Why most of people use rugs for turnout?

peony said:
Who cares?

Why does it matter to you what other people do with their horses? Or did you purposefully just want to start a debate?

Use the search button on here before posting... it works wonders...
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If everyone used the search button there would be no more posts! 90% of threads are repeats and come round and round. Each time you may get someone new adding something interesting. Then again you may just get someone being a bit rude...

TbLover its always good to ask questions and learn new things. I lived in Italy for a year, working with horses, and things were very different to the UK there too. You are not strange for wanting your horses to be as natural as possible. There are a lot of reasons people clip and rug in the UK.
 
peony said:
Who cares?

Why does it matter to you what other people do with their horses? Or did you purposefully just want to start a debate?

Use the search button on here before posting... it works wonders...
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How rude. If we all did this ^, there would never be any new postings on HHO! Someone said this to me last week on one of the, extremely rare, threads I started - also a new poster.

Hi TBLover - yes, I moved to England from Belgium and was astounded at the rug situation. In Belgium, we rugged at night on a fully clipped horse in a competition yard, but at my last yard where I had an old girl and a youngster, none of the horses were ever rugged nor were they ever clipped.

In England, things are different and although I keep my horses at home so not unduly influenced by others, find that I now rug because I have a thin skinned TB and a clipped youngster who are in at night. They are out for 12-13 hours in the winter (24/7 for 8 months of the year) and have quite light rugs on compared to lots of other people I know but mainly rug because I work full-time and need them to be clean to ride at night.
 
Hi,

Each horse/pony is different - some are partly clipped/some fully clipped/others are kept naturale.

My lad's partly clipped - he sweats on his neck and chest in work - much more sensible to clip him and towel him off and rug him whilst out.

He likes his food but doesn't keep his weight on in winter - I rug him to help keep him warm and not need to use what little fat store he has to keep him warm. :D

At our yard we have partly clipped ponies out in winter without any rug - they are hot-bods and keep weight on and are perfectly happy out in snow - the only rugs they may have on are less than 100g - and only if the temperatures really drop to silly levels.
 
Maybe we get wetter winters than Germany? I have friends in Berlin who prefer the German winter to ours, although it gets a lot colder than it does here. Horses cope better with cold rather than wet & cold, possibly don't need the rugs as much then. M
 
Nicnac said:
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That was an anwer what I was hoping for THANK YOU Nicnac

I can understand that a lot of people work and have no time to wait groom etc.

Not erverone is in a position to have a lot of time (like me) husband working earns enough to manage all things, and yes I work ones a month to give lessons (see other thread) in Germany over a weekend as well

But all in all its great to read that most forums poster are nice and give advice and informations.
 
TbLover said:
In Germany you will not find many people that clipp their horses in my stable was not one!! I have seen that for competion horses but for happy hucker, or hunting not very often
Because the most people like to groom and spend time with their horses how long it ever takes (competion riders are diffrent I know )
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Please forgive me for asking, but where in Germany were you? :confused:
When I was working there in the 80's it was common to clip out working and competition horses, also we used rugs for them when out too tho most top competition horses were stabled through the winter.
It was the same when I was taking horses back & forwards for during the 90's too. Mostly the same as at many UK good comp yards :)
 
Where in Germany do you come from OP? Because all the German stables I know always rug their horses and all of them are clipped out during the winter too. The Germans that I know are even bigger ruggers (lol sounds crude!) than the Brits.
 
The Fuzzy Furry said:
Please forgive me for asking, but where in Germany were you? :confused:
When I was working there in the 80's it was common to clip out working and competition horses, also we used rugs for them when out too tho most top competition horses were stabled through the winter.
It was the same when I was taking horses back & forwards for during the 90's too. Mostly the same as at many UK good comp yards :)
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Cross-posted with you FF, yes that has always been my experience with German stables too, and it's been like this for decades.
 
Spring Feather said:
Where in Germany do you come from OP? Because all the German stables I know always rug their horses and all of them are clipped out during the winter too. The Germans that I know are even bigger ruggers (lol sounds crude!) than the Brits.
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How many stable you know, where are there based for which purpose are there used (dressage, all purporse, jump)
 
Speaking as an elder here, yes British horse-owners do over-rug these days. Horses in my youth wore much, much less and did just fine.
But they do need something. If you're going to ride and they then sweat, it would take hours to dry them off, or risk them getting chilled. So you clip them. Something has to replace that fur.
A bit like us wearing clothes. In ye olden days, humans migrated to colder regions, then skinned and wore the fur of indigenous animals to survive. Originally, we were naked - gross thought, I know.
 
