with these posts about "equine rescue"

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a little question.......

you have just £500 to spend on a pony.....and you are at a market/sale...

150 lots...ooo, what a choice! have a good look round, see what is there..

lot 21...19yr old gelding, poor condition, a few sores/lumps/bumps/nervous/poor feet/iffy conformation

lot 36..6 yr old unbroken, fair condition/poor feet/needs worming/re-backing/but decent conformation

lot 68..yearling..apalling feet/very wormy/bad hocks/ewe necked...obviously destined for abbatoir....

you can ONLY spend your money once.

which would YOU take home???
 
not a trick question...this happened recently....the 6 yr old was bougt by the "meatman"...

the same "meatman" sold the crap to the "aah-factors"......


6 yr old made £280

the other 2 made over £600.....bought by idiots who know jack sh1te.......
 
Do these people not understand ANYTHING
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Depends on whether you want a lawn mower or are intending to try and make a profit...

I am an absolute sucker so would probably telephone my mum and sell her a sob story and bring home all three - haing paid for one myself and got mum to pay for the other tow.

The money I make on lot 6 would then go on trying to give lot 21 and lot 69 a quality of life for their rest of his days.
 
The first one, because the second one has already been bought by people who want to ride it! I would give the old horse a few years in a loving home before it snuffed it. The feet on the yearling could be sorted; ditto the worms. A lot of foals have cow hocks which straighten out, not sure what can be done with a ewe neck. I am the sort of person who would make you all roll your eyes, but I would almost certainly buy one of the orphans!
 
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not a trick question...this happened recently....the 6 yr old was bougt by the "meatman"...

the same "meatman" sold the crap to the "aah-factors"......


6 yr old made £280

the other 2 made over £600.....bought by idiots who know jack sh1te.......

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Ah but that is not what you said! I thought they were all for sale in the same market, not being sold by the meatman.
 
they were all at the same sale sooty...

the same lot numbers too......

the not so "good" types were sold by a regular meatman...he bought the other from a private seller....
 
lot 36 for me. have been around these sales before and got the odd bargain, if it has decent conformation and is sound i will bid, anything old broken down, dreadful confo...surley is better off as meat, rather than going on a downward spiral, often these horses end up being "rescued" by complete numpties...i could rant all night on this subject.
 
This isn't a trick question is it-you are just using these people to be able to have another dig at a worhtwhile cause.

Now how sad is that?

Why don't you reveal all now and save your time? and theirs!
 
So which horse sale was this then or are you not obliged to tell? Also who was the seller because it would be interesting to know for many different reasons?
 
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Why don't you reveal all now and save your time? and theirs!

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JM already has; if you care to read the whole post.
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The majority of these at any auction go on the meat lorries. It isn't a question of 'saving' or 'rescuing - it's a question of buying only if you are sure you can 'house' and feed and look after the horse(s) in question. No matter how sad they look, how awful the day is, how many meat dealers are present, the question you must ask is do I have the facilities and funds to give whatever I take home a good quality of life?
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not a trick question...this happened recently....the 6 yr old was bougt by the "meatman"...

the same "meatman" sold the crap to the "aah-factors"......


6 yr old made £280

the other 2 made over £600.....bought by idiots who know jack sh1te.......

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what are you trying to prove? sounds like you are having another dig at certain individuals.

Maybe if you actually had a decent conversation with some of the so called 'idiots' you may find they know a little more than you think.
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"The majority of these at any auction go on the meat lorries. It isn't a question of 'saving' or 'rescuing - it's a question of buying only if you are sure you can 'house' and feed and look after the horse(s) in question. No matter how sad they look, how awful the day is, how many meat dealers are present, the question you must ask is do I have the facilities and funds to give whatever I take home a good quality of life?
emw"

Well said but even so I would personally find it hard to see horses and ponies being loaded up for meat.
I just find the idea of eating horse meat distasteful full stop and my view on that will never change, despite the fact that Britain is fast becoming a multi cultured society.

I deplore the live transportation - over long distances - of any animal for consumption be it cows, pigs, sheep, poultry and worse still horses (which I just cannot come to terms with).
The sooner live export and transportation is stopped the better imo!


Furthermore with regard to the original poster revealing all no they have not.
Lot numbers and vague descriptions mean sod all.
When and where did the auction take place?
Who was the seller?
Those are the questions that were not answered in the post.
Therefore how could all have been revealed about the situation?
 
