Worming after colic

[Cloball]

Vet has OKed it, worm count medium for red worms and medium/high for tape worm. We will be a week down the line from a mild colic and.more than a week from the scary one with no further issues. I'm going to worm with ivermectin and praziquantel and then worm for encysted later when it gets colder as it's still mild here. I'm also supposed to go on holiday on Monday which I could really do with
I'm happy with the vets advice I just really need my hand holding as I really don't want to have to go through that again and I'm terrified of changing anything or even riding at the moment. You guys have been so supportive.

 

[vetsbestfriend]

With a mare at the yard I am on, following a non-descript colic, she was diagnosed with high red worm count via blood test. She was wormed the day after the results received with Equest to get rid of the encysted and emerging red worm that had caused the colic. The vet said it didn't matter what the temperature was, it is the time of year in general.

I hope your horse is ok.

 

[Dino7]

We usually give a shot of protexin 'quick fix' for a couple of days after worming to anything with tummy issues (colic prone or history of ulcers). Helps that most of them like it.

 

[Squeak]

Really hard one, usually I say go with your vet as they're the most knowledgeable and have seen your horse in person etc.

However, I've had three horses colic after worming, two on the same day they were wormed and one within 24 hours. None of them though were at risk of getting colic from worms as they didn't have high worm counts so if the vets think worms could have caused the colic then I'd worm asap to help prevent her getting colic again and so that I could enjoy the holiday otherwise I'd wait a bit until you're back and her stomach has had a chance to settle down.

Obviously others will have had different experiences and your vet is best placed to instruct, I'm just very wary of wormers. Don't use Equest Pramox (no idea if you were planning on it or not), I hadn't heard the horror stories about it until it was too late for me so if I can save just one horse by spreading the word then I'll try.

 

[Cloball]

The benefit of doing it now is I have 4 days off work to stare at her. After I get back from holiday and back to work so I won't be able to micromanage quite as much.

 

[OrangeAndLemon]

Mine colicked after a wormer then developed colitis.

The first worm test after and he was okay but the second showed a worm burden and he needed worming again. I was terrified.

I took vet advice, did it on the Monday of my week off and kept a very close eye on him and he was absolutely fine.

 

[Julia0803]

My vets have previously suggested a shot of buscopan at the time of working if you have any concerns re colic.

It might be worth asking?

 

[Cloball]

So I chickened out doing it earlier and left it for a couple of weeks to settle and we seem to be fine now stresssing to moving to winter grazing which is very green, when will we be out of the woods?

 

[Birker2020]

Adult small red worms plug feed on intestinal tissue. Large numbers can cause harm to the gut wall and cause cases of spasmodic colic. It is thought that a third of all cases of spasmodic colic are caused by small redworm, particularly in young horses.

This is what the vet thought may have been at the route of Baileys spasmodic colics.

Equine worms as a cause of colic

A low level of worm infection can lead to weight loss, poor performance, illness in horses and general off colour behaviour. More seriously worms are one of the most common causes of colic. Studies have shown that the occurrence of general spasmodic colic in horses significantly reduces when...

wormers-direct.co.uk

 

[Britestar]

I too am in n this position.
Elderly cushings horse, had a colic type episode for first time in his life just over 2 weeks ago.
Had an intestinal bleed ( very black poos), and spasms.
Not 100% typical colic, but was treated with buscopan and finadyne ( before we realised about the bleed). Bloods showed nothing wildly out.

Discussed with a specialist and banneds NSAIDS in future just in case. Spoke about potentially worming.

Then 16 days later similar symptoms, high HR, but passing poops, good gut noise, But this time temp of 103. Buscopan and IV abs given, and once again by next morning all normal again.

We've again discussed worming him but need him to be normal for a while before go ahead. Will probably go for panacur 5 day as less aggressive than moxidectin.

Probability is gut lesions due to age/cushings but I'm not prepared to put him through invasive tests to confirm this.

 

[ycbm]

Vet has OKed it, worm count medium for red worms and medium/high for tape worm. We will be a week down the line from a mild colic and.more than a week from the scary one with no further issues. I'm going to worm with ivermectin and praziquantel and then worm for encysted later when it gets colder as it's still mild here. I'm also supposed to go on holiday on Monday which I could really do with
I'm happy with the vets advice I just really need my hand holding as I really don't want to have to go through that again and I'm terrified of changing anything or even riding at the moment. You guys have been so supportive.

If it helps that is exactly what I am just doing. Ivermectin/Praziquantel yesterday and Moxidectin alone after the frost arrives.

