Would I have any chance of selling?

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QueenDee_

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Just wondering in the current market whether it would even be worth advertising my boy as hes had lameness problems, cleared up the arthritis in hocks via tildren injections & vet has passed them as clear now, however has not been 100%sound on his one front for a while, hes sound enough to jump etc, but if you were to go and enter a dressage comp you would tell he wasn't 100%..before this he was a lovely PC all rounder type horse and a fantastic stamp of a Conne

please note that this isn't an advert I am merely wondering what to do with him really as with 3 horses and a youngster I need to make some space and so amke some decisions :o
 
Would you consider loaning him to the right home, that way whilst he's sound enough to work he can enjoy life and when he can no longer do that you have the control over his future? In the current market unless sold for meat money prices I doubt you would sell him
 
You could try approaching the equine colleges, they have been advertising for horses recently.

I think you would struggle to sell a horse that would possibly be stopped as lame in a low level dressage test.
 
Personally I'd be concerned buying him as I wouldn't buy a horse & intend to jump that would be judged unsound in a dressage test.

I might be interested in him as a companion or light hack if he is sound enough for that. But then I'd only pay you a token amount of £100 or so!
 
Am sorry but your post made me somewhat annoyed and confused. Are you genuinely asking if it could be appropriate to sell a horse that is lame? Ie in pain? And um... Apologies as am no get but how can a lame in front horse be suitable for jumping? How can a lame anywhere horse be suitable for jumping?
 
Personally i'd be happy to loan him, it would allow me to find a home I was happy for him to be in etc, but unfortunately un-horsey father is dead set against it, convinced he'll come back with a broken leg or something :confused: we originally bought him for 4500 but thats completely down the drain now :o just trying to scrape some money together to go towards the mare I have on lwvtb at the moment, looks like i'm going to have better luck working my bum off and getting my TB mare into a sale-able state, but with the grass coming through that is a lot easier said than done :D
 
I would potentially offer you a token amount if I thought it was worth taking a chance that he would come sound.

I wouldn't consider a horse that would be pulled up lame in a dressage test 'sound enough to jump' so it would be a risk on a potential purchasers if that was what they were looking for.

Difficult in the current climate and I feel your pain as I have 2 that are in a similar position. However if I had to I would sell a sound one so I knew the others would be looked after in retirement.
 
Just to reply to the commets about him being un-sound, when I say slightly I mean only very slightly, some days you can't tell some days you can, its more a stiffness to be honest so we think it may be the beginnings of arthritis, however the vet has told us he is sound enough to jump on good ground, just not sound enough to go galloping round a 3'6 cross country course on rock hard ground
 
Elena said:
Just to reply to the commets about him being un-sound, when I say slightly I mean only very slightly, some days you can't tell some days you can, its more a stiffness to be honest so we think it may be the beginnings of arthritis, however the vet has told us he is sound enough to jump on good ground, just not sound enough to go galloping round a 3'6 cross country course on rock hard ground
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How old is he?
 
Ah I see.. Still, think I wouldn't take a risk. Had a fantastic hunter few years back with low grade intermittent lameness. Turned out to be ring bone of sinister type. Am surprised any vet says jumping ok what with weight bearing on landing and impact on joints etc
 
Your horse is not sound enough to jump if it is not sound for dressage.. Have you had the front limb ivestigated? If not do that so you know what you're dealing with. don't pass on your unsound horse, poor lad. If its arthriticy, bute him and hack him?
 
I have to say, reading your OP Im incredibly surprised that your vet has okayed you to jump him, but he's not sound enough for dressage :confused:

TBH, I can't imagine you could sell him unless for a token amount. If anything, assuming you can't/won't keep him I could only suggest that he gets loaned out as a light hack/companion instead :)
 
He is 14 this year

Cortez said:
Am I right in hearing that you have a LAME horse? And want to sell it?
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Wondering if there is any chance i could sell:o to a hacking home maybe, currently i'm at a loose end as to what to do, currently not in the best situation money wise, my youngster managed to put his leg through the gate(text book perfect one at that but of course he still manages to hurt himself on it) so the vets bill for that is going up and up having to sedate him every week to change the bandage :rolleyes: so I don't know if I could afford to go into nerve blocks and x-rays to see whats going on with this boy, he's been in the field all winter just hacking and basically i'm wondering what to do with him :o
 
Elena said:
Just to reply to the commets about him being un-sound, when I say slightly I mean only very slightly, some days you can't tell some days you can, its more a stiffness to be honest so we think it may be the beginnings of arthritis, however the vet has told us he is sound enough to jump on good ground, just not sound enough to go galloping round a 3'6 cross country course on rock hard ground
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Yes, its possible that you would get another home for him, but with that type of illness he has very little value, I would say. Ridden career would be very guarded.
However, there is no way you will do this horse absolutely any favours in keeping him sound if you jump him. Jumping is a definite no, in my book. You would just reduce his working life dreadfully.
 
