Will he always behave like a stallion?....

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I have a pony who was gelded in November. He was 6 at the time. I have since introduced him to a gelding who he tried to eat and bonk so had to take him away. Now I have 2 mares next door to him and he's behaving like a stallion and they are teasing him. Yesterday morning I found them all in together..one mare looked decidely knackered and he was in the process of wearing the other one out too. Do you think he will always be like this? Does he need to go out with other (maybe bigger) geldings to learn how to behave? Any ideas? He is relatively unhandled (a rescue)...
 
I have a good piccie of BOTH testicles so I know he's not a rig
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Hmmmm sounds a bit like my gelding (although he could be a rig, have never had him tested) except he mounts mares only and batters the hell out of geldings, hes nearly 16 and has always been this way.
 
We had a gelding like that - he was gelded about 3 years before we got him but still mounted mares and beat other horses up.....bless him, I don't think he ever got over the fact that he had no nuts! x
 
he must have a long memery. my colt was cut last year at 3yo and now he still bonks his women a year later, yet my other gelding who was also cut the same time last year as 3yo is not interested in bonking at all, .. So i suppose it depends on the pony. Yours was cut late so was well established as a stallion and most likely kept on own...
I would let him bonk away he might get tired of it, there again he might not..........
 
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We had a gelding like that - he was gelded about 3 years before we got him but still mounted mares and beat other horses up.....bless him, I don't think he ever got over the fact that he had no nuts! x

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Oh dear
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this pony is only little..about 12 hands. I just wonder if he needs to learn to behave. The gelding he duffed up was a shettie and the 2 mares aren't much bigger than him. I wonder if he needs a couple of big cobbie geldings to teach him some bounderies but don't want to throw him in there if he's gonna get himself hurt!!
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he must have a long memery. my colt was cut last year at 3yo and now he still bonks his women a year later, yet my other gelding who was also cut the same time last year as 3yo is not interested in bonking at all, .. So i suppose it depends on the pony. Yours was cut late so was well established as a stallion and most likely kept on own...
I would let him bonk away he might get tired of it, there again he might not..........

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I wondered about letting him get on with it but worry about injuries. I'm assuming theres on so much bonking my girls will take...and I also worry about the stress of it all. He really is quite full on and has lunged at daughter a few times if she gets between him and mares (they are seperated by electric).
 
it cant take anything up to 18 months for the hormones to settle, my lad was gelded Dec 05 when he was turning 4, all of last year he was very 'coltish' however it gradually got better and he is now 80% ok round mares. I also have a Highland who was a rig and was operated on 2 years ago to fully geld him, he was 6 at the time, he is 'stalliony', he is boss in the field, protective of mares and fought with my other lad when he was still recovering from being gelded. I found Rig Calm from global herbs took the edge off him last year and so far this year he ain't bothering with mares at all....
 
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it cant take anything up to 18 months for the hormones to settle, my lad was gelded Dec 05 when he was turning 4, all of last year he was very 'coltish' however it gradually got better and he is now 80% ok round mares. I also have a Highland who was a rig and was operated on 2 years ago to fully geld him, he was 6 at the time, he is 'stalliony', he is boss in the field, protective of mares and fought with my other lad when he was still recovering from being gelded. I found Rig Calm from global herbs took the edge off him last year and so far this year he ain't bothering with mares at all....

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Interesting thanks..
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Speak to your vet about it. We had a gelding that behaved in exactly the same way and whilst he was NOT a rig as we had him tested, he still behaved like a stallion. The vet then administered him with an injection of a drug used to stop male dogs from wandering and it all stopped entirely! The drug apparantly stops the behaviour for long enough for the horse's body to revert back to normal and prevents hormones from surging, thus altering the behaviour. By the time the drug wears off the horse should be used to behaving differently and thus not get excited around mares anymore. I cannot swear that it will work on all horses but it certainly worked on our boy and he was really bad! I would imagine the drug comtains something like oestrogen or another female hormone to counteract the males hormones.
 
Louis was very randy and riggy when I first got him. The vet suspected he was gelded quite late too. Well we had a couple of years of it and now he's calmed down completely, he's 15 now though so I think he's tired of flirting with the ladies
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We had one of these too. He'd been used for breeding until he got the chop as a 6yo. He never came right and we had to sell him as he was beating the crap out of my gelding and practially killing my mare with exhaustion (he would jump fences to get in with them). I believe he has been passed around quite a few homes since, sadly he was only 13hh so has somehow ended up in pony club homes which is so terrible.
 