The colic could have been caused by tapeworm, maybe, (it's well known as a cause) so best to get that done.
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[PinkvSantaboots]

Just don't use pramox do it separately.

I gave mine equimax yesterday which is the same as ycbm has used then I do an equest in winter so basically all the same.

 

[Cloball]

That's what I thought wormed with ivermectin/praziquantel Saturday and hopped about nervously for 48 hours. I waited an extra 10 days to let things settle. I plan on moxidectin when we've had some sustained cold weather. My next stress is moving to the winter field as I was hoping it would look less green by now

 

[Chianti]

So I chickened out doing it earlier and left it for a couple of weeks to settle and we seem to be fine now stresssing to moving to winter grazing which is very green, when will we be out of the woods?

Reading your posts I feel that we could be related. In the summer I went through the same ' I've got to worm' trauma - spent a fortune on new Science Supplements prebiotics supplement , which he wouldn't eat, - and am just about to start the ' will he get colic/laminitis on the standing hay paddock' ? I'm never out of the woods- I'm camped there.

 

[Cloball]

Reading your posts I feel that we could be related. In the summer I went through the same ' I've got to worm' trauma - spent a fortune on new Science Supplements prebiotics supplement , which he wouldn't eat, - and am just about to start the ' will he get colic/laminitis on the standing hay paddock' ? I'm never out of the woods- I'm camped there.

It does make me feel better I'm not the only one October has been a very stressful month I feel like a bad horse owner this month!

 

[Melandmary]

I called my vet out when my pony Co licked last winter. She asked if I had wormed yet but I was waiting for a hard frost. She advised me to worm her asap. I did query doing so soon after colic but she reassured me she would be fine- sure enough she had a red worm burden. It is such a worry using harsh chemicals after a colic but that sounds a good idea what others have suggested in using protexin to help. I used equest pramox which I always am a little fearful of. I have just signed up with west gate labs for their testing program as I am worried that since my field flooded there will be a higher risk of them getting parasites and that includes 2 tapeworm tests so fingers crossed I can avoid the yearly pramox worry if they don’t need it. Horse ownership is just a constant state of worry! Hope you get to enjoy your holiday

 

[Squeak]

I called my vet out when my pony Co licked last winter. She asked if I had wormed yet but I was waiting for a hard frost. She advised me to worm her asap. I did query doing so soon after colic but she reassured me she would be fine- sure enough she had a red worm burden. It is such a worry using harsh chemicals after a colic but that sounds a good idea what others have suggested in using protexin to help. I used equest pramox which I always am a little fearful of. I have just signed up with west gate labs for their testing program as I am worried that since my field flooded there will be a higher risk of them getting parasites and that includes 2 tapeworm tests so fingers crossed I can avoid the yearly pramox worry if they don’t need it. Horse ownership is just a constant state of worry! Hope you get to enjoy your holiday

There are others wormers that you can use instead of pramox. My horse, which had never had colic before and didn’t have a worm burden, colicked and died within 48 hours of being given pramox. After it happened I heard other stories of similar happening with Pramox. Please, please don’t use it.

 

[Melandmary]

I have always used that one in winter as I usually have a low egg count for my ponies but never done a tapeworm test. I read on this forum last year about pramox so had been dillydallying over what wormer to use when Mary colicked. In readiness this winter I have joined the west gate program that includes all the tests so that I can avoid using pramox again and get the advice on what wormer I need to use if any. I had actually been using poo post but this program will take the worry out of when and what to test for

 

[Cloball]

I called my vet out when my pony Co licked last winter. She asked if I had wormed yet but I was waiting for a hard frost. She advised me to worm her asap. I did query doing so soon after colic but she reassured me she would be fine- sure enough she had a red worm burden. It is such a worry using harsh chemicals after a colic but that sounds a good idea what others have suggested in using protexin to help. I used equest pramox which I always am a little fearful of. I have just signed up with west gate labs for their testing program as I am worried that since my field flooded there will be a higher risk of them getting parasites and that includes 2 tapeworm tests so fingers crossed I can avoid the yearly pramox worry if they don’t need it. Horse ownership is just a constant state of worry! Hope you get to enjoy your holiday

It is isn't it this week's worry has been the winter files being so lush but we seem to be managing with a slow introduction. I feel like the most high maintenance livery though! The other work flexible hours and are DIY. It's a total mine field. In less than a year we've had feather mites, a weird reaction to an insect bite on the face and colic!