Would you be happy or just accept this...

I'm with the seller on this one, unless the tree has been altered (is it the sort of make that can be altered like the saddle company ones?), it is a medium regardless of the flocking.
 
lea840 said:
Thats what I was worried about... if the tree has been altered then putting it back to a wide fitting is only going to weaken the tree, I did notice that although it was advertised as a GP, when I've compaired it to the identical saddle I already have (Only in brown) I've noticed that the new one looks slightly more straight cut at the front, it didn't occur to me that it could of been cut back when altered...
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lea840 said:
The saddle had already been dispatched to me by the time I was told it had been over flocked and that it didnt fit her 'Narrow TB' shows you jusy how narrow this saddle is. It's a good make and like I said in fantastic condition... i didn't know if I was being cheeky in asking her to maybe refund something towards getting it fixed, as it isn't what was advertised...
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Sounds to me as if it is not the same model as you already have if it is straighter cut. Did the seller actually list the model of the saddle on the ad? Or just the Make say it was a GP. Most makes of saddles do several different models of saddles. Unless the seller had new flaps put on the saddle, that would not have been altered. New flocking does not alter the tree either, so the tree is either a medium or it isn't.



You are also presuming that the saddle is too narrow for the sellers narrow tb. Does she actually state it is too narrow? Or just she state it doesn't fit her narrow tb which suggests to me that the saddle is actually too wide.
 
As I 've sold a few saddles on Ebay... then I'm with the seller... she gave you the measurements D-D.. the size and loads of pictures.... she also told you that it had been re-flocked so as to fit HER horse... not yours....If your saddler has said that it's just too much flocking and it has to come out then what's the big issue..... you still have a perfectly good saddle for half the cost of purchasing new..... And as the others have said.... one saddle flocking doesn't mean it's going to fit another..... my size 14 jeans are not going to fit the hips of another persons size 14!!!! If she had a t/b and by the pics you've got a cob... then there ain't no way they are gonna be the same..... think your making a mountain out of a mole hill personally......
 
Seller is in the right IMO. The tree size is what's relevant, not the flocking. If the tree is a medium then there isn't alot you can do
 
Serenity087 said:
The only problem saddle we've had was the only saddle we ever paid to be fitted... figures...

(I'm team "back people cause problems to keep us lining their pockets" personally ;) )

I think thats perfectly resonable of you. I hope she accepts it because you could open an ebay claim which would be more costly for her!
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Haha...the voice of reason..I do like a good Osteo mind!
 
I think this is the risk you run if you buy sight unseen, second hand, off the internet. It sounds like you thought you were buying a medium saddle and thats what you got, albeit one which requires adjustment to fit your horses. Which is what I would expect with any saddle anyway - I've just bought a new one for £1600 which has required adjustment in the flocking after a couple of months to best fit my horse. Par for the course.
 
Hi I was a watcher of this saddle as it was fairly local to me. The advert description looked ok to me and there were plenty of pictures. If anyone want to check out to see for themselves the item number is 330688568074.
Just wanted to point out that as many people have said it's the tree width that counts not the flocking. Saddles can vary from being a bit on the narrow side of medium to being generous and needing to reflock a saddle is the purchasers responsibility not the seller. Unfortunatly I think it is is risk you take when buying online. You cannot assume that just because it is identical to a saddle that you already have that it will automatically fit. I have learned from working in a saddlers that even in indentical saddles there are subtle differences. Saddle makers use different trees even within the same models. Also saddlers buy 'off the peg' saddles and have them cutomized at the factory ie different trees or panels which will alter the fit.
If the advert had been deliberately misleading you would have a case but it looks like a case of 'buyer beware'.
Also you had work done on the saddle already so the saddle would not be returned in the same condition as you bought it. I think that would be the key point here for being unable to return it.
 
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That saddle is listed as GP/VSD. That would account for the straight cut

sorry op, but I don't think you have a case.
 
I'm sorry but you don't have a leg to stand on, having just looked at the advert from the item number posted in a previous comment and the seller has clearly said that the saddle would need reflocking. It is the tree width that counts not the amount of flocking and if I were to buy a saddle via ebay.. or indeed ANY second hand saddle I would want it to be reflocked and fitted to ensure it fits my horse. It is also unrealistic to expect a saddle to fit more than one horse perfectly.

In addition if you have had work done on the saddle already then it is no longer in the condition you bought it in so I don't believe you will have any case for refund/return. From the photos it looks in great condition and you can see how narrow it is from the photo of it sitting on the stable door. I would just be happy to have a nice saddle that you can fit to your horse perfectly with the aid of your saddler. I would not take the case any further as in my opinion the seller has done absolutely nothing wrong.
 
Just looked at the ebay advert, looks like a lovely saddle for a good price and the measurements are clearly stated from D to D the fact that it has been flocked tightly makes no difference to the tree and in fact you can see in the pictures that the flocking is fairly tight.
It states that it would need to be re-flocked to fit and this is the case of any saddle you buy why would you expect the seller to pay to have it fitted to your horse? :confused:
I notice the seller is private so you don't have any legal rights i.e. fit for purpose unless you can prove that is was deliberately misleading it is always buyer beware, if you were not sure about the description why did you not ask for clarification prior to the auction ending?
I also noticed the seller has a high amount of 100% positive feedback so it suggests they are genuine.
If I purchased any saddle I would get it checked and fitted to my horse and £40-£50 is very reasonable and what anyone would expect to pay above and beyond the cost of the saddle.
I'm a size 14 in M&S but a size 16 in Primark - perhaps I should seek compensation from Primark for making me fatter :o
 
I've just read this entire thread and looked at the advert as posted above and the seller clearly states that the saddle has been re-flocked and will need fitting to another horse. Therefore, IMHO, you don't have a leg to stand on in asking the seller to contribute to the cost of re-flocking. They have told you in the advert that it will need re-flocking!!!!!

Furthermore, as you have altered the saddle that you received then in doing that, you have accepted it. If you weren't going to accept it, then you should have arranged with the seller to return it in the ORIGINAL condition.

I'm afraid you don't have a leg to stand on. However, it's a nice saddle and you got a bargain. I'm sure once re-flocked and fitted to your horse it will serve you well.
 
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