Would appreciate opinions please?

Don't like the first one at all. Last one didn't really inspire me. I like the second one. Looked like he might need a confident rider xc to continue a correct education, but as far as you can tell from a video he looked like a nice genuine sort and nicely ridden. What do you aim to do with it and what's your experience.
 
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Prefer no. 2. First one is only a baby, so probably why his back end is in need of work, seems very sloped down, wants muscling up. No. 3 looks nice, but is too much of a skinny minny for my taste.
 
Thank you both.

The first one is 4k

The darker bay is 5.5k and the light bay 6.5k

I'm looking for something to event..only low level but would love to aim for grassroots. Would be my first youngster..although debating whether to just get something with a bit more experience and have some fun!
 
Well in that case... number 2 would be your best bet, but again he looked very green at points and hasn't exactly got a brilliant BE record. I wouldn't pay 5.5K for it in this market.
 
Have you done much eventing? No 2 would be green enough I would think. I think his rider is a nice effective rider so you would have to consider if you could ride him as well or better than her.
 
I'm assuming you are looking for an event horse?

It's a very personal call - what suits you may not be what someone else would pick!

They're all obviously professionally produced with some of the videos taken from irritatingly far away!

Like the stamp of the first, and the still pics of him jumping look nice, but he looks flat and dull under saddle, abdi don't like the way he approaches the fence with his head down. He looks like he's been schooled for the American market.

Second horse is obviously older, but is shown jumping well within his comfort zone for his age and assumed ability. A little dangly with his legs, he's careful enough and a smart stamp.

Third horse - paces not really shown off, and only shown over SJ. Much better technique over a fence- he really snaps up behind over some of the fences and generally looks classier than the other two

Is this the sort of feedback you wanted?
 
Don't like #1's hind end, but it is young and may improve with development & correct muscle building.

#2 looks better but would like to see an unridden picture/video to get a better idea of conformation.

#3 same as above.

In my opinion all are over-priced (although that is without knowing full details). But I personally would not pay the prices you have stated for the above horses. Good luck in your search.
 
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If you are buying from a professional, remember that they almost never miss at a fence, that they have jumped bigger and more scarey fences than you ever will (no offence intended) and they will have produced the horse "for sale" so as push button as they can make it, for potential purchasers.

I would drop a horse's feed down, increase the workload and make sure that I had jumped all the fillers etc the horse was likely to see during the viewing. Not to con anyone, just to minimise the risk of anything going wrong, particularly if I was concerned about the competency of the viewer!
 
Thank you all for your comments. Really appreciated. Was just generally looking for opinions so you have all been helpful. I'm so out of touch. What would you expect to pay for a horse similar to the above or on the other end of the scale one with experience and fairly consistent record at BE90?
 
For 5k you could get a nice consistent low level eventer, but I would sacrifice paces and a flashy jump for something easy and will jump anything from any stride. If you want something consistent to win at grassroots with good confo, flashy paces or potential to go int. or higher expect to double the budget. Its hard to gauge because what I would pay 'up north' to the south of England is probably a couple of thousand different!
 
Don't like any of them. 1 jumps with his head down which is wrong. 2 is lazy and kept trying to stop cantering. 3 hesitates too much.

None scream eventing material. Just me though but I wouldn't pay that much for any of them. I paid less for a horse far better than any of them and I know people who have paid even less than me for novice level eventers. Keep looking i would say.
 
None of them float my boat, but number three is bred beautifully. Kayf Tara (Saddlers Wells) x Color Spin (High Top).

It will certainly gallop.
 
I don't like the way the first one jumps he approaches bearing heavily downhill, not easy to ride or change.
No 2 there is something rather slow about him, his BE record raises questions and that with the way he is ponderous jumping makes me wonder about soundness.
I prefer the last of the 3 but am not sure it will be an easy first youngster, I don't think they are overpriced if they are straight and sound but you could find better within that range, possibly something that has done a bit more would be a better bet but you will need to up the budget a bit to find one with a decent record at 90.
 
