PennywithHenry
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As I was always told from a very early age;
If you can't get on and off it from the ground then you can't ride it...'
If you can't get on and off it from the ground then you can't ride it...'
Worst Hack Ever And Riding School Numpties Rant!!
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katie_southwest
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As I was always told from a very early age;
If you can't get on and off it from the ground then you can't ride it...'
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Doesnt quite apply to us 5 foot nothings im afraid
Could get on if I put my stirrups down about 4 holes! But kinder on horseys back to get on from something
I think the main question with this post is 'Is the girl actually a novice?'
If she is then she shouldnt of been expected to open gates etc as it can be tricky if you dont do it often. If she isnt a novice then it was just a bit silly of her to let the horses go and probably looking back now she realises
We all do silly things sometimes
As I was always told from a very early age;
If you can't get on and off it from the ground then you can't ride it...'
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Doesnt quite apply to us 5 foot nothings im afraid
Could get on if I put my stirrups down about 4 holes! But kinder on horseys back to get on from something
I think the main question with this post is 'Is the girl actually a novice?'
If she is then she shouldnt of been expected to open gates etc as it can be tricky if you dont do it often. If she isnt a novice then it was just a bit silly of her to let the horses go and probably looking back now she realises
We all do silly things sometimes
Shannagolden
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Sorry love but if you can't manage your flighty, bargy TB then you shouldn't be riding out. RSN might have been foolish but at least she is taking lessons. Would it have killed you to get off and help instead of doling out instructions. Teach your bloody horse some manners before you inflict it on the non-horsey society.
Natch
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Ooookay everybody calm down. Thankfully it sounds like nobody got hurt, and the OP has had quite enough rap for their attitude on here towards "RSN".
We all have to start somewhere, it doesn't sound like a very good combination of horse and riders, it went a bit wrong, hopefully all have learnt a lesson
We all have to start somewhere, it doesn't sound like a very good combination of horse and riders, it went a bit wrong, hopefully all have learnt a lesson
chillidragon
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Poor riding school girl.
[/ QUOTE ]POOR RIDING SCHOOL GIRL!!
more like poor sarahandautumn and friend
No matter how little riding you have done outside a riding school (getting on, riding, getting off) I would hope that after much much less than five years that you would know not to let go of a horse on a road!! Its just bizarre. Especially after being told to hold horses.
[/ QUOTE ]I stand by my original sentiment. Consider, the chances are, five years of riding school experience will be working against her by telling her that horses stand like unblinking zombies no matter what is happening around them. Snatch her out of that familiar situation and put her on the road, in a thunderstorm, responsible for a newly broken cob, accompanied by two badly-behaved thoroughbreds and flustered by a gate that won't open. When that doesn't work out she then has a bargy 16hh horse dumped on her which promptly panics and bolts. Did the OP truly expect that if she had hung on she would have somehow been able to stop it? I take issue with the riding school girl being cast as responsible for not only her own cob, but also the two stupid thoroughbreds and the gate simply because the 'experienced' people were unable to control their own horses adequately. So I'll say it again: poor riding school girl.
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Poor riding school girl.
[/ QUOTE ]POOR RIDING SCHOOL GIRL!!
[/ QUOTE ]I stand by my original sentiment. Consider, the chances are, five years of riding school experience will be working against her by telling her that horses stand like unblinking zombies no matter what is happening around them. Snatch her out of that familiar situation and put her on the road, in a thunderstorm, responsible for a newly broken cob, accompanied by two badly-behaved thoroughbreds and flustered by a gate that won't open. When that doesn't work out she then has a bargy 16hh horse dumped on her which promptly panics and bolts. Did the OP truly expect that if she had hung on she would have somehow been able to stop it? I take issue with the riding school girl being cast as responsible for not only her own cob, but also the two stupid thoroughbreds and the gate simply because the 'experienced' people were unable to control their own horses adequately. So I'll say it again: poor riding school girl.
OWLIE185
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I hope that everyone concerned has learned by this incident. It could have been far worse with horses, riders and other members of the public having received injuries.
The thoroughbreds and their riders should be taught better manners and not allowed out of the yard till they have as they are clearly a danger to the public at large.
The cob sounds a delight and it's rider just needs some more hands on experience.
The thoroughbreds and their riders should be taught better manners and not allowed out of the yard till they have as they are clearly a danger to the public at large.
The cob sounds a delight and it's rider just needs some more hands on experience.
bhpride
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Not very nice, everyone makes mistakes mainly through inexperience. I feel like I've been launched back in time reading that post.
I spent the best part of 11 years at riding schools before I bought a horse and personally I feel it was very restricting experience wise - I never once hacked out by myself for example. I hope to god I never again meet anyone with the sort of attitude displayed in this post.
Kenzo
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I don't think there is a blame factor here, owning and riding horses be it TB's or cobs.... there is always a risk and an accident waiting to happen at some point, I just say your lucky if you've not had one so far.
As for a clap of thunder...well we can't change what the weather throws at us or how a horse re-acts to it.
Sometimes we all have to make calculated risks, I've let go of my horse before if I've gotten into a sticky situation where I've either needed to assist a friend be it from them falling off etc but have taken the horses character/experience into consideration and if its relatively save to do so and I condier myself to be a very careful horse owner.
As for the Riding School Numpty part...what is one of these? I know at my riding school when I was little we hacked out just as much as we spent time confined to the four coners of the ménage...and we learnt to ride on a variety of horses and wick little ponies too, they wernt all cobs loll! its what made us good riders, its not all about figers of 8, technical jargon and jumping. Thats the reason my dad too me and not my mun, she'd of had a heart attack if she knew half the goings on that happened lol!
We used to hack out over main roads, railway bridges, go for gallops across open fields and many a time a horse woud shy at a cow in a field and someone would come a cropper or a horse would tank off with someone, again this is what made us all realise what is involved in owning, riding and taking responsiblely for your horse and yourself plus riding with balls!
If that makes me a Riding School Numpty...then I'm proud to be one.
As for a clap of thunder...well we can't change what the weather throws at us or how a horse re-acts to it.
Sometimes we all have to make calculated risks, I've let go of my horse before if I've gotten into a sticky situation where I've either needed to assist a friend be it from them falling off etc but have taken the horses character/experience into consideration and if its relatively save to do so and I condier myself to be a very careful horse owner.
As for the Riding School Numpty part...what is one of these? I know at my riding school when I was little we hacked out just as much as we spent time confined to the four coners of the ménage...and we learnt to ride on a variety of horses and wick little ponies too, they wernt all cobs loll! its what made us good riders, its not all about figers of 8, technical jargon and jumping. Thats the reason my dad too me and not my mun, she'd of had a heart attack if she knew half the goings on that happened lol!
We used to hack out over main roads, railway bridges, go for gallops across open fields and many a time a horse woud shy at a cow in a field and someone would come a cropper or a horse would tank off with someone, again this is what made us all realise what is involved in owning, riding and taking responsiblely for your horse and yourself plus riding with balls!
If that makes me a Riding School Numpty...then I'm proud to be one.
Ziggy_
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I'm sorry maybe I didn't exactly make myself clear in my first post. I didn't take it out on her or even blame her in person but she didn't once apologise for letting someone else's horse loose on the road which is what really wound me up.
She isn't as novicey as the post might appear - she has done stable management courses, all that sort of thing and has the cob on loan and handles him fine. He is an absolute sweetheart and ridden by kids despite his age.
Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
She isn't as novicey as the post might appear - she has done stable management courses, all that sort of thing and has the cob on loan and handles him fine. He is an absolute sweetheart and ridden by kids despite his age.
Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
Kenzo
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There is nothing wrong with being annoyed, at the end of the day your horse is your baby and anything or any person that you believe at the time that may of put your horse at risk then your bound to be mad and entitled to let of steam a bit...even if it might not of been their fault, emotions are high and people don't always act how they should in an irate situation perhaps for example your friend and perhaps how you worded your post.
Sometimes it takes us a a few days to put things into perspective and simmer a down a little.
I was not having a go at you sarahandautum or at your friend, only you were there at the time, therefore I wouldn't not judge. take sides or pin the blame, I just wanted to take the opportunity to phrase my riding school and show that not all riding establishments are the same even if they do offer road safety and various stable managemnt courses, life if the best lesson learned even if you do learn the hard way.
Big up to all you RSN's ...your not geeks your super cool lol
Sometimes it takes us a a few days to put things into perspective and simmer a down a little.
I was not having a go at you sarahandautum or at your friend, only you were there at the time, therefore I wouldn't not judge. take sides or pin the blame, I just wanted to take the opportunity to phrase my riding school and show that not all riding establishments are the same even if they do offer road safety and various stable managemnt courses, life if the best lesson learned even if you do learn the hard way.
Big up to all you RSN's ...your not geeks your super cool lol
Shilasdair
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Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
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Yes, you are right.
I often get off and let horses go...once I've overhorsed myself on the way out, I find it's a quicker way back.
Respect to you for being the only poster on here who wouldn't let a horse loose on the main road.
You must be a very experienced rider....not a riding school numpty, thank Devil.
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Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
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Yes, you are right.
I often get off and let horses go...once I've overhorsed myself on the way out, I find it's a quicker way back.
Respect to you for being the only poster on here who wouldn't let a horse loose on the main road.
You must be a very experienced rider....not a riding school numpty, thank Devil.
S
Flibble
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See thats the trouble with forums people can only read the words what are writ not the bits in between.
I think it just needs to be put dwon to experience. I was on a RS hack once being back marker on my own horse.
A nervous lady baled out from her trustworthy cob because she didnt like it trotting too fast. She let the reins go and ran away.
She wouldnt get on anything else so I led her horse home.
In this case you have to feel sorry for someone who finds life and horses and riding that stressful.
I think we should all sit down now and have a nice cup of Tea.
I think it just needs to be put dwon to experience. I was on a RS hack once being back marker on my own horse.
A nervous lady baled out from her trustworthy cob because she didnt like it trotting too fast. She let the reins go and ran away.
She wouldnt get on anything else so I led her horse home.
In this case you have to feel sorry for someone who finds life and horses and riding that stressful.
I think we should all sit down now and have a nice cup of Tea.
ShadowFlame
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I'm sorry maybe I didn't exactly make myself clear in my first post. I didn't take it out on her or even blame her in person but she didn't once apologise for letting someone else's horse loose on the road which is what really wound me up.
She isn't as novicey as the post might appear - she has done stable management courses, all that sort of thing and has the cob on loan and handles him fine. He is an absolute sweetheart and ridden by kids despite his age.
Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
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Learn to mount from the ground then? I used to loan a 17hh TB/ID, I'm 5'6 and I was always the one to get off to do gates/pick up things hacking partners had dropped/etc.
I'm sorry maybe I didn't exactly make myself clear in my first post. I didn't take it out on her or even blame her in person but she didn't once apologise for letting someone else's horse loose on the road which is what really wound me up.
She isn't as novicey as the post might appear - she has done stable management courses, all that sort of thing and has the cob on loan and handles him fine. He is an absolute sweetheart and ridden by kids despite his age.
Nor are the 2 TBs dangerous, its just that when you're 5'4'' and your horse is approaching 16.3hh I'd prefer not to get off out hacking as I struggle to get back on. My friends horse has had back problems and can't be mounted from the ground so we generally hack out with someone capable who can open gates etc, which this girl assured us she was.
And yes, I have had a horse that decided to flip half way down the road and start broncing. I got off and led him home, all 16hh of him, while he reared and lashed out with his front legs at me. (he had an undiagnosed back problem). He wasn't mine, he didn't even have an owner, but I wasn't going to let him go and cause an accident or kill himself. Maybe everyone else would have?!
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Learn to mount from the ground then? I used to loan a 17hh TB/ID, I'm 5'6 and I was always the one to get off to do gates/pick up things hacking partners had dropped/etc.