Would you be getting it Vetted?!

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Following on from a post further down it has got me thinking:

Ive had my boy on loan from September 2008 and i can buy him in April 2009 for £2000 (ETS: I will try and negotiate this)

He has one known issue and thats an asymmetrical pelvis which i have sorted out with my own money (and its hurt
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) anyway- he will always be slightly unlevel but there is a significant difference now and hes alot more happier/relaxed.

Ive never thought about getting him vetted tbh, he has seen the vet once when i noticed he wasnt 'right' trotted/lunged all sound and obv physio has done the rest.

Would you have him vetted before buying him?

Also: which vetting?

Ive had him for almost 7 months on loan so far, we've done lots of jumping/hacking out etc.

i wanted to reiterate: he is 100% SOUND.

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I wouldn't bother. You know he is unlevel, so won't pass a vetting anyway, plus he's not a lot and has stood up to what you want him to do, so why bother.

Not sure I would pay £2000 for an unsound horse mind.
 
You know this horse is not right in his pelvis and you know he is not completely sound.

Keep him on loan, but don't pay money for a horse that you already know is lame, and "slightly unlevel" is just a kinder way to say lame.
 
He is NOT unsound.. where did i say in my OP that he was? Please do correct me?

Im sorry but next time a horse fractures his pelvis i'll be sure to tell the vet that his 30 years experience of horses pelvis's are wrong and they are never sound.

He is 100% sound, always has been- he fractured his pelvis 3 years ago.
 
I would ring a vet and discuss the prognosis for him. I would want to know whether the pelvis would be an issue, how much of an issue it would be and when it was likely to become an issue.

It would also depend on my circumstances whether I then bought him......can you afford to keep him in years to come when/if he is unable to work? what do you want to do with him??
 
I would probs keep him on loan if possible. Your obviously happy with the his pelvis but I would still get him vetted. You know he'll fail but it may show up anything else that you may/may not be happy with. Vetting isn't about passing and failing nowadays its more about is the horse fit for purpose. I don't think any horse we've bought/sold over the last few years has passed a vetting propperly but all have been fit for purpose.
 
I voted for No- wouldnt bother...you know the horse and his history.....you know how to manage him...whats a vetting going to change?

I would poss ask for a reduction in the price, considering you've already forked out to sort the problem yourself.....but from pics I've seen he's a lovely boy.....
 
-vet has already seen him as mentioned in my OP.

Prognosis was perfectly fine for a RC home but obviously hes never going to take me around Burghley!

Take it easy on roads and make sure he keeps up his physio and there is no reason why he cant have a normal life.

The vet did some small flexions and lunged him/trotted him up (this was as the pelvis was noticed) the physio trots him up every time as does my farrier when i make him- even when he was in huge amount of pain when i first got him- he still trotted up sound.

Obv what the vet hasnt done is look at the other things (eyes, heart etc)
 
I wouldn't bother if it was me, i mean you know the horse well, you have sorted his problem out at your own expense and if you think he is fine with the work that you are doing and he is as you said 100% sound then I don't see really what it will achieve.

It might bring up more problems, but would they really bother you if he is up to the job? Or would it worry you senseless? I am a worrier so thst is probably why I wouldn't have the vetting done - why try to fix something that isn't broken?

Vetting might interfere with your insurance also. But on the other had would it give you something to bargain with if you didn't want to pay the full £2000?

Got any piccies???
 
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But on the other had would it give you something to bargain with if you didn't want to pay the full £2000?

Got any piccies???

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That was sort of my reasoning behind it.

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(i know alot of you have seen these before- i really need to update)
 
oh how cute!!!!!!!!!! sorry for my bad spelling above!!!

Is there any point in talking to the person loaning to you? I mean perhaps you could ask for the money you have spent on getting the horse right off the asking price?

I must say in this climate £2k is quite a bit when the horse has had problems but if you know and trust him then he might be priceless to you. Plus I can imagine how you have bonded with him as he is so cute!!!

Good luck with whatever you decide, the only problem is, is that if you really want the horse and you pay for the vetting and nothing else shows up, you might get no money of the horse and have to fork out for the vetting too!!!
 