Bare in mind right now that i have no personal experience in eventing, or jumping but all three are jumping in a school which would give me no indication about how they would go over a xc. No.2 looks the best from the three, but looks strong over the jumps and the rider is just good at holding them. The other two...i wouldn't view them tbh
 
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For 5k you could get a nice consistent low level eventer, but I would sacrifice paces and a flashy jump for something easy and will jump anything from any stride. If you want something consistent to win at grassroots with good confo, flashy paces or potential to go int. or higher expect to double the budget. Its hard to gauge because what I would pay 'up north' to the south of England is probably a couple of thousand different!
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Not viewed the vids but I'd agree with this in terms of general expectations and price range. Although I'm in the south so I don't know about price difference further north, I've always just looked at ads nearer to me.
 
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If you are buying from a professional, remember that they almost never miss at a fence, that they have jumped bigger and more scarey fences than you ever will (no offence intended) and they will have produced the horse "for sale" so as push button as they can make it, for potential purchasers.

I would drop a horse's feed down, increase the workload and make sure that I had jumped all the fillers etc the horse was likely to see during the viewing. Not to con anyone, just to minimise the risk of anything going wrong, particularly if I was concerned about the competency of the viewer!
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Very true! And something I was aware of when viewing but it's hard to judge when they go like a dream at the sellers yard! I got mine from a dressage trainer who buys and sells a few, and he was awesome when I rode him there. Obv once I got him home it slightly unraveled haha but fortunately the horse was forgiving enough that I can now kind of get a decent tune out of him myself!
 
Number 1 is what I untechnically term "on his head" very on the forehand, looks like if the rider let go of the front end he would face plant ! The stills of him jumping look lovely but sadly that is not the picture you get when you actually see him jump on the video. He is very backward & I generally don't like his way of going or tackling a fence. I can't imagine him having a very useful gallop & would worry about him running too much into the ground.

Number 2 I like but the rider is very useful. 100% commited at each fence. You can see he is still green. He reminds me a lot of my mare I've just sold, really willing and bold and will jump anything you point him at as long as your committed as soon as you go "oh hell that's big or acary" he may well think twice

Number 3 I like. He may not be flashy but he's got a nice pop on him, definitely an event type. He got cracking breeding. I think he's the type of horse you would need to ride to appreciate. Nothing special to look at but I reckon he would give you confidence & fun round an xc course :) I'd like to see a vid on the flat mind.

Can I ask why your looking specifically for a youngster?

If you only want to event at lower levels to have some fun why not consider something that's done it but still able to do it? That way you could go out this season have some fun & probably be competitive rather than getting a youngster & be lucky to get out much this season & probably not have much to show for it. You will both learn & lot & it will be so rewarding but if your wanting something for fun and confidence you might not find that.

I'm playing devils advocate I break & produce youngsters as a hobby alongside my full time job so know how hard it is starting out introducing them to eventing. Some days are amazing and others are bitterly disappointing
 
It's number three for me .
Looks like a great fun project for someone .
Of course it's a fun game assess the horse in thirty second or so but you really have to see them .
Number one should make a nice horse in time but did not float my boat .
Number two would not be for me not my type at all.
 
Haven't watched the vids due to slow internet but if you are new to eventing I would suggest you get something that has a bit of experience in that field. I only started eventing a few years ago and I love it, but that's largely because my horse is bold, knows his job and wants to event. If I had started eventing with a youngster that needed more guidance and confidence from me, I don't think I would have been quite so happy!
 
They're all decent horses, worth their values I'd have thought.
I'll go against the grain and pick no. 1 if you want a genuine youngster to produce for low level eventing. He is in an easy rythym and has a lovely jump. I think he is in a nice balance for a 4yr old and I suspect he is easy to ride to a fence. He has scope and potential but he would be a proper project as won't have been xc etc.
No. 2 does nothing for me and I suspect it is limited. He has a sketchy record which would need explaining. No. 3 is presumably an ex-racehorse, being very sympathetically ridden, winces when he has to make a bigger effort over a fence. Does nothing for me!
 
