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Just wondering how often you worm, what do you worm, do you use a rotation of different worm doses (as a precaution for resistance)
does anyone inject, what are the feelings on injecting ( I have my own opinions on that one!)
does anyone tube? And if so, how often do you do it?

Just been around a few different yards recently and they all have their own ways of doing things. Just wondering what folk here thought.

Also, what would folk think about vaccinating against worms rather than having to dose?
 
Ellie is done (other than last time, when we got a bit lacadaisical - oops!) every 8-12 weeks (dependent on what we are using). We have always used paste, never injection, but last time we used granules as she always likes to spit paste back at us, no matter how much you massage her throat to get it down. granules seemed to work much better; a bit of garlic and carrot, and she didnt even know they were there!

not sure about vaccinating against worms; didnt know you could TBH!!!!!
 
You can't ..... yet..... there si a lot of work being done in the development of vaccines for worms so that you don't have to worm. thing is that the vaccine might only be affective against one type of worm so it might be a while yet before its ready to come to market as practical vaccine.

I was just wondering about the injecting more than anything else as it seems quite common practice when actually its not licenced for use in horses and continued use really increases the chances of ivermectin resistance which is such a worrying thing.

thanks for your reply!
 
My horses have a field to themselves so I don't worm as per the manufacturers recomendations but I treat the key problems at suitable times of the year (eg tapeworm in July or November, bots December, red worm novemebr or February). I have worm counts done approx. twice a year and worm according to my horses needs. Obviously anything new that comes in gets wormed properly before it goes out with my usualy residents. When I worm, I try to use the most broad spectrum wormer that also kills whatever it is the right time of year for to keep worming down to a minimum - that way you have less problems with resistance but the worm counts let me know if there is a worm burden that I need to be aware of. Strictly speaking not correct practise I know, but my horses are all thriving on it and I rarely have any concerns from the worm counts so I must be doing something right!
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Ditto. I actually rarely worm, except for the specifics that don't show in worm counts, such as tapeworm. If I do need to worm I like to use Equest and/or Equitape. If I were worming regularly as per instrctions of wormer, I would change the drug (Not the brand/name) every year.
 
My lot get paste every 3-4 months, simply cause they are out with other horses that dont get wormed grrr.

Cant remember the name of the wormer, promax i think.
 
Just wondering how often you worm, EVERY 13 WEEKS

what do you worm, I USE EQUEST OR PROMAX

do you use a rotation of different worm doses (as a precaution for resistance) YES TWO YEARS ON EQUEST AND THEN A DIFFERENT ONE IN BETWEEN


does anyone inject, what are the feelings on injecting ( I have my own opinions on that one!)NO.NOTHING OUT THERE YET.

does anyone tube? And if so, how often do you do it?

Also, what would folk think about vaccinating against worms rather than having to dose? NOT SURE HOW THIS WOULD WORK-HAVING PARASITES IN THE GUT.HOW DO YOU GET PROMOTION OF IMMUNE RESPONSE VIA AN INACTIVE VIRUS AGAINST WORMS?!NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE ASKING TEEHEE.
 
Amandaco2 not sure what you are talking about with inactive viruses but to make a vaccine against a parasite you target an essential protein in the parasite for example a protein that the parasite uses in digestion. these proteins are often expressed in the gut of the worm. So, basically, you use the protein as the vaccine and the horse generates antibody to it. Then when the worm takes a blood meal, the antibodies are in the blood and attach to the protein in the worm and zap the worm.

As regards injecting, there is nothing licenced for use in horses but horses are regularly injected with ivermection - licenced for use in cattle. It is common place in the racing industry.

thanks for your reponse!
 
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