Yes, yes, yes but then again I am a novice. I recently was looking for a first pony for myself and my daughters, didn't have an experienced friend I could take with me so the vettings were invaluable for me. As for insurance you don't have to disclose a vet check on horses/pony's under a certain value do you??
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As for insurance you don't have to disclose a vet check on horses/pony's under a certain value do you??
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Yes you do.
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Vet has already said ok for RC, so the horse cant do more than that, but even if I was doing RC activities I'd want to know if there were any other concerns or areas that you may need to keep an eye on be it on loan or if you were buying the horse, makes no difference your still the ones that's riding it and paying for any future treatment.

As for if I'd pay 2k for the horse....it wouldn't be fare of me to comment without seeing it, but considering you could get a horse without any limitations, then I suppose if I had to say yes or no, then I'd say no, but if you like the horse and its everything you want, then go for it.
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I wouldn't be buying it tbh. But if I did I would have it vetted - 5 stage. It would fail, and I then wouldn't buy. There are other horses out there that don't have known problems - just heaps waiting to surprise you at a later date. I'd want to start with a clean sheet.

Keep him on loan if you can, but I honestly wouldn't part with any money for him.
 
The vet who vet checked the pony I went onto purchase said to me if I am specifically asked if I have carried out a vet check by an insurer then I have to show his report if I am not asked then don't volunteer the information.
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I took out horse insurance and on the application form it said 'is the horse purchased worth more than blah blah blah, I answered no and was told to skip to next question had I answered yes (and I think the value was £3000) it said a vet check was required.
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Although i appreciate your comments regarding his price and whether you would or wouldnt pay the money for him- its not my question.

My question would be whether you would pay the addtional money to have him vetted and what vetting would you choose.

In regard to buying him i am still unsure myself, i do understand that in the current climate £2000 for a horse with a problem is expensive.. however if anyone is able to find me a coloured at 15hh between 6-12yrs, lightweight, local and for £2000 with no problems then please do so because ive not had any luck myself.
 
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I've just changed my mind. Buy him for 2K and either have, or don't have him vetted.

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Have i annoyed you with my comment?

I wasnt trying to be difficult: I do fully appreciate everyones comments but the 2k isnt set in stone so everyone focusing on it just defers from my question.
 
Yes and 5* you are paying money for him and he is old enough to be ridden so as far as I am concerned this is the only answer. I would get a £500 horse vetted, the vet bills for not can be extorinate!
 
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. Me? You should know by now that I don't get annoyed by anyone or anything said on this forum ... no I just started to chuckle away at your thread, so thought I'd do a bit of devils advocate nonsense, as is my way
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*sniggers*
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. Me? You should know by now that I don't get annoyed by anyone or anything said on this forum ... no I just started to chuckle away at your thread, so thought I'd do a bit of devils advocate nonsense, as is my way
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I sort of knew, but sometimes you never can tell
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Naughtiness forgiven...
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I don't know what a full vetting costs these days, mine cost £110 14 years ago, but as other people have said, you know he is likely to fail. Why throw away that money? Then throw £2K after it? This horse is not worth £2k or even half that. I can see why you like him, he has a nice honest face but really, his conformation doesn't look brilliant - a bit "light" all over. The vet has said to take it easy on the roads - that means the concussion of a hard surface is likely to take its toll, and that will be arthritis a few years down the line. In your shoes I would keep loaning him and let the owner sort out the problems as they arise. As to the insurance, my mare was bought for £1500 and the vet noted that she had a thickened hind leg, but explained that it was only cosmetic. It is actually scarring due to lymphangitis, but when I insured her the policy came back with a bar on the tendons and ligaments of both hind legs and it has never been lifted.
 
Has he been properly diagnosed with a broken pelvis via an xray? If not it is just a guess and could be anything. Most unlevel looking pelvis are nothing to do with the pelvis at all, but problems with the hind legs. If I was buying him I would want to know what was wrong with him, but I wouldn't buy a horse that you can only take easy on a road - too much heart ache to come.
 
TBH - You have had him for 7 months and there is a further 2 months before you can opt to buy him. I would say don't have him vetted and if he is the one you want, go with it. A vetting is a snap shot in time, it isn't a crystal ball. You already have that snap shot, so unless you have x-rays and scans, I personally wouldn't bother. I also think it is better to pay 2k for a horse you know, love and trust, then it is to look else where and get something unknown to you or worst case senario bad mount!
 
i'd get it vetted- 5 stage. he'll fail on his pelvis but you already know that but it will show up if he has any other issues eg heart murmur or anything like that and might give you a bargaining tool with his owner/ give you peace of mind
he's really cute!
 
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