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Bought a 10mo filly from a stud last week. Gave her a week to settle on new diet before worming (she has been kept in since we got her)
Yesterday, designated day of worming her poos were really loose and I was horrified to find live worms in her poos, hadnt noticed any previous.
I wormed her with Eraquell and today each pile had about 8 or 10 dead ones in it.
By size and colour etc reckoning they are pinworm.
Intend worming her again next weekend.
Any other advice etc.
 
Feed her a probiotic to help her cope with the chemicals you are putting into her, especially as she is passing a large worm burden. I would use Coligone from H Bradshaw, but as it would take a while to come by post you might be better getting Pink Powder or Synbiozyme from your local feed merchant.

Eraquell doesn't kill encysted redworm or tapeworm. If your horse is passing one kind of worm she may have a host of others. Have you asked the vet for advice? You may need to give something like Pramox to be sure everything is dealt with.
 
I would worm with Equest as that will cover encycsted inhibited and larval stages of small redworm, arterial stage large redworm and bots.

Worming with Pramox would be a waste of money ATM. Tapeworms are encycsted at this time of year and the active ingredient in Pramox would be ineffective against them.
 
you could have a chat with a worming diagnostic center, they could advise you on whats best to help her as ,bless ,she has obv got a lot (very common in young horses). I was told that equest is quite harsh on youngster tummies so would praps have a chat with diagnostic center or your vets!
 
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Worming with Pramox would be a waste of money ATM. Tapeworms are encycsted at this time of year and the active ingredient in Pramox would be ineffective against them.

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Having had an ELISA blood test for tapeworm in January that showed a high result, my vet advised me to worm with Pramox. The rest of the yard were also advised by a different vet to worm with Pramox as they were on the same grazing.
 
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I would worm with Equest as that will cover encycsted inhibited and larval stages of small redworm, arterial stage large redworm and bots.

Worming with Pramox would be a waste of money ATM. Tapeworms are encycsted at this time of year and the active ingredient in Pramox would be ineffective against them.

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Where on earth have you got your information????? If this were my pony i would be worming with panacur guard and then following up with equest.
You must be thinking of encysted small redworm (cyatastomes) over the winter months the larvae encyst into the gut wall, waiting for a trigger, either a change in the season, or the animal undergoing stress, which will cause them to emerge enmasse, causing damage to the gut wall, severe Diarrhoea, weight loss and in severe cases death.
Equest pramox treats these worms and it's also combined with a drug called praziquantel that treats all 3 species of tapeworms that affect horses.......Tapeworms are usually treated twice a year due to their exceptionally long life cycle which requires an imtermediate host......

I would be very careful using pramox in something with such a heavy worm burden straight away as it's so effective it may cause a blockage with all the worms coming away at once, hence the 5 day guard first to shift some of the burden....
 
"provides effective treatment and control of the following parasites of horses and donkeys:
Large strongyles
Strongylus vulgaris (adults and arterial larval stages), S. edentatus (adults and tissue larval stages), S. equinus (adults), Triodontophorus spp. (adults), T. brevicauda, T. serratus, Craterostomum acuticaudatum (adults).
Small strongyles
Adult and immature (fourth stage larvae) small strongyles or cyathostomes, including benzimidazole-resistant strains: Coronocyclus spp., including C. coronatus, C. labiatus, C. labratus; Cyathostomum spp., including C. catinatum, C. pateratum; Cylicocyclus spp., including C. ashworthi, C. elongatus, C. insigne, C. lepostomum, C. nassatus, C. radiatus; Cylicostephanus spp., including C. asymetricus, C. bidentatus, C. calicatus, C. goldi, C. longibursatus, C. minutus; Cylicodontophorus spp., including C. bicornatus; Gyalocephalus capitatus; Parapoteriostomum spp. including P. euproctus, P. mettami; Petrovinema spp. including P. poculatum; Poteriostomum spp. including P. imparidentatum.
Lungworms (adults and immatures)
Dictyocaulus arnfieldi
Pinworms (adults and immatures)
Oxyuris equi
Ascarids (adults and immature)
Parascaris equorum
Hairworms (adults)
Trichostrongylus axei
Large-mouth stomach worms (adults)
Habronema muscae
Neck threadworms (microfilariae)
Onchocerca spp.
Intestinal threadworms (adults)
Strongyloides westeri
Stomach bots
Oral and gastric stages of Gastrophilus spp."


This is from an eqvalan data sheet - it's exactly the same drug - ivermectin - that's in eraquell and exactly the same concentration.

Ivermectin <font color="red"> </font> does kill immature stages of cyathostomes, maybe not every single one but enough to make a difference (75% minimum quoted) - these are the sneaky little ones that encyst and cause all the problems.

I think the ones you are talking about even though you say "pinworms" I think you might mean parascaris equorum - "ascarids" they look like long roled out bits of manky chewing gum - from about 2-20cms and sometimes chucked out alive - YAK!!

These are really common in babies - picked up really easily but do very little damage. (only when in huge numbers and you would have seen more coming out).

My concern is that you are likely to worm again way too soon - eraquell states at not less than 30 days even in the most extreme cases - you don't need to and you can cause problems such as diarrhoea by doing so.

You have now wormed for everything but tapeworm - so I would suggest just do tapeworm - with equitape only.

You've done tapeworm then so you can either use equest (not the equest pramox - you don't need the pramox bit if you use equitape) or stay on eraquell and I wouldn't recommend before 6 weeks from the last one.

Sorry this is so long - just wanted you to have full info!
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Alternatively ring your vet
 
Thanks for your help folks
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Today I found a total of 4 dead ones and no live ones.
She seems a lot happier. Still a bit loose in her droppings but happy &amp; bright in herself.
I think the Eraquell has done a good job and will keep a close eye on what she is producing.
Just makes me so annoyed that people breed good quality stock and dont worm them or feed them properly.
 
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