Sorry but it seems to me some people dont read or possibly dont understand the posts made previously.....how on earth can JM07's posts be considered either trick questions or witholding info. Who the dealer/meatman is or was and where the sale was held is immaterial.

As to the comments made about this post being aimed at certain members here....well if you are so convinced that many people would agree with your efforts to 'rescue' how come most of the answers to JM07's question seem to reveal otherwise?

If you are going to post on ANY subject on a forum then you need to be prepared for the fact that some people dont agree with you.
 
I would buy the 6YO as I wouldnt want to lose money etc. Obviously with that kind of limited budget I would imagine you are going there to make a profit rather than save the lives of innocent equines, much as it would pain me to leave the oldies/meat intended there...
 
I don't buy horses to make a profit perhaps some people do. Any horse I buy will be with me for it's entire life which is the reason I got a horse from an auction which my daughter would not outgrow. My other half is shorter than me so therefore in the long term if the daughter lost interest or had to go to uni etc then my partner could ride him or else he would be a hack for me as my other horse is 16.

If had gone to that auction with that amount of money then I would have chosen the 6 year old.
We are not allowed foals/youngsters on the yard and the 19 year old could have a pretty large medical history behind it which on a limited budget could cause problems with insurance and vet bills.

For the record Spaniel yes I can read. The very fact I got a 2:1 degree and very nearly a 1st as well as writing for a large, respected and growing newspaper publication for some years proves that very fact.
I was well aware of the point that JM07 was trying to make but you see my own perspective of journalism is in truth and facts.
Yes we can all speculate and we are all very much guilty of that in one form or another. The so called 'gutter press' has proven that for a number of years.
I wrote for a tabloid in publication size only. It was a regional daily newspaper and not a daily tabloid or broadsheet.
Getting back to the point I was trying to make which others have seemingly ignored or shall I dare say not read the posts correctly ?
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What bemused me was the fact that a post was made with reference to an auction which had taken place in which the lot numbers and approximate sales figures were highlighted.
Why did the poster feel the need not to reveal the name of the auction, the date on which it took place and who the seller was?
If this was made public then readers of this forum could in fact check with the auctioneers that the information being made public on this forum was in fact totally accurate.
 
Maybe so but why not post the information?
If a point was being made about people being foolish enough to add to the meatman's pocket then why not give all the information so that HHO's would be aware of whose name(s)to avoid as a seller at auctions and also which auctions the said person(s) operates at.
 
Christ get over yourself.

Seems to me you are amissing the point....what a shame for a so called professional journalist....but then again.....not surprising given the amount of boll*cks that ends up in the media.

There are a number of people here who know how to research and present facts who dont feel it necessary to flag up their CV to prove a point.
 
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Believe me, the info will be totally accurate, JM is not known for bullsh!tting about!

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thank you weezy......

cazzee...i do not see any point in naming the meatmen in this post.

what has obviously passed you by, is the POINT of this thread...being that the animals that weren't the BEST types of equine, were bought by folk who should of kept their hard earned cash in their pocket...or bid for the 6 yr old who could, but not now, have had a good future.....

i wil not name dealers/meatmen on this forum
get yourself to a sale on a regular basis, you will soon recognise who to avoid/do business with.
 
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That post is actually defamatory in content.

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i wouldn't think it would get passed local magistrates, TBH....,....
 
Ah yes but that is no answer though is it?
How many of the people who actually buy these sad looking individuals from the 'meatman' attend auctions regularly.
Perhaps you or I should start a poll on the forum to see how many auctions HHOs have attended and how many of them actually know who the meatmen are as it would be very interesting to find out just how many do?
For your information though I did see the point of the thread but what has actually been learned from it?
What was your intention when you decided to pose the question about which horse a HHO would buy from a list of options quoted from an actual sale that had taken place?
If it was to make a point then yes you have succeeded.
However nothing has been gained from the post has it?
People have not been 'named' and 'shamed' have they so therefore how would anyone who is not a regular auction goer know which individuals to avoid buying from.
Now if I had made the post then I would have given all the information.
There would be nothing to fear in the case of libel or otherwise if these individuals are in fact connected in the direct slaughter of horses for meat.
Yes point has been made but for what? Absolutely nothing so far as I can read and interpret.
 
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