Woman killed by dog

I heard this on this news, poor woman, my thoughts are with her family. I had never heard of the breed, had to google it. Mastiffs generally are big soft lumps, but the trouble is when they are so big if things go wrong the result can be horrific, as this news shows.
 
as i said terrible story!!! At no point on the news report did it say that the women who died was the owner but dogs are not born dangerous but when muppets get them and do not have the know how to control and look after is when this sort of incident happens.

its like Pitt bulls they are painted to be nasty awful dogs but you see the side of them in america used for fighting and the side of them in this country used for gang culture to attack and intimidate people but in reality they are a lovely little dog if looked after correctly.

doesnt matter whether it be a pug or a rottwieler in the wrong hands can be aggressive but when the power of the bigger dog comes into play it goes from being a painful bite to someone dying.
 
s4sugar said:
50p says it wasn't a Belgian mastiff but a Bandog that had borrowed the name.

Condolences to her family.
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or an alaunt , they were bred to do a job and I admit are calm until they snap. I sadly let a man from stafford have one of my early new generation Plummers years ago, only to find his alaunt/mastiff ripped it in shreds one day over a bone!!! idiot, like I say its not the dogs just bad homing, breeding and training. Why oh why in this day and age would anyone who lives in a row of houses/scheme or similar keep one as a house pet? or does it make its owner look 'ard when they walk it. Had it have been mine I'm afraid the kitchen knife would have won over a phone call to the police armed unit , buggar what anyone said after, at least the wonam would have lived. Whats wrong with these people?
tut tut tut
 
tweedette said:
Had it have been mine I'm afraid the kitchen knife would have won over a phone call to the police armed unit , buggar what anyone said after, at least the wonam would have lived. Whats wrong with these people?
tut tut tut
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quite right no doubt we would be done by the RSPCA for cruelty but a human life should always come above any animal
 
Horrific story!
Cant for a second believe it was a Belgian Mastiff, intrestingly though unlike more popular Mastiffs breeds they are not said to be big soft lumps, quite fiercely protective and vicious toward strangers. Perhaps why the breed died out.
 
Will be interesting to see if a full story comes out about this. It reminds me of the story of the old man a few years ago who's Rottie 'attacked' him. The dog was shot because it was viciously attacking the man. The gentleman sadly died, but as it turned out the old man had collapsed (and died of natural causes a PM revealed) in the street and his dog was trying to pull him and revive him, he was trying to save his owner and he was killed for this.

So very sad for the lady and her family but will be watching to see if future reports come with a different story.
 
Very sad indeed

On the AOL news report a neighbour is quoted saying

''I thought the dog was quite friendly. It was never aggressive from what I remember."
 
So what breed was it? Dogue de Bordeaux?Or as said,one of the new mixes BanDog.Either way the street did`nt exactly look the sort of setting for a big active dog ,did it?Always the owner`s ,never the dog itself, they don`t stand a chance with the homes some of them end up in.:confused:
 
Poor woman and her family. What a dreadful death :( :(


Cuffey said:
Very sad indeed

On the AOL news report a neighbour is quoted saying

''I thought the dog was quite friendly. It was never aggressive from what I remember."
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Radio one have just quoted a neighbour as saying he'd reported the dog in the past!!

They have also reported the name of the bloke they are looking for, who is believed to be the owner - so not the victim.
 
Hmm,maybe a dog warden in South London is in a mess for ignoring complaints here.Exactly the same as the pit bull that killed little Ellie there..loads of ignored warnings over that one ,killing dogs/cats etc,and then the final tragedy.So sad,curious about the breed though..maybe a Boerboel type of dog?
 
What a horror story, so sad.

However, knowing people who own Cane Corsos (italian mastiffs) and Dogo Argentinos I can catergorically say that the dogs themselves are NOT predisposed to aggression and properly brought up are wonderful family dogs.

Tito lives in a top floor apartment block! It has nothing to do with their housing, it has everything to do with their upbringing, discipline and exercise.
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And my friends Dogo RIP boy
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As ever, not the breed .....
 
kitsmas_pudding respect you for the words you wrote in your post and what amazing pictures,,,, its time for the law to look at the human end of the lead, a dog will always learn from the owner, you never get a bad dog, just a bad owner ,,,,,,
 
quirky said:
Gosh, nice to see you having a little sympathy for the dead woman or doesn't she deserve it, being a 'dangerous owner'?

Some people :mad::confused:.
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i dont think it was ment that way?
i do agree. MOST dogs are not born dangerous they are just not trained right and have the potential to "turn" some dogs are nasty even with proper training but they are few and far between (the naturally nasty ones) if that makes sense :confused:
i dont think anyone is trying to say that that poor woman deserved to be killed by the dog. such a shame, and thank goodness no one else in the house was hurt or worse. i hope all her family are ok xxx
 
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andybee98 said:
kitsmas_pudding respect you for the words you wrote in your post and what amazing pictures,,,, its time for the law to look at the human end of the lead, a dog will always learn from the owner, you never get a bad dog, just a bad owner ,,,,,,
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too right,the dog in question spent it`s time chained up outside the back door...the partner/owner,who has turned himself in, appears to deal in drugs..............
 
