Would you be angry if someone hogged your horse without your permission?

jhoward said:
Id go and take my horse back and say never again, but then hun you know of my experiance with them, least your lad isnt lame.

I know some people say it could of been a communitcation glich but i dont think so, the YM tends to know best and do as she pleases!
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Oh dear, that sounds terrible. Is your horse OK now?
 
I would be furious, if he is only there for 3 and half weeks and was a 'borrow' then they most certainly should have sought permission beforehand. I was actually really upset a couple of years ago when I came back from a weeks holiday to see our Shetland who had a beautiful long black mane standing in the field with her mane pulled and trimmed to within 3 inches of her neck. It just looked so blinking stupid and not suited at all. Friend had taken it upon herself to tidy her mane up, my poor daughter actually cried!
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
But this is different this time around, coz he's only gonna be at college for three-and-a-bit weeks until the end of term coz apparently they're short of the right sort of horses for exams etc., so coz he'd been there before, they asked me (and other owners) whether they could "borrow" him again just for a very short period for this specific purpose.

To be fair, they may have assumed that as he was hogged before, I'd be happy for him to be hogged again, BUT all they had to do was pick up the poxy phone & ask FGS!!
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I agree, for the sake of a phone call, when he'd only be there for a few weeks, I'd be furious in your position too!! :mad: even if it was because he'd developed an itch cos of midges or something.... a phone call is a lot shorter term than the "loss" of a horse who was lent in good faith. I mean... if they'd rung you the outcome may have been the same (i.e. you may have said yes to hogging him) but having not done so, you are unlikely to lend him to them again! It's their own fault.

that said, if they hogged Ron they'd all be dead anyway as he's so frightened of the clippers round his ears, and if he hadn't killed them trying, and they'd twitched him to do it I'd have shot them! :D
 
Found out over the weekend .... no name given, but it was deffo STAFF who dunnit.

Makes it MUCH worse IMO. If a student had done it in error, I just might understand and forgive, but not now.

If I ever do find out the person concerned (and do have my suspicions) then I shall have to be forcibly restrained from scalping them!!

Soooo ...... cummon peeps, think of some suitable "punishments" please!!!!! ;) :)
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Found out over the weekend .... no name given, but it was deffo STAFF who dunnit.

Makes it MUCH worse IMO. If a student had done it in error, I just might understand and forgive, but not now.

If I ever do find out the person concerned (and do have my suspicions) then I shall have to be forcibly restrained from scalping them!!

Soooo ...... cummon peeps, think of some suitable "punishments" please!!!!! ;) :)
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I've been there dunnit with growing out a hog, and would be mad if I had to do it all over again!

I suspect it was communication error.

"can we tidy up XXX yet?"
"Yes, owner has given us permission"
*staff tootle off to take everything off, as they did last time they saw the horse without realising YM meant body not mane too*

I hope you receive an apology at the very least. I think you need to let the YM know (if you haven't already) that this is really not on. Hopefully that might save someone else's mane!
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Yes, I have written a letter to the Yard Manager - so hopefully the turbine and the effluent will make meaningful contact.
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Great quote!!! :D :D :D

I do know of an instance where a horse at our yard was hogged without owner's consent, because his poor mane was such a mess of burrs and tangles that it was the only way he could be tidied up. The rest of him was a mess too and the owner's friend had just decided one day that enough was enough. I have to say, he looked fantastic once she'd finished with him.

My friend trimmed my horse's tail before she took him for a hack one day because she's a bit uptight like that. She's always tidying his mane too, because she's got way too much time on her hands. Hey, suits me... :)

HOWEVER... your situation is somewhat different. I hope you get a suitably grovelling apology from YO and lots of gifts of good quality wine and chocolate to make amends.
Did they ask you if there was anything specific you didn't want doing with him? When my lad was on box rest, the PC and some of the other riding clubs in the area used to use him to practice plaiting, pulling, trimming etc because he's so sweet-natured and also because he needed fussing while on box rest. I did specify, however, that they weren't to go near his whiskers or his ears, and no clippers anywhere (just because I didn't want inexperienced little hands merrily whisking off hair here there and everywhere).
 
I TOO would be f...ing fuming . I would walk up to YO and say


..i.. on that





I am taking my horse back.

