would you be annoyed?

Thanks hanzababy, decision made now i think so will find somehting where what you pay for is what you get.
Littlelegs i understand what your saying, but what she was asked to do was nothing more than a daily job as it were, to check on him, turn out and bring in, which is no different to what she does anyway just with a shorter time gap between the turning out and bringing in part
 
amymay said:
C'mon Nat. I'm sure you can see exactly where I'm coming from. Mistake by you. Learn, move on. Find new yard.
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No i dont think i do actually, i PAY for her to look after my horse, and what i was asking was no different to what she does everyday anyway regardless of her not being there. She turns him out, brings him in, checks on him etc etc. The ONLY thing i asked that was different was that instead of turning out, going back to work, and bringing in later. Could she either leave him in full stop, or turn out and bring in within the hour she's back for lunch. Now where am i supposed to have gone wrong with that, its not a difficult instruction or expecting too much surely?
 
Natwood said:
WhYes m_g im aware texts can go astray, thats why i tried calling her twice and left a voicemail aswell, not sure what else i could have done as she wasnt on the yard at any of the times i was there
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Sorry I missed the bit about you phoning, these days I am not happy till I have spoken to the person concerned as I too have once before relied on a text & voice message having been received, I am in no way judging you as I think we all live and learn.

I hope you find a suitable full livery & fingers crossed the test results come back that its not a melanoma on your lad's anus
 
Thanks M_g i know you werent personally, im gonna leave this post now though as upset enough as it is that a 7yo horse ive spent my life savings on and had 5 minutes is prob riddled with melanomas, and thats without people jumping on me for not having common sense when my horse is on full care and all i asked yo to do was little different to any other day.
 
Natwood said:
7yo horse ive spent my life savings on and had 5 minutes is prob riddled with melanomas.
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Please try to be positive, there is a chance it may just be a lump & if it is melenomas I know ther is treatment out there that does work & thats what we have horse insurance for.

Chin up smile on & go enjoy your boy while looking for a more sutiable yard
 
I can see why you are annoyed OP, although I think it stems down to poor communication from both of you. You know you are having 'issues' with this yard and are thinking of moving. I appreciate you didn't realise the set up when you moved, but there is no denying that you do now. To that end why rely on a text. Why not speak to the YO either by phone or face to face just to clarify what is going to happen in that particular situation.

If you need the full support of 24/7 supervision and the 'touchy feely' approach - not that there is anything wrong with wanting that - then I think it is best to move yards and in the interim accept that what you have at current yard is the basics.

So yes I agree that YO lack of compassion and communication is not ideal. But also I think you could possibly take a weeny bit of 'lessons learned' from your actions too. None of us are perfect!
 
I'd be annoyed but I wouldn't be surprised. Sounds like this YO is just reverting to type and TBH if I knew that was the way she was inclined - I wouldn't trust her to act any other way really.

Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh but sometimes, once you know the way the land lies you have to accept it and work with it - rather than trying to fight it, or expecting it to change.
Bet you can't wait til you move :)
 
There's no way I'd have assumed she would carry out what you wanted, given that you texted, didn't receive a reply and she also works, sorry. So many times I've sent messages or had people message me and they haven't gotten through, due to poor reception or phone having a wobbly. On Friday for example I tried to phone a friend and she was supposed to call back to let me know something. I didn't get a call and kept trying to ring her, with no response. Turned out her son was rushed into hospital with a fever. Whilst things like this don't happen often, they do still happen.

As others have said, it's a lesson learnt. Hope your horse makes a full recovery and good luck looking for a new yard (at least you know which questions to pointedly ask when you go looking!).
 
Thanks all, i know texts dont always get through but i did try ringing several times and left a message aswell, and of course if id had the opportunity to speak with her id have told her face to face but it has all happnened quite fast. Found the lump sunday, called vet monday morning and came out tuesday morning. I havent seen yo since saturday, not unusual but really did try everything to get hold of her.
M_G thanks but not hopeful as even vet was pretty sure thats what it is, he's not covered for vets fees sadly as coming from spain and having spanish vetting they often dont accept them. Another mistake on my part then i guess, pretty crap owner all round really:(
 
Firsty sorry about your horse and fingers crossed that the issue is both non serious and easily treatable.
However IMO you dont entirely have the right to be annoyed with your YO.
You chose to get the vet out asap (i would have done the same) wihtout checking that the YO was available to assist with any post visit care.
You knew the YO worked.
You have been unhappy with the service the YO has been providing you with so this shouldnt have been a massive shock.
You chose to have the vets out when you couldnt stay with your horse due to work commitments (again i can toitally understand your desire for urgency - i'd be the same)
You relied on text etc to get a message to the YO knowing the issues you've already had with communications.

