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I've only once managed to get my boy to take his wormer straight into his mouth, last time he spat it out and I had to scoop it up and smear it on his tongue which he wasn't amused about. This time I was advised to put it in his feed - DISASTER - he wouldn't touch his food at all! So here's my question - can I give him his feed again tomorrow mixed with some apple juice or something sweet to disguse the taste - will the wormer still be ok or should I buy some more and give it to him another way - if so ideas gratefully received
 
I would buy a new tube and try again. You could try hiding it in a jam sandwich, but he may smell the wormer and not eat it. Have you thought about buying a worming bit? If it's a regular problem you will bo so thankful.
Luckily I have only had one bad to worm, and either I just had to catch her by surprise - no second chances - or I spent the week before syringing her from an empty wormer tube filled with apple sauce.Next day, wormer, another day of apple sauce.
 
Donkeymad said:
I would buy a new tube and try again. You could try hiding it in a jam sandwich, but he may smell the wormer and not eat it. Have you thought about buying a worming bit? If it's a regular problem you will bo so thankful.
Luckily I have only had one bad to worm, and either I just had to catch her by surprise - no second chances - or I spent the week before syringing her from an empty wormer tube filled with apple sauce.Next day, wormer, another day of apple sauce.
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MY foal and pony great no problems my Big mare is a wuss so have to grab her top lip as if in a twitch then stuff it in when shes calm doesnt help that shes big and has to have one and abit :eek: much prefer powders and a couple of drops of peppermint food essence ;)
 
I wimped out and asked intructor to show me how to do it - she's had plenty of practise. She held pony's headcollar under chin, lifted head by headcollar, and it was in and down his throat before he had a chance to think about it, or I to see how she did it. He did look surprised! Have wormcounted since and will delagate again should/when we need to I think!
 
the method that has always worked for me ( was taught this by a fabulous irish stud groom years ago) is this:
stand to your horses left, and place your right hand under his chin, holding the underside of the headcollar noseband
shove the syringe (in your left hand) into the left corner of his mouth, and as you push the plunger, lift up his head with your right hand
when it's all in, drop the syringe, and (still holding his head up above yours) rub his throat from the point just between his cheek bones down to the middle of his chest, in loooong smooth movements from head to hoof,
do that about 5 times, and then let go, unless he is superman, he will have swallowed enough to get rid of wormies!
 
I hold his headcollar under his chin, put the wormer in his mouth and one it is all in his mouth I put his head up as high as I can, then whilst doing this a rub his throat until he swallows it ;) He's such a muppet and at 17hh it's quite difficult :p
 
one of ours is not too keen so i hold his tounge in one hand and have the syringe in the other,do it quick right down the back of the mouth before he cottons on.
 
With my foal I smothered it with peanut butter the first time I used one and now he goes mental every time he sees the wormer. He knows his favourite treat in the world is coming and it bordering on too keen now ;)
 
With difficult horses I stand on left side, put right thumb under chin and 4 fingers i his mouth from the right hand side. where the bit would sit above the tongue- therefore out of the way of teeth! Left hand puts syringe in corner of mouth- and as far back as I can get it and squirt. It is designed to "stick" on to the mouth and takes 10/15 mins to dissapear so getting it in back of throat as apposed to tongue less chance for it to come back up. Also make sure you remove all feed/grass/hay from pony 15min before if he doesnt like it as if he spits that out some could be stuck on.

In one tube of wormer about a 5penny worth drop actually has the wormer the rest is bulk so it is really important he gets enough- if your worried give him whole tube then if he does drop a bit you should be covered- better to over worm than under else they will build resistance-
 
You could also try the virbac equimax and eraquell tablets (they are supposed to be given as a treat, 1 tablet = 100Kg dosing), for most of the year, they do all but encysted redworm so you'd need to do at least once a year with pramox or panacur 5 day treatment (would go for pramox otherwise you'll have dosing problems daily for 5 days!)

Virbac also do placeabo tablets you can give first to see if your horse will eat them.

Good luck.
 
any tips for a youngster (so not used to a bit) who is VERY wise to it. As soon as the syringe touches the corner of his mouth he pulls back very sharply and is already 5 m away from you! (formerly wild nf pony by the way) He can smell it a mile off and wont touch it in his feed and is now very suspicious.

Previously i could get it in his mouth if i was super quick but he is so wise to it now! and the wormer that he needs now is pramox which is very smelly!

....they do like to test us!
 
Panacure do a flavoured 5 day one (think its apple) i know SCATS do it but you might have to hunt around on web to find it. I always shove it an the side of mough and hold there head right up until they HAVE to swallow. again make sure no hay or food in mouth before hand otherwise they drop it back out. OR make sure they are really hungry and then put it in a scoop of feed if theu're hungy they will eat it.
 
My two year old clamps his mouth and lips at the sight of a syringe and turns into a raging beast. This time, I used cunning and guile and it worked a treat.
Find carrot large enough to insert wormer syringe. Use an apple corer to make a tube down the centre of aforementioned carrot, insert syringe into carrot, place carrot into greedy-boys mouth, squirt ;)
 
Also to add to my post re: equimax tablets.

Strongid also do a caramel flavour paste, the tb foals used to lick it off the end of the syringe! They loved it!
 
Mine can be tricky to worm when she wants to be and daughters pony is a menace ...i stand next to them, reach round cover the eye on the side i'm going to stick the wormer in with my hand, daughter then passes me the syringe quickly and pop it in quick then hold their head up and rub throat til they swallw. A friend showed me this tactic and it always works with mine.
 
sam4321 said:
any tips for a youngster (so not used to a bit) who is VERY wise to it. As soon as the syringe touches the corner of his mouth he pulls back very sharply and is already 5 m away from you! (formerly wild nf pony by the way) He can smell it a mile off and wont touch it in his feed and is now very suspicious.

Previously i could get it in his mouth if i was super quick but he is so wise to it now! and the wormer that he needs now is pramox which is very smelly!

....they do like to test us!
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Enlist a helper.START with pony backed into a corner. Have helper hold headcollar & tongue, hold headcollar yourself as well. Push syringe as far back as possible and squirt as fast as possible. Lift chin as instructed above. This worked for us with our VERY bolshy 15.3 hh Appaloosa mare, who could lift her head well above ours. She thought she was winning when she got her head up but actually of course, it served our purpose well. You really do have to start with determination and keep it up until the job is done.
 
One of mine will not take it, I have to mix it up REAL GOOD into his feed, plus give him slighty more feed and add things like apples etc, for him to eat it.
 
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