I am so :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: you had no right to hog him.

One of my x liveries had my friends pony on trial in view to buy he had long tail to floor and long mane the kid cut straight across his forelock looked ridiculous and cut mane and cut his tail to 4 inches above his hock my friend was fuming.

the alki mum just said

well we going to buy him anyway.



Oh yes did they end up buying him ???? NO THEY DID NOT they sent him back.l
 
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Faracat said:
Oh dear, that sounds terrible. Is your horse OK now?
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yes I removed said horse rather quickley
livid doesnt even cover how i felt. the overal care of my horse was second to none, BUT there was 2 incidents one of which left me with a lame horse when i asked that shoes were removed there and then i got ignored, had there farrier telling me i knew nothing, 24 hours later shoes still on so i went and removed said shoes then my horse!

honestly i was ready to kill.. 6.5k worth of show horse in the middle of my showing season with feet to small and lame! grrrrr
 
Quite simply, yes I would be fuming and would be expecting some recompense from them. Totally unprofessional.
 
I would be spitting with rage and would be down to that yard as fast as I could to remove the horse

What a complete and utter flippin cheek - as others have said, all that was needed was a phone call.
 
I'd be absolutely livid, would have removed the horse there and then and would be expecting wine/chocolates/flowers in apology. Next time they asked to borrow him the answer would be a resounding NO.
But then I cannot understand the fixation with 'tidying-up' horses. Nothing looks nicer IMO than a natural, long flowing mane and tail, which can be plaited whenever necessary. And as for trimming off the feeler hairs which are also there for a reason...........

I can only assume that it is actually based in laziness - if a horse is hogged you don not have to spend time brushing the mane.
 
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So...you previously lent your horse to them saying yeah, take it all off if you like, knock yourself out and presumably were happy when they did, lend it to them again and tell them they can clip it... Knowing all the other cobs are hogged in the yard so it's obviously pretty standard for them to clip and hog, why on earth didn't you just say 'i don't mind if you clip him but please don't hog him I'm growing his mane out'. Sorry but I think this is partly your fault, you should have told them not to hog him if you didn't want it done.
 
blueneonrainbow said:
Seriously it's just hair! Why is everyone so worked up?!? Another 6 months it will be back!!
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I have that attitude to my own hair and let my sister (trainee hairdresser) bleach, cut and dye my hair as practice. I'm now getting used to having 'pillar box red' hair! :eek: :p

I do have mane issues and I truly hate riding horses with hogged manes (even though it looks smart), well it's mostly mounting isseus really. I always grab the mane with the reins to mount. I had a serious accident mounting and this little handful of mane somehow makes me feel confident. Give me a horse with a hogged mane and I'm a quivering wreck. :o

All this aside, have you ever tried to grow out a hogged mane? It's a flipping nightmare.
 
blueneonrainbow said:
Seriously it's just hair! Why is everyone so worked up?!? Another 6 months it will be back!!
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Thats easy for you to say some of us take pride in our horses manes arabs quater horses its their pride and joy takes years to grow back a full long mane.
I love long manes and long tails Biscuits and diamonds before i decided to trim them were 8ft 6 inches i was trying to break a record but would take too long.


I had one experience with vidal sasoons when a trim to them is giving me a pudding basin. i have never used any products of theirs since.



if you show your horse and want a mane no 1 can play god and hog it without checking first bet you wouldnt feel like that if you went to hair dressers and they cut your hair to 1/2 inch all over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bet you wouldnt say oh well its only hair:rolleyes:
 
Yeah it's easy for me to say but evidently we aren't talking about a show horse with a flowing mane that has taken years to grow ... It's 6 months growth so how much of an issue is it really? If someone hogged an Andalusian stallion with a lifetimes worth of mane, yes I get it but from the sound of it to op handed over the horse without specifying the rules re hogging had changed. As for me going to the hairdresser ... If I normally had it shaved and then decided to grow it for 6 months, then went back could I realistically complain if I didn't say I was growing it out and I just wanted a trim?!
 
as my boy is a traditonal cob his mane tail & feathers are my pride & joy, if someone hogged him without permission then i`m afriad you would have to hold me down from doing the same to them!
 
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