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At an ad for me......lovely looking buckskin mare on Horsequest. Ticks a lot of our boxes for a mother-daughter share although a little younger/less established than we would have liked.
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What are you looking for?

New home needed for Jasmine who would be a make a great All rounder/Eventer.

Jasmine is 5 years old - young will need consistent, calm training

She is Welsh section D cross Traditional, however her confirmation appears to be more sportier type. - Interpret this as forward, will she be to forward for you / daughter?

Jasmine enjoys being in work and loves 1-1 attention. - Positive attitude but may gets bored easily if not in work (mine likes to try escaping from the field when bored for example) - not good with too many different riders.

She was professionally broken last year and has been doing light ridden work since due to lack of time so has low milage - Could be true, or they are too quirky for current owner

Currently being ridden by a professional rider - again is the owner not confident enough?

Jasmine has been hacked out and hasn't put a foot wrong but would benefit from a rider who can put time in to bring out her potential. - I would interpret this as naps hacking personally. All horses can get in or out of this with the right consistent training

Would make a great eventer or hunt horse as she is not phased by things when ridden. - forward bold jumper

Jasmine has a great jump in her. - probs over jumps

Good for farrier, good for clipping, catching, bathing ect. - all fine could ask about dentist.

If you are happy with the potential of all of above seems nice, I didnt look at the videos but interpreted potential 'between the lines'. Welsh do have a high action so can feel more bouncy than other mounts
 
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I would also ask about how they are in the field, and how they have been managed, stabling/ in or out, do they respect electric fencing - what kind of livery do you need to look for. If you want a youngster it can be incredibly rewarding if you are okay with potentially a more forward horse than your typical 'mother/daughter cob' depends on your riding abilities - have plenty of help around / a good instructor
 
Thanks so much for the interpretation, its funny reading between the lines isn't it of horse ads and I pretty much drew the same conclusions.
We're looking for a mother-teen daughter share as a general allrounder, jack of all trades, master of none really. A family horse that I can take on pleasure rides, low level RC clinics with the middle aged brigade and then daughter would like to take round the local XC course just jumping 50-60cms to start. BUT we don't have a huge budget so fully appreciate there will be comprimises and in this case its the age/experience.
I'm willing to put in the hard yards hacking solo as have experience taking out nappy horses and am willing to bring in extra help schooling as thats where I lack experience, she just caught my eye as in our price range and isnt too far away.

Coblet is welsh/cob so I'm used to the high knees, bouncy but not really going anywhere fast motion!
 
Absolutely wouldnt be my choice for what you want. I'm not even sure why, but gut instinct just says absolutely not. I've not had coffee yet so could be playing a part!

And do not buy anything with traditional cob or draught blood without a negative PSSM1 test.
 
nutjob said:
If you look at the videos this horse looks quite backwards to me, maybe just green for a 5yo. The pro rider is kicking almost constantly and uses the whip twice.
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Yes I spotted that too, tbh I wouldnt school a young horse too much, plenty of hacking out in company and alone to get the horse going forward, but that's just my thoughts.
 
I like her, if not too far Id go have a look, just make sure you watch else someone ride first - and dont be afraid to say sorry not for me before even getting on anything - I wish I had and ended up bucked off the back of a horse onto concrete ... Had a look at the videos just looks like an unbalanced youngster to me. But Im no vet!
 
Nice horse but I wouldn't take a punt unless I was sure of myself and daughter as both competent riders, with a good support network. She's really only lived in one home, always been ridden by professionals and they say she's forward. Physically she still looks very young. I think what you might save on purchase price would soon get eaten up paying other professionals to turn her into the all round family horse you are looking for.
 
Yes as jackfrost says, better to underhorse and be off doing things confidently, even if they are ploddy you'll still have loads of fun, than overhorse and be paying someone else to ride them. Can definitely find a 14.2hh cob for that money
 
Sounds quirky to me, too many of and it's in the add.
How old, confident and experienced is your daughter?
I would be more inclined to get something aged that is steady and has been there dien ot, of the budget isn't there then look to loan or wait till more money available.
 
starbucker said:
Yes as jackfrost says, better to underhorse and be off doing things confidently, even if they are ploddy you'll still have loads of fun, than overhorse and be paying someone else to ride them. Can definitely find a 14.2hh cob for that money
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I dont disagree and if the pony/horse was just for me at 5ft 3 and 8.5 stone I'd love a 14.2 but sadly teen has dads gene's and is already 5ft 7, bigger built with legs past my armpits :(
She is regularly riding a 16.1 ID x TB and looks terrific on it, I'm not wanting one that big though so a studier 15-15.3hh is the compromise!
 