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Speak to your vet about it. We had a gelding that behaved in exactly the same way and whilst he was NOT a rig as we had him tested, he still behaved like a stallion. The vet then administered him with an injection of a drug used to stop male dogs from wandering and it all stopped entirely! The drug apparantly stops the behaviour for long enough for the horse's body to revert back to normal and prevents hormones from surging, thus altering the behaviour. By the time the drug wears off the horse should be used to behaving differently and thus not get excited around mares anymore. I cannot swear that it will work on all horses but it certainly worked on our boy and he was really bad! I would imagine the drug comtains something like oestrogen or another female hormone to counteract the males hormones.

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thankyou..have replied to your PM..
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We had one of these too. He'd been used for breeding until he got the chop as a 6yo. He never came right and we had to sell him as he was beating the crap out of my gelding and practially killing my mare with exhaustion (he would jump fences to get in with them). I believe he has been passed around quite a few homes since, sadly he was only 13hh so has somehow ended up in pony club homes which is so terrible.

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Aw..thats sad. This lad is a rescue and hasn't had a great time of it so far so don't imagine he'll ever be much more than a companion..maybe something inhand as he's quite striking but soooo scared of people. His 'actual' owner won't let any harm come to him and TBH if I had more space I would have kept him myself but heyho...
 
I think it makes a huge difference if the stallion has bred mares prior to being gelded. They never really lose that sort of happy memory and instinct I don't think
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Mmm..yes. I know its like that for my dog!
Well this little chap is pretty wild so my guess is that he has been doing as he pleases all his life (bar the last year) so I guess it'll take a while for this kind of behaviour to change won't it..
 
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I think it makes a huge difference if the stallion has bred mares prior to being gelded. They never really lose that sort of happy memory and instinct I don't think
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I always find this type of thread funny because P is totally not like this
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He was gelded at 8 was at stud up until that time but he couldnt care less about that mares
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Sure he had some stallion traits but more when handling him initially as far as fighting or protecting the mares, he couldnt be anymore removed
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He is usually the one who gets bullied!!!!
 
My stallion spends his life being bullied....always has. He was just gelded last week and he is still at the bottom of the pecking order. He's a terrific guy and so cuddly and lovable; balls or no balls, I adore him
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Actually Loupride..a friend has one just like that. He was gelded at 7 and is so far removed from being a staliion its untrue. In fact my cobbie was gelded before I got him when he was 14 months old and he regularly mounts my mares and herds them but is also very gentle and un stallion like in every other way. I guess its a personality thing then....
 
So what do you all think I should do regarding my mares? Move them, let them all run together, leave them as they are..seperated between electric?...
 
My old cob was gelded at 7 and I swear he is gay. We had a few episodes a couple of years ago were he became rampant and scared me half to death but the vet said it was all in his head bless him. He is 30 now and will still wave it about when he is feeling a bit spring like but he is scared stiff of mares!
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The ID 6yo is the same but was only gelded last year after covering mares so I can forgive him a bit!
 
pmsl...well this chap swings both way..quite literally!! He's taken with the mares but will also have a 'go' at my little gelding..
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Well it really depends; when he was a stallion did he run alone or was he integrated in a herd? Mine has always lived in a herd with the mares. I once put him in with the geldings but they almost killed him so that never happened again.
 
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Well it really depends; when he was a stallion did he run alone or was he integrated in a herd? Mine has always lived in a herd with the mares. I once put him in with the geldings but they almost killed him so that never happened again.

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I was going to ask you that Tia, if he'd ever been in a herd with geldings? Once he's fully recovered from his alteration will you try him with geldings then or not bother upsetting the status quo? If it ain't broke, don't fix it really.
 
I'm really not sure Enfys. I have mulled it over so many times and still haven't come up with an answer. The problem is I am still very nervy about him going out with lively horses because of his broken neck. I know I sound a wee bitty paranoid but I'm just not sure whether I want to risk putting him into a situation where he could do himself damage.

The thing is he knows all of the mares here - he's grown up with them all and has lived with them all most of his life. I just don't know what the geldings would do to him if I was to put him in there. He shares an adjoining fence with them and gets on great over the fence; playing with halters, scratching each other etc.

It's a big step for me but I will watch and see and maybe take a couple of the geldings out and put him in a field with them just a couple at a time until he's been in with all of them before I release him in their big field all together.
 
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