Guys, I think to be fair to the OP she isn't covering up the fact the horse is lame for an unknown reason to a prespective buyer!! So you'd take it on accepting the horse as a light hack or companion. It would be up to you to see if there was something that would bring the horse sound. But you can't really ask more than a token gesture.

Elena - I think the problem is you won't get any money when you sell so it would just save you in running costs. If you have something sound and sane to sell that may be a better option.
 
I'm sorry, but a lame horse cannot be ridden, let alone sold as a riding horse. Get it sound; then perhaps ride it/sell.
 
Please get off OPs back!! She is merely being honest......and practical. When my big fella was hoppy turning right for a few strides due to sidebone, my vet's advice was just to hunt him. So that is what he did and only stopped this season.There is a difference between obvious lameness and being a bit unlevel. Assuming horse is happy of course. I don't consider being 1/5 lame an issue.
 
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Sorry but I agree with Cortez, I do not think he should be ridden if he isn't sound. It sounds like its very low grade so if he is staying sound on a light hack then maybe you could loan him as a light hack.

Be careful passing him on though, if he is willing and likes jumping then you can be sure that someone will jump him.

I know that isnt what you want to hear...simply my opinion..sorry.
 
I can understand why you would be reluctant to build up a big vet's bill to find out what is going on if you can't afford to pay it, but realistically you have two options. Either pay now to find out what is wrong with the horse, see if it can be treated and give prospective buyers a good idea of his future, or keep him yourself. If you sell him as a light hack due to unknown lameness you risk someone unscrupulous buying him and just selling him on for more money without disclosing his problems. Difficult situation to be in but if you cannot afford him, you cannot afford to find out what is wrong with him and you don't want to loan him it may be time to consider PTS rather than passing him on to an uncertain future.
 
Ditchjumper2 said:
Please get off OPs back!! She is merely being honest......and practical. When my big fella was hoppy turning right for a few strides due to sidebone, my vet's advice was just to hunt him. So that is what he did and only stopped this season.There is a difference between obvious lameness and being a bit unlevel. Assuming horse is happy of course. I don't consider being 1/5 lame an issue.
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Thankyou :o didn't come on here to start arguments :rolleyes: but yes, when we were sorting out the osteoarthritis in his hocks one of his suggestions was to work him as hard as we could so that the bones fused, would have given some owners quite a shock if they were told that! But its how they solved it before all these expensive drugs came out :rolleyes:

But thank you for all the replies I think I shall have a sit down with Mom and talk about our best options horse wise. To be honest before I posted I was in the mind set that really as he is he isn't sale-able but just wanted some more opinions/options :p
 
Years ago i shared an eventer who went lame, vet said he would be unable to compete at the level he was aimed at. He was sold as lame without corective shoeing. He went on to compete and win at a lower level but we were lucky to find a home with sombody who was understanding. Also he was a talented enough horse that he was considerd worth buying with his problems.
 
as has already been said, be so careful when passing horses on with known issues. A good example here is the lady who sent a horse to a charity with issues and as a result, the horse is now suffering for it and had been passed from pillar to post as he had lameness issues. I am not sure whether you saw that post or not but it highlights what people are saying on here. I dont think you are wrong for wanting to keep horses you can ride, after all they cost alot of money. It is a tricky situation that most of us will come across at some point. I was very lucky with my new forest that could not do what I really wanted to do but was still great to ride/hack etc so my sister has him for her to potter about on and her daughter to ride, I pay his livery and she does the rest. That way I could afford to have my rideable horse with me and also secure my nf's future. Do you have anyone who would take him as a hack that you know very well? I would think your options would be to keep and sell a rideable one, loan from your current yard or very close by as a light hack and keep a very close eye on him or pts. I know that sounds harsh but imagine if you sold him and he got buted up and later found he was being passed around/ridden more than he should etc and there will be nothing you can do about it.
 
1. Could you sell a lame horse? Yes, you probably could bute him up and lie about him (doubt if you'd recoup your £4500 price though). And there are many amoral people out there who'd buy him as a 'companion' or 'light hack' then change his history and sell him on for more cash.

2. Should you sell him? Absolutely not - it is the wrong thing to do. If you desperately needed money because you'd lost your job, or had to keep a roof over your head, I'd be more sympathetic. But just because you want rid of him, with a bit of cash to buy another one - no, never.

3.What should you do? Investigate his lameness fully and treat it. If it isn't treatable, retire him if he is paddock sound. If you can't retire him, put him to sleep. And if you can't look after this living, breathing creature properly just because you can't sit on it and enjoy yourself, then you really shouldn't have horses at all.

S :mad:
 
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