Frances 74
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Vets have said same thing now so we just got to find somewhere else now
Wormer advice
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ycbm
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What metal and where on earth from?. That sounds really frightening.
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Frances 74
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Its 2 that definite cobalt codimum and possibly a 3rd we need more testing but we have a sewge plant next to us I'm not happy vets don't want to listen we said we were not convinced it was worms we told them they said it was 3 horses have died because nobody listened to us
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cadmium?
Frances 74
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Hi weve tested land because local authority said it was clear now its metal reading is 1000 ppb so were doing more exact one colour coded to metal babies cant go out due to risk now looking to move but have 4 babies not easy worse if we still had 7 but we are not giving up on our case for losing 3 young horses due to other sources not what vets said so we keep going for sake of 4 living babies ?
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
It's almost impossible to understand your posts.
When did the LA test and what did they test to try to find?
What metal have you found?
What level is normal?
What level is toxic?
What 'colour coded' test are you doing now?
What malpractice do you intend to sue your vets for? Metal toxicity from grazing is really, really rare, they can't have been expected to know about it, surely?
I'm sorry you lost your youngsters but I think you need to move on, figuratively and literally, and look after the four that are left.
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When did the LA test and what did they test to try to find?
What metal have you found?
What level is normal?
What level is toxic?
What 'colour coded' test are you doing now?
What malpractice do you intend to sue your vets for? Metal toxicity from grazing is really, really rare, they can't have been expected to know about it, surely?
I'm sorry you lost your youngsters but I think you need to move on, figuratively and literally, and look after the four that are left.
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Frances 74
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This is result taken today it's clear indication of metal pb lead so they were poisoned tests weren't done when asked for so I have every intention of making people aware of things any field can have it not just ours it's just awareness shows similar symptoms to worms westgate confirmed it wasnt worms that killed horses we now have proof and will be continueing to go forward however long it takes
PurBee
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That test is for showing general presence of heavy metals and does not give ppm readings.
It’s a general home kit test similar to ones from Osumex, but you’d be better off taking actual soil samples and sending them to a lab for accurate heavy metal readings.
Your vets can then implement chelation therapy if it is metal toxicity for the youngsters based on specific results, as they are still ill.
Better still, can the vets do a blood draw and test for metals in the horses?
Based on soil results for metals, alert the authorities to investigate if it has anything to do with the neighbouring sewerage plant, to prevent others grazing on there and potentially experiencing what you have.
I hope you get the answers you need and your youngsters recover fully.
It’s a general home kit test similar to ones from Osumex, but you’d be better off taking actual soil samples and sending them to a lab for accurate heavy metal readings.
Your vets can then implement chelation therapy if it is metal toxicity for the youngsters based on specific results, as they are still ill.
Better still, can the vets do a blood draw and test for metals in the horses?
Based on soil results for metals, alert the authorities to investigate if it has anything to do with the neighbouring sewerage plant, to prevent others grazing on there and potentially experiencing what you have.
I hope you get the answers you need and your youngsters recover fully.
Frances 74
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Frances 74
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We will be getting a company to come out and do a soil test we have asked vets to do tests they just focused on worms it's to late for 3 but they may have been saved 4 have improved due to loads of time and care from us the owners they will be moved to new yard so they can have a life been out door grazing playing exactly what we wanted for them ?
PurBee
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If your vets are not willing to do more diagnostics like a simple blood draw to check for metals, i’d change vets.
Although, bear in mind that the metals aren‘t necessarily high circulating in blood for a mammal to still be suffering effects of metal toxicity. The liver would be storing it and other glands, thus affecting function and causing symptoms.
Therefore having an accurate soil sample test for metals would help give an indication of root cause, and bloods taken may help confirm the soil sample results.
As already mentioned by posters, you dont seem to have a good rapport with your vets, so seriously consider switching vets, as it sounds like you need their help, as a wormer reaction wouldn’t normally be going on this long, and your youngsters are still ill, from what you’ve said recently.
Although, bear in mind that the metals aren‘t necessarily high circulating in blood for a mammal to still be suffering effects of metal toxicity. The liver would be storing it and other glands, thus affecting function and causing symptoms.
Therefore having an accurate soil sample test for metals would help give an indication of root cause, and bloods taken may help confirm the soil sample results.
As already mentioned by posters, you dont seem to have a good rapport with your vets, so seriously consider switching vets, as it sounds like you need their help, as a wormer reaction wouldn’t normally be going on this long, and your youngsters are still ill, from what you’ve said recently.