Worming Programme

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Hi

Last year I wormed with the Equest brand as it was really straight forward to use.
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However this year I believe i need to change brands and im very confused.
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Which really is'nt very difficult
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So can anyone please recommend a programme for the year.

Many Thanks
 
First of all, I would do faecal egg count if I was in your situation. It cost you around £10 to do it and it gives you how many worm eggs present per gram of faeces. If it exceeds more than 200 eggs per gram (epg), then worming is recommended. If it is less than 200 epg, I dont think you need to worm your horse. Having said that, faecal egg count doesnt show encysted larval stage of small red worms, tapeworms and bots, so you got to be careful.

If you want to carry on worming all year around....
Jan - Single dose of ivermectin or moxidectin based wormers to do bots. If you used Equest Pramox in Non/Dec 2009, you dont need to do it.

Feb/(March) - Single dose of moxidectin or 5day course of benzimidazoles to treat encysted small red worms. (Be careful using benzimidazoles as reisistance (of worms) against this type of drugs is commonly seen in U.K.

Mar/April/May - Single dose of praziquantel or double dose of pyrantel based wormers to treat tapeworms.

Jun-Nov - moxidectin every 13 weeks or ivermectin every 8 - 10 weeks or pyrantel every 4 - 8 weeks or benzimidazoles every 6 weeks to treat roundworms during this period. (again be careful benzimidazoles products!)

Oct/Nov - Again single dose of moxidectin or 5day course of benzimidazoles to treat encysted small red worms. Plus, single dose of praziquantel or double dose of pyrantel based wormers to treat tapeworms.

Your vet and local SQP (who is qualified to sell wormers to you) in the shop knows which brand contains which drug type(s), so ask them! People often make a mistake not asking these professions to decide the worming programme!

Hope this helps you a bit and happy worming!
 
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This is what we do...Simple!
January...Equest
April........Pramox
July..........Equest
October....Pramox

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Good...but you can't do that every year, you have to change programmes to avoid resistance.....which is a bummer as its nice and simple
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Equestrian92 thats what i did last year but as the other posts say you need to change. I find it confusing have to say. Jc1 that very helpful ill have a look at there site today.
 
You can use Equest/Pramox for at least three years running with no problem.
 
Every horse is different and they have different resistant levels so three years running may create issues. The chemicals in Equest (moxidectin) have been found to be less effective as it used to be even when rotated with other treatments. They have also shown signs of working for less than the 13 weeks which is the coverage rate recommended. I suggested you look for a programme that is individual to your horse and its circumstances.
 
woah you might need to rephrase that......

horses have resistance levels to wormers
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is that not the worms and hence you are meaning that horses/populations have different worm populations which have variable resistance to wormers, though there isnt reported resistance to moxidectin in this country so I am not really sure what you are getting at there
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I dont really think the issue of resistance is anything to do with horses moreover the selection pressure applied to the worms.

When you say less effective what do you actually mean, killing less worms, that would imply resistance? Havent heard about that, do you have a link?

I would agree that spaces between dosing are probably highly variable if you look at individual horses depending on the grazing system.
 
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I know I should rephrase it but the BVA do a much better job within their guidance on using wormers- see their web site and new campaign to stop blanket worming.
 
sorry not getting at you too much, I just know that people find the topic very confusing as it is!

thanks
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yes I was assuming you were talking UK and I like to keep my eye on what is going on (my only research worm history is sheep!) . I did know about the problems with MLs in the USA/canada and aware of big issues on farms in mexico, a situation we certainly want to avoid in the future.

I didnt realise the BVA had produced something too, i will have a look as it there are probably plenty of times I could link to it on here.
 
The BVA advice is not equine specific but does spell out the message of targetting those animals needing wormed rather than blanket worming and that resistance is increasing etc

http://www.bva.co.uk/newsroom/1698.aspx

I cant fill in the H&H Question because my option is worm egg count through summer, use tapeworm dose once a year--autumn and worm for encysted in winter.
Summer worming was not necessary last year.

My herd is 3 on 10 acres grazed by sheep in summer, one newcomer was wormed soon after arrival--during quarantine.
 
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