Will farmkey help me on this matter?

LankyDoodle

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I bought George in November 2002 from a woman who owned a 3 stable yard. She had G there as a livery with a person who had him on loan, as his owner had a back injury. The loaner of the horse didn't pay the livery and his owner couldn't afford to stump up, so the yard owner sold him to recoup her losses.

When we bought G we were able to contact his previous owner briefly, but then she moved house. She was really sad that G had been sold as she'd done jumping with him and he'd been her horse of a lifetime apparently. Needless to say that he'd been badly treated by this yard owner, kept in his stable 24/7 and had just really lost trust in people. He had had great schooling and you could still see that, but he really lacked suppleness and his fitness was attrocious. We worked on this.

In the advert it said he was 8 years old. On his farmkey certificate it said he was freezemarked in December 1993, so clearly in November 2002, he was actually 9, nearly 10 (they SHOULD be a yearling before they can be freezemarked). However, Sparkle was marked by us when she was 4 so it's possible he was older than 1 when he was marked and, as such, I have always been unclear of his age. Also, when he was vetted the vet told us he was aged which just means 9+ in age.

Apparently he had papers but these were lost somewhere between his first owner and the owner before me (he has had 3 including me). I got his passport in about 2003/4 whe it became legal. The only thing I have that MAY give me an indicator to his true age is maybe his freezemark. I have always pondered it but something in me wonders whether they have his year of foaling on record, by some small chance. They'd obviously have his basic details on file. I suppose if he was marked later then they may not have his date of foaling.... but is it worth a shot? Has anyone found out information like this from farmkey? It's all I have and I really want to know his proper age. The best I have is that, going by his freezemark, he was 15 in December...
 
Did he belong to anyone else prior to his last owner? Or was it is his last owner who had him freezemarked?

If it was someone else, Farmkey can for a small charge pass on your details to the person who had him freezemarked, and that may help you find out more about him.
 
On his vaccination record it's actually only me, the yard owner who took himt o recoup her losses and the previous owner, but I know she bought him from another person a few years beforehand. Sadly his freezemark records only have me on them. When I bought him they had the last owner's details but I transferred ownership.

Thank you.
 
I bought a mare who'd owners had lost her freezemark papers. I initially phoned them to check that she wasn't stolen. They could tell me her recorded height, colour, the date of her freezemarking, how many owners had registered her in their name with them and their county/area.

I should have known any horse who'd had 7 owners and done more or less a loop of the country in under 2 years may have 'issues' but there goes!

The farmkey woman said they couldn't tell me names (she didn't seem to know hers) or her age as they don't record them due to them changing when they're sold.

This was a few years ago now, it may have changed?
 
Farmkey May have the original owners name and address if it was them who had him freezemarked. They cannot tell you who they are but I beleive they will send on a letter if you write one and send it to them, they will forward it on. But I would try to speak to them on the phone first to see if that is possible. Only then if the original owners want to make contact with you will you stand a chance of maybe finding out.

You say he had other papers? Do you know which society he was registered with? His breed society might be worth a shot if you know his breed and the previous owners name?
 
Thanks to all for all of the information. Very useful. I always wonder what certain freezemarks mean. I think they are random. G's is 7VA3 which seems quite obscure to me.

I will contact FK on Monday. Useful to know I will probably never know his real age. I think he was registered with WPCS but that could have been another of the lies to go with his age and his past!

Not too bothered as he is lovely but am I the only one who is ever conscious of how long they have left with their horse?
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Hi, i bought a pony not so long ago who is freezemarked aswell, but she had no paper work with her, i tried freeze mark but they couldnt help me as she wasnt done by them, i'm now stuck like you & apparently the freeze mark company she was done with is not trading anymore, the freeze mark ended with a diamond shape which was mistaken for a 0, so i'm pretty stuck, if you manage to find out anything -like tracing back freezemark could you help me out.
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Yes I will do. I am lucky with George as he was done by Farmkey and I still have membership with them so they should be able to help. I looked at their website and it says they will also tell me where he was freezemarked. So if they can do that and they can say how many owners he has had then they can deduce who had him marked and contact those people with my details
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Otherwise I have to stick with the fact he is probably about 15. People keep telling me he looks about 9 though!
 
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