I have to say from what you wrote the YO could have thought she'd followed your instructions. You knew the YO was going to have to go back to work so maybe she read it as "can you see if hes ok and then turn him out whilst you're around". which she obviously did. I wouldnt have read your message as "and bring him back in less than an hour later before you go back to work"

I'm afraid i'd chalk it up to experience, keep my fingers crossed for your boy and go and find another yard more suited to your needs.
 
pookie said:
I read all that expecting to say something about it depending on what type of livery you're on but that I'd hope any YO would keep an eye out/follow instructions/have better communication in the event of a veterinary situation...but you're on FULL livery?! :eek: Yes, I'd be annoyed...I'd be moving post-haste :mad:
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+1.

DIY it would be your responsibility, but I'd expect better communication from yo/ym and personally we've been around for DIYers as horse comes first. Also turning out after being asked not too would concern me.

But reading you're on full... get the hell out!!

Pan
 
well, i'm with the OP on this one. If i was paying full livery for my horse i would expect that the YM should be contactable at the very least! I pay for DIY (albeit an excellent yard) and i am easily able to get in touch with our YM at pretty much any time of the day. Certainly in the mornings!

For full livery they should be accomodating your horses needs, whether that be attending the vet, making sure they're ok after vet visits or what. Full livery is full livery and i have to say i would not be happy that the YO worked full time as well as running the so called Full Livery yard - you can't accomodate a horses needs working full time!

I'd definitely find a new yard if it were me, Full Livery only yards seem to be all over the place and always have the best facilities....although with a stallion it might be harder i guess.

Good luck anyway and i'm glad your horse is ok. Maybe a word with the yard owner in the mean time would be a good idea, get some boundaries set so you both know exactly where you stand. :)
 
Natwood said:
M_G thanks but not hopeful as even vet was pretty sure thats what it is, he's not covered for vets fees sadly as coming from spain and having spanish vetting they often dont accept them. Another mistake on my part then i guess, pretty crap owner all round really:(
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Oi no one is saying you are a crap owner & sadly **** happens.. I am still going to keep everything crossed that its not a Melanoma ((((hug))))
 
OP i can understand your annoyance at your YO's apparent lack of care for your horse at a time when you're feeling worried. What i can't quite understand is your panic over a melanoma:confused: they are so common in greys it's almost a given that they will get them. It's very unusual for them not to be benign and the only time they cause problems is if they ulcerate. My big mares dock and anus is covered in them, she's 17 this year and has had them as long as i have had her, the only problem they have caused me is that the ones on her dock have made her tail grow slightly curly in places and it always looks messy!!
 
I am confused why you have asked if you have a right to be annoyed and then jumped on people when they have given you an answer you obviously didn't agree with.
If you ask people for their opinion then you will always get one if two you don't agree with. Either ignore it politely or don't ask for opinions if your going to argue and have a strop.

I really don't think its the yo fault really, she worlds
 
Stupid phone sorry, as I was saying the yo works full time of course she wouldn't be able to do as you wanted and tbf you did know she wouldn't be at yard during the day (might not have always been the case, but is now)

The texting and calls could just be she was busy. My yo asks for at least 24hrs notice before changes. If I hadn't spoken to her personally about it I wouldn't have left ny horse.
 
I do sympathise OP. It can be very hard to get a yard that will cater for stallions, and if you were lied to about the owners avaliability then I would be annoyed. Once you have actually moved its easy to think that you will stay a while and see how it goes, then when something like this happens you realise you do need 24/day onsite care. With my job I could not take time off as and when I needed as I was often abroad, so I did need a YO that was there for farriers, vets etc to take full care of the horse. Also if it is a small yard with very few liveries and you are friends with YO then yes, I can see why you are hurt that she was not interested in how your boy is.

I would make sure you get the horse vetted and insured asap though and you should at the very minimum have 3rd party liability already - particularly with a stallion. One colic surgery can cost £5000 and if you are not insured that can be any others savings down the drain and possibly no horse at the end of it either. Melanomas are common and may not be a problem, but insurers may now try and exclude all future skin conditions such as sarciods that are potentially a lot more serious so I can see why you are very upset. Its never nice to have a new 'perfect' horse have health problems, but he is still the horse you bought, and once you get to a nicer yard hopefully you will really start to enjoy him and will get good news from your vet :)
 
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