why the snotty attitude???

Funny thing is I'm a full livery on a yard where I choose to feed my horses their evening feed myself. The reason is simple. If they are fed with the others I cannot ride in the evening because the owner feeds just before going in for the night - just before I get there after work. Also, if they are fed for me, there is no flexibility in feeding regime if I choose not to ride and give them a couple of days off.

I'm not saying they don't 'mind' - but they do recognise their routine and my two look to me to be fed in the evening, not the yo and the other horses know I don't feed them and simply ignore me - is that being mean?
 
Just to be awkward (again, I hear you cry!
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) I'd like a yard which offered flexibility regarding DIY or full livery...on the occasions when I've injured myself (not horse related) I've had to rely on OH and friends to do the girls....being able to put them on full livery for a period would be great.
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I'd agree with that completly. I think more people have an attitude towards people on full livery (shouldnt have horses, cant spend enough time with them, better off on loan or sold, dont have a relationship with them, waste of money - all comments which arise on here a LOT).

Ive done both but settled with full now for a variety of reasons. I dont have any problems with people who do DIY but i can see from a yard owners point of view that if you have SOME full liveries on the yard, it must just be easier to have ALL full liveries rather than trying to mix the two.
 
You, awkward? Never...

That's what we have on our yard, and its a really useful service. Everyone is on assisted livery, i.e. feed and TO in the mornings, and the YO will do full livery for £5/day or longer periods.

It's so nice not having to put upon other people (ie my mum!) if I can't make it up for whatever reason. Some liveries do take the proverbial, so now she needs to be told before noon if a horse is to be on livery that day, otherwise she charges double.
 
I was one of those who warned against having DIY'ers on a Competition Yard...but at no point was I being snotty towards DIY'ers .

My concerns revolve around the additional restrictions that apply to horses competing under international rules that many people would not be aware of. If you restrict the management of the horses to a smaller number of people you have a better chance of retaining some sort of control over what your competition horses ingest or are brought int contact with.

At the end of the day one simple mistake could cost a rider six months income for a ban...not to mention the damage to his/her reputation. I just don't think it's worth the risk personally...
 
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Most people have suggested assisted DIY or at least include bedding and hay. This means you have some control over the routine of the horses and you ensure they all have a certain standard of care and attention. Even if this assist is simply that all horses are feed breakfast at the same time and hay'd or turned out.

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This is what i have and it works well!!I have been on many diy yards and people do help themselves and things do go missing!!I dont think it is tarring every diyer with the same brush(i am a diyer and would never dream of helping myself),just an unfortunate part of human nature that not everybody is honest!!!
 
having been on full livery many times i would not do it again, have had my horses not fed or mucked out, other horses in there boxes, my rugs used on other horses etc etc

DIY is the only way for me
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all my full liveries couldnt go on diy but they all come down 3 days durring the week and weekends - they spend more time witht he horse as dont have to rush around making feeds, mucking out etc etc !! but if its rainging and horrible they dont have to come down !
 
I've been on both DIY and full livery like a few people here. And I'm a fan of both! I agree that you have way more control on DIY, and in (thankfully rare cases) some full livery places don't do as promised in the way of feeds / proper muck out etc. BUT... I am one of those commuters - I travel 4 hours a day to and from work, and so my horse is on full livery for a number of reasons.
First, if I were to be feeding, mucking out and turning out in the morning, I would have to be at the yard at 4 am to give me time to get home and clean before work. Then of course, I would end up feeding the whole yard so none of the other horses get upset, which would take more time.
Then I wouldn't be able to turn out because none of the others would be out and he will get upset on his own. And then he'd be left on his own when the others come in until I get back from work at 7 pm, so would get upset again.
And before you ask, I have to work so far away (London) as I can't earn enough to keep him locally. But I still make a fuss of him in the evenings, grooming and riding, and I know he loves being groomed and made a fuss of far more than he appreciates the use of the time for mucking out! (When I was on assisted DIY the feeding and turn out / bring in was done for me, and I mucked out, did feeds, groomed and rode in the evenings).
Shame about my poor OH tho - he gets the attention if I'm still awake when I get home at 9 - it would be more like 10 if I was still on assisted DIY, and then I still have to eat etc. So, it's not possible for me now, but I'm really lucky where I am as they do full livery really well.
 
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I am a DIYer and love it i would not want to be on full livery whats the point in having a horse you hardly spend any time with. You may as well loan it.

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Some of us don't have a choice
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also most people spend more time with there horses rather than doing chores that take up there time !!
 
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I am a DIYer and love it i would not want to be on full livery whats the point in having a horse you hardly spend any time with.

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Because they want to have a horse, perhaps?

Honestly, I can't see what the amount of time you spend with your horse has anything to do with whether or not you have one? People live different lives and how some do things, doesn't mean that everyone should do it the same.
 
Not got time to read the thread fully, but I think that you will find from a financial point of view that the DIYers pay for their rent etc but very little else (thats the whole point of being DIY) whereas the part/full liveries are a profit forming part of the yard.

If the OP is offering facilities as wonderful as they sound then its going to cost a fair whack to run the yard, so she will need all of the profit type liveries she can get.

Dont take offence anyone at being DIY, I have only ever been DIY.... its not down market or anything.... it just doesnt generate the revenue needed to support a fantastic yard.
 
I honestly don't mind how people keep their horses or how often they see them so long as they are well cared for, it really is down to personal circumstances and personality. I now have George on full livery Mon-fri and assisted DIY at w'ends and with the odd hours I work this works just fine. I probably see more of George now because I don't have to muck out, I also don't have to get up at 5.30am some mornings which was doing my head in. We can also have full livery at weekends for £5 a day which is handy - it suits me, but I can understand it wouldn't suit everyone.
 
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