more than £22!!!
 
Yes... but I expect a lot of people here are using hats that are of this standard, and probably a significant number are using hats of much older standards that should technically have been updated.

I've just done a quick Google and seen a lot of better-known make hats being sold that meet the same standard as the slightly more expensive hat I linked to http://www.sportsdirect.com/snowbee-premium-equestrian-riding-helmet-767015. Harry Hall, Caldene, a Champion hat for £99, the Charles Owen Showjumper, and in fact the Charles Owen jockey skull - all the same safety standard - BSEN 1384.

So while I accept that some people get a bit het up about cheaper products, if they meet the same standard as something more expensive - then why not? :-))
 
Mandwhy, that is true but when the item in question could potentially be the difference between life and death, I personally would only buy from a trusted well known brand. I certainly wouldn't buy from a website that has no clue about the equine industry.
 
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