I've only had a quick look but with a competent rider all three would probably get round a BE90 and all of these riders are very experienced. They are all probably worth pretty much their advertised price too if they are straightforward horses, easy to do etc. May I put another point of view, please. I am guessing that you are not an experienced event rider, sorry if I have made a mistake. I haven't evented but I spent many years grooming etc for my daughter and I've watched a lot of 100's and Novice events over the years. I feel that most inexperienced amateurs do best on established horses that give them confidence, a bit of help and can find a 5th leg. Temperament is absolute key and having an easy horse at an event is just such a godsend when the rider is feeling nervous. They don't need to have the flashiest paces, a wonderful bascule or be able to gallop but they do need to know their job and enjoy it. Most decent horses are more than capable of doing a 90 but there's a lot that just don't want to and frankly a professional will get a donkey round a BE100. Good luck with your search but do think about older horses I think you could well have more fun on something established.
 
I haven't eventec since 2008! But, I didn't like 2. He needed riding into everything including on the flat. No matter what she was doing it looked lazy- never really 'locked' onto any jumps but rather needed pushing into them. I liked no3 it had a nice jump, looked balanced, could manage a simple change and even when the rider got the stride slightly out on one of the jumps- took the jump on happily. It looked like a horse you could have fun on. If it works nicely on the flat and has been Xc schooled at least and is just as keen Xc I would happily pay £6k!
 
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I would agree with others and say that you are better going for something older, possibly less flash, but will give you some experience.
However, going against the grain, I think all those horses are worth their price tag especially considering they will come at a premium from a professionals yard. Personally I like 3 best but he looks a sharper sort and has a lot of jump which may not translate well to someone with their first youngster. 2 is nice but would need looking into with the dubious record and doesn't particularly do anything for me. 1 I like and reckon would be your best bet if you decide to go for a youngster, green but seems to have been quietly produced and looks a useful sort, the type that with a years correct work could be a real cracker.
You definitely have to bear in mind that all of these horses are coming from professionals which is great but they will be used to stron riding and strict management so you need to consider that when they come home that you may well have some issues and be greener than first thought due to the transition into an amateur home.
Whatever you decide good luck with finding the right one!
 
Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Having read all of your comments and really had a think about it I've decided I'm going to look for something with a bit of experience that I can just get on and have fun with. I've evented previously Though only unaffiliated so having took on board comments I think it would be a safer bet having something with experience. I don't know why I just had in my head that I could get a nice youngster and hopefully it would be my horse for life so to speak. Plus I can't seem to find anything with experience that I like the look of. I guess I i need to keep looking and wait!
 
The right one will come along, just keep looking and if it's been ridden by an amateur rider, so much the better if it has a reasonable record. Good luck and have fun!
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Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Having read all of your comments and really had a think about it I've decided I'm going to look for something with a bit of experience that I can just get on and have fun with. I've evented previously Though only unaffiliated so having took on board comments I think it would be a safer bet having something with experience. I don't know why I just had in my head that I could get a nice youngster and hopefully it would be my horse for life so to speak. Plus I can't seem to find anything with experience that I like the look of. I guess I i need to keep looking and wait!
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Lauranuup said:
Thank you all for taking the time to reply. Having read all of your comments and really had a think about it I've decided I'm going to look for something with a bit of experience that I can just get on and have fun with. I've evented previously Though only unaffiliated so having took on board comments I think it would be a safer bet having something with experience. I don't know why I just had in my head that I could get a nice youngster and hopefully it would be my horse for life so to speak. Plus I can't seem to find anything with experience that I like the look of. I guess I i need to keep looking and wait!
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Really glad to hear this, I think you will be able to have a lot more fun and be able to get out BE this season...providing everywhere isn't underwater ! :D

You know how us h&hs love a good horse hunt I'm sure people would help out ! :p
 
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