TbLover said:
I come from a small village and my yard was in Freudenberg

We dont speak about high class competion horses!!!

They are diffrent but if you like look on the website of my old yard in germany you will not find one horse which is clipped if anyone need translation please give me a shout

http://www.hof-goesingen.de/index.html
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My comment ref comp horses was more aimed at the understanding for HHO'ers here, perhaps a bit higher standard? :)
However, what you might call top level dressage or showjumpers isn't really the discussion here :)

All I did was respond to your comment about nobody using rugs or clipping in Germany, which honestly is a rather sweeping statement.
Where I have worked (nr Essen and also Leipzig) there was proof that this is not so at all. Transporting high value horses to same areas & also Aachen also confirmed this to me :)
 
Spring Feather said:
*stifles a snigger* :D

Name - Paula
DOB - 2002
Breed - Tinker Mix

http://www.hof-goesingen.de/12.html

Yep you're right OP, I've never seen a yard like that in Germany.
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You have never seen that I understand because there is a horse like a horse not an option to do YOUR sport.

You mean that an tinker hasn't the right to live an good circumstances doesn't matter how old or what breed

I think you only goes in stables which have an person that makes your horse ready and if you have finished your Sport than you give them a person that do the care of the horse and if this horse have an injury and not rideable you bring them next door to an charity, right?

If not explain me why you find this stable so funny?

Regards
Daniela
 
Goldenstar, there is still drag hunting in Germany but from the photos I have seen its very different to the UK (and as far as I can remember the horses were not clipped) I have just sent a text for the name of the site with photos of a hunt on from someone who went to live there which some of you may find interesting. when I go there yes some horses are clipped and some are rugged but most normal horses on smaller yards do not get rugged and a lot do live out all year. the winters are a fair bit colder but tend to be drier so orses don't come in as muddy as they do in the UK. I can totally understand the OP wanting to know why the difference and I imagine if some of the posters on here went abroad they would find that the ways of keeping horses will differ widely even across borders.
 
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Looks like a very nice yard OP.

It's personal preference. Some choose to and some choose not to.
 
tallyho! said:
Looks like a very nice yard OP.

It's personal preference. Some choose to and some choose not to.
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I wish i could bring them all here and so cheap full livery with all in 260 Euros

2 schools, 1 mange with floodlight, 1 Jumping menage, good hacking,
endless grazing 30 acre, and the best is there you can be a rider and a horse is a horse
 
This is why my two are rugged:
Connie x tb, grows long but fine coat, not dense enough to be waterproof in very wet weather, but out as much as possible. Which unrugged would mean she would spend all her time sheltering instead of grazing. Also a bit of a wuss, & always has been where the cold is concerned. Generally leave her unrugged as long as possible, but once rugged I fully clip. Much easier to keep clean clipped, & means I can do stuff with her like her itchy spots & playing with her, rather than removing mud & loads of fluff in spring. Used to clip & rug earlier when she competed properly. But coat too fluffy to leave on for work we do at the moment, so easier to just get the lot off.
Other is mini x (something). Grows a coat a duck would envy, left unclipped doesn't need a rug. Gets clipped though in winter because although a child's pony, daughter does really work her, & pony is such a hot little thing anyway & has such a dense coat she really needs clipping. She doesn't need a full clip, but thats what she's had this year. Same as me, it allows daughter to have more time to mess about & play with her. And come spring I'd rather daughter had fun playing silly games, or riding, or plaiting & messing than hours grooming out tons of coat.
 
TbLover said:
You mean that an tinker hasn't the right to live an good circumstances doesn't matter how old or what breed


Regards
Daniela
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No, I think she was giggling because calling it a Tinker is not a word you'd get away with in the UK nowadays, unless you were being rude/jokey..

The stables look wonderful. For someone who doesn't know Germany very well, are they North/South Germany, which region? It looks beautiful. What are the winters like there?
 
Honey08 said:
No, I think she was giggling because calling it a Tinker is not a word you'd get away with in the UK nowadays, unless you were being rude/jokey..

The stables look wonderful. For someone who doesn't know Germany very well, are they North/South Germany, which region? It looks beautiful. What are the winters like there?
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This is in ca. the middle of Germany between Bonn and Frankfurt

The winters hmm ok somtimes a lot of snow somtimes not but cold and rainy sometimes too so we have mud as well but anyway Its great there very familar and the owners are great
 
We rugs the ones that need it :-) the old, the clipped, the ones that feel it more than others... Even hairy ones sometimes need extra protection... Owners choice if yourself but I think we feel better if we know that our neds are nice and warm, rather than just letting them cope.
 
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