Poor woman.

Unfortunately what is the truth and what the press publishes are not always the same thing.

Mastiffs are on the whole big gentle giants but as in all breeds you do get the odd one who is more protective/defensive or more aggressive irrespective of their upbringing.
However, whilst big loving lumps when they turn, as they sometimes do on each other I would not like to be on the receiving end.
My dogs are on the whole very gentle. One of them however is defensive and I have to be careful with him. Why is he like this? Probably his breeding but maybe due to other reasons too. My other dogs have all been gentle. My parents had a couple of shepherds that were aggressive towards strangers. One was very ill so we never reallly knew how much that affected him, but the other was just made that way. However with people she knew she was totally trustworthy. Kept the "do as you likeys" out though!:D

So whilst it is easy to say the owners are at fault
it is not always the case. Any dog can turn and if a Mastiff does it can be very dangerous. There are some aggressive Mastiffs around, not many but they do exist. In the right hands they can be managed. But it takes a big strong bloke to hold them. This info refers to English Mastiffs btw not Belgian ones.
 
dozzie said:
Poor woman.

Unfortunately what is the truth and what the press publishes are not always the same thing.

Mastiffs are on the whole big gentle giants but as in all breeds you do get the odd one who is more protective/defensive or more aggressive irrespective of their upbringing.
However, whilst big loving lumps when they turn, as they sometimes do on each other I would not like to be on the receiving end.
My dogs are on the whole very gentle. One of them however is defensive and I have to be careful with him. Why is he like this? Probably his breeding but maybe due to other reasons too. My other dogs have all been gentle. My parents had a couple of shepherds that were aggressive towards strangers. One was very ill so we never reallly knew how much that affected him, but the other was just made that way. However with people she knew she was totally trustworthy. Kept the "do as you likeys" out though!:D

So whilst it is easy to say the owners are at fault
it is not always the case. Any dog can turn and if a Mastiff does it can be very dangerous. There are some aggressive Mastiffs around, not many but they do exist. In the right hands they can be managed. But it takes a big strong bloke to hold them. This info refers to English Mastiffs btw not Belgian ones.
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I agree with the above. My aunt had a Neopolitan Mastiff and for whatever reason, he was not to be trusted. My aunt would not have him in the room with children - if he went for one, the presence of a nearby adult would be irrelevant, they have such powerful jaws and are so heavy.

So no, they are not all 'gentle giants', regardless of the owner, but as the previous poster states, they can be managed.
 
CaveCanem said:
Hmmmm, why do I get the feeling that this dog's origins may lie in South America or one of the Canary islands.....horrible for all concerned :(
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I know what you mean - now Pits are banned these are becoming the breed of choice, presumably because they are different enough in looks for them not to be seized on the 'pitbull type' reasoning. It used to be that pits were being sold as 'Irish staffs' - a code. But these can be seized as it doesn't have to be proven to be a pit, just a pit type.

It's horrific for all involved, woman, dog and for the 5 year old too who probably lost a much loved friend :(
 
Look thru EPupz and view "mastiff"..all the crazy crossing going on..Boerboel/irish staff/cane corso/american bulldog..all crossed willy nilly to produce a bloody huge potential killing machine;then it gets sold a status/protection dog to a muppet in an urban crowded environment..scrote buyer chains it up,baits it to make it "hard"..and THEN ,surprize,the poor thing kills or maims .From it`s conception almost it never stood a chance did it?
Who do I feel sorry for??Oh surely you already know the answer there.:mad:
 
EAST KENT said:
Look thru EPupz and view "mastiff"..all the crazy crossing going on..Boerboel/irish staff/cane corso/american bulldog..all crossed willy nilly to produce a bloody huge potential killing machine;then it gets sold a status/protection dog to a muppet in an urban crowded environment..scrote buyer chains it up,baits it to make it "hard"..and THEN ,surprize,the poor thing kills or maims .From it`s conception almost it never stood a chance did it?
Who do I feel sorry for??Oh surely you already know the answer there.:mad:
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Too much of a coward to do that (look through the sites - but very very sadly, these breeding of truly dangerous dogs seems to be on the increase - the bigger the better. A friend in south London says it is quite common for puppies to be advertised that are clearly meant just as you said it - status/protection ( I also like the term, p**is replacement). I do feel very very sorry for the family of the woman who was killed.

I am really not sure of the answer - as has been said on this board previously, it used to be GSD were the weapon dog of choice and their reputation suffered so badly, now it is the turn of the staffies. While I am seflishly glad that staffies are passing out of the most popular scroats dog, it seems to be now quite rare to actually see a proper staff...
 
they have arrested the owner I thought?

google Belgian mastiff and every description states the dog was aggressive to strangers and other dogs and used to pull carts. now on what planet does a dog like that sound like a good idea in a modern urban home fgs? a huge, guarding, specialist breed? why are people trying to resurrect this breed when any number of mastiff breeds are about already anyway? I feel a bit sorry for the dog but I sure feel much sorrier for the woman mauled to death and the officers who tried in vain to save her. horrible.
 
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