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A 8yr old broodmare, not in foal for 2010, so which could be backed. Mare is a KWPN and at a professional yard, her price is a real bargain IMO.

Would you be iterested? Also, if you went to look at it what would you want to see???

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I would want to know for sure (ie not some story which could've been cooked up) why it hadn't been broken before. The vast majority of mares are broken and brought on, usually competed, before starting a stud career so there has to be a story... Injury? Illness? Plain old unrideable