will my bitch still be pregnant?

Cop-Pop said:
I might be being naive but why can't this country be like Australia and by law require dogs are neutered unless you've registered your dog as a breeding dog? My aunts dogs had to have special tags on to say they've been done - I suppose like license tags.
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That's a brilliant idea, but then I love staffords who are the ultimate example of a breed being ruined by backstreet breeders.

People are completely shocked when I start throwing stats at them, like a pound only keeps a dog for 7 days, then it's out if they are lucky to a rescue or PTS. Or that Staffie types, heathy and young are being PTS at upto a rate of 40 - 70 dogs a day, or that rescues, are not vote less pits of money but for the most, run on a shoestring, by volunteers. I would like to see all breeders having to register their dogs. I appreciate that in some instances, breeding pedigree dogs brings its own set of health issues but the Australian approach sounds sensible.
 
well im all for breeders been regesired and dog licences and microchipping.
all puppies i sell go with a health certificate,have first injections,insured for 4 weeks and guarantee or will have them back if new owners not want them/cant cope or whatever reason up to 5 months from the sale.all owners have receipt and supply of food to go and my puppies do not leave here until they are 8 weeks old.i can understand where some people are coming from on breeding dogs.all my breeding dogs come from excelleant breeding lines of their type.they are only bred if they are in tip top condition and are 3 years old.when they have had their litters and they come into season again.they are not bred from again straightaway.i d rather breed fewer healthy puppies than mass produce them everytime a bitch is in season-not my style.breeding dogs is not just about making money.its about supply puppies of whatever breed for family pets.my puppies are all well socialised as much as i can in the time i have them.so just cos i have bred my westie with a poodle doesnt make me a bad person.i have had westiepoos b4 and they are lovelly dogs.my dogs are not overpriced either.ive seen westiepoos got for £700.mine are much less than that.
 
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So if the owner is unable to keep the pup, but it's more than 5 months after the sale, you take nothing to do with it and pup ends up in rescue? You allowed the pup to be brought into the world, you have a responsibility to that pup for the rest of its life, whether you're asked to take it back after 2 weeks or 15 years.

I've been asked to rehome a litter of pups because the owner never bothered to spay their bitch, I'm getting pups microchipped (before which they'll have a quick vet check), worming and defleaing them and they're going to their new homes with a contract (I know it may not be legally binding but at least its something) that they'll be vaccinated within 24 hours and neutered at 6 months. As well as this I'm offering lifetime backup for the pups, behavioural and if the worst came to the worst emergency foster before finding a new home. I have absolutely no responsibility for these pups, yet I'm doing as much for them as you do for your pups. Glorified puppy farming springs to mind.
 
guarantee or will have them back if new owners not want them/cant cope or whatever reason up to 5 months from the sale.
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Why aren't you offering a lifetime guarantee to have them back?
 
IMO a breeder should take responsibility for a dog they have bred for life not just for 5 months. Evie's gang are coming up to 5 months now, I cannot imagine washing my hands of them at this stage. Some people will remember me asking on here for help to rehome a bitch who I had bred nearly 11 years previously, that is what a responsible breeder should do. For those that do remember Saffie, she is still going strong at 14.5 years, bless her.:)
 
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What does a health certificate cover? Is that a certificate to show that the parents have had all the relevant tests for their breeds with their scores, or is it a certificate to say a vet has looked at the puppies and they appear healthy?
 
Op your dogs may be health checked and good blood lines but if they are not health tested you are being very irresponsible. Im sure if they were you would be singing it from the rooftops the fact you have failed to mention it leads me to believe they are not.

If you were a genuine responsible breeder you wouldnt be breeding these xbreeds, breeders of pedigrees bitches have a litter limitation placed on them by the Kennel Club and anyone over the limit cant register their puppies.As you are working outside these rules you have no such restrictions and have carte blanche to breed as many as you like, in my opinion it a licence to print money.

I hope you are declaring all this to the Inland revenue as this is classed as unearned income and Ive heard they are cracking down on people like you.
 
5 months:confused: that is utterly disgraceful. Is that so it's easier to re sell as they are still puppies or because they may not be neutered at that age and you can re breed:rolleyes:

We as a rescue offer "life time back up" we never bred, we where not responsible for them being abandoned and we sure a s hell made no money from them. Who are the mugs here then:rolleyes:
I have just taken an 11 year old rescue back that I rehomed when she was 10 months old. Clearly I should have said "tuff, not my problem, hoy her on gum tree":rolleyes:
 
Blimey,what a great idea,only take back up to five months..brilliant..probably house trained and lead trained by then and very very resellable.
Think I`m going wrong here somehow, and of course having a knowledge of simple genetics is an awful hinderence.It would mean you had to admit you knew that NOT all these lovely pound sign puppies are non allergic ! Goodness,what a twit I have been.
 
EAST KENT said:
Blimey,what a great idea,only take back up to five months..brilliant..probably house trained and lead trained by then and very very resellable.
Think I`m going wrong here somehow, and of course having a knowledge of simple genetics is an awful hinderence.It would mean you had to admit you knew that NOT all these lovely pound sign puppies are non allergic ! Goodness,what a twit I have been.
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You really should pay more attention EK :D
 
Aintgotnothayaintgotnobraineither.

Seriously though, I've read posts from aintgonothayorbraineither and she/he is a subtle troll. The slight grammatical errors, contentious posts, the feigned ignorance reeks TROLL.
 
horseloaner said:
It really isn't worth it. If anyone does have a crossbred litter and accidents do happen then register them with the KC under the Activity Register and Microchip before they leave you at least then you have taken some responsibility for the animals that you produce.
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nooooo the KC aint got **** on the "dog lovers register"...;););););););)
 
To those who say why are these cross breeds £500-£700, ask yourself why any puppy costs this?

The health tests are only a one off cost, a bitch is only pregnant for 9 weeks, dogs don't cost much to feed. Why does any breeder think it's ok to get thousands of pounds for a litter?

I don't think ANY breeder can take the moral high ground here.
 
Thanks Dobiegirl.

You know Foxy, I actually do feel I can take the moral high ground here. Yes I had a litter from Evie earlier this year, she was bred from purely because I wanted a bitch to keep (aintgotnohay hasn't answered my question if she breeds to keep/improve her line). I got my pup in Freya who so far is everything I could have hoped for (and 5 other pups who are making their new owners very happy and are in regular contact). Whilst going out and about with Freya I have been approached by many people asking when I will be breeding again because they want a pup. Evie is in season now, so it could be tempting to take her next time, but in October she will be being spayed, as has always been my intention.
 
lifetime guarantee? so i should have the pup back at any age.so if its about 14.i should have it back even if im no longer a breeder-r u mad whoever said that.ive been breeding dogs for ages and only ever had 2 complaints.my dogs get the best in care and that includes vet care.they r kept in a clean environement and are all happy and healthy.if you want to come and see them then please do.oh yes my westie is pregnant.
 
You made it - you're responsible for it. 'We order the time of their birth and the time of their death - in between, we have a duty.'

You never actually answered my question on the health certificates?
 
aintgotnohay said:
lifetime guarantee? so i should have the pup back at any age.so if its about 14.i should have it back even if im no longer a breeder-r u mad whoever said that.ive been breeding dogs for ages and only ever had 2 complaints.my dogs get the best in care and that includes vet care.they r kept in a clean environement and are all happy and healthy.if you want to come and see them then please do.oh yes my westie is pregnant.
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What were the complaints?

and no they are not mad they are RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS something you obviously know naff all about. :mad:
 
aintgotnohay said:
lifetime guarantee? so i should have the pup back at any age.so if its about 14.i should have it back even if im no longer a breeder-r u mad whoever said that.ive been breeding dogs for ages and only ever had 2 complaints.my dogs get the best in care and that includes vet care.they r kept in a clean environement and are all happy and healthy.if you want to come and see them then please do.oh yes my westie is pregnant.
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Yes you should have your pups back or at least help if they need rehoming at any age if you are a decent breeder. See my post a bit further up about the 11 year old I bred! If you have been breeding dogs for ages why do you keep coming on here and asking stupid questions?
Having just realised your location I wonder if you are the "breeder" who is constantly advertising pups for sale of the breeds you have. Breeds which incidentally seem to be a favourite choice of puppy farmers.
 
Taking back a dog you bred at any age is not mad, it is responsible.
I am friends with lots of top-end show breeders on Facebook and they often post appeals for rehoming of dogs they have taken back at 9, 10, 11 years old.
Shame on you.
 
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