If she were half the price I'd take a punt. But for £6,500...

She's very unbalanced in the school and unsettled in the contact. She goes between rushing and dropping behind the leg. They didn't canter in the school which suggests to me that she either doesn't do it at all or it's not good. There's a lot of schooling (and re-schooling) to be done. I don't really like the head back, tight neck, fussy mouth reaction, but I am not sure that is entirely the horse. I may be being a little harsh, but they've chosen those videos to sell her, so my inference is that this her at her best (at this stage).

There are a few things in the advert which suggest some tricky behaviour.

She may be what you're looking for eventually, but she won't be that for quite a while.

To be honest, if she were bay she'd be <£4k.
 
If shes still around in a fortnight when its school half term I may do as am really looking for a few to view that week as I'm off school/work. As a buyer though |I dont want to be tarnished as a "timewaster" though which some sellers seem to think we are. Heaven forbid we ask lots of questions and require several viewings before parting with what amounts to approx a quarter of my TA salary!
 
If shes too much horse, theres nothing wrong with trying a bigger-built 14.2–14.3hh and see how it rides. A wide, deep-barreled cob can take up just as much leg as a 15.2hh. The problem is cobs do top out at about 14.2 / 14.3 unless they are crossed with something so I see alot looking for a 15.2hh traditional cob but they dont really exist , they gain some fizziness depending on what they are crossed with. A 15.2 hh schoolmaster / lesson horse is very different to a 15.2 private horse. I know a cyldesdale cob cross at 15.3 which fits this bill, but she was bought for 15k lol

Edit - You're not a timewaster if you are genuinely looking. A nice seller will understand
 
5yo mares can be tricky. They generally turn back into truly lovely souls around the age of 6, but Welsh Ds can be bouncy beyond that. We have a high percentage Welsh D mare for my son, who was backed at 6 and is now 7. She is lovely and kind and absolutely adores him - but boy does she have a turn of speed on her! High energy, shoots off enthusiastically from time to time, mortified if the child comes off (both times were bucking fits) but generally big movement, lots of enthusiasm for life. We absolutely adore her but she would not be for the faint hearted!
 
HopOnTrot said:
The text of the advert did not lead me to expect the horse in the videos.
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I think thats what bothered me, that and I just think there's something off, she very much reminds me of my little PSSM mare before I knew about it. Forward until she wasn't, bombproof until she was completely wired and reactive etc etc. Once sorted she was an outstanding pony, but she was sold on very cheaply due to the PSSM as no one really wants to deal with that. I wouldn't have another one.
 
Unless you and your daughter are experienced I don't think this is the horse that I would go for. She does look very green and for an advert that mentions her jumping there are no videos/pictures. You could well end up spending a fair bit of money paying some-one to turn her into the horse that you want.

The advert and seller do sound very genuine though.
 
I had tentatively looked at the same advert; there is so little for sale at present I was wondering if I could/ should consider a younger horse. However I have reminded myself that was what I did the our first horse (not the one we recently rehomed) and it didn't work out. There was nothing wrong with her horse but we needed more professional input that I initially anticipated and for longer than I hoped. I will take an older teenager this time in preference to a youngster. I am reconciled to the fact this search is going to take some time, both in terms of saving what I need to purchase any horse and also due to the limited number of suitable horses available for sale.
 
She looks like an extremely green young horse. Her lack of forwardness could easily be to do with her still finding her balance, especially working in the school. IMO I wouldn't look at her for a mother/daughter share unless both were very competent riders and a mum who had bought on a young horse previously.
Also too expensive for her level of education!
 
I think she's lovely. She took an unwarranted and pointless slap with the whip and didn't over-react. I would definitely go to see. If it progresses further, I would be making an offer. Wouldn't pay £6500.
 
I’d like to see if she was more ‘forward’ out on a hack. She’s green (understandable) Crocked at times on the straight and the constant kicking from the rider was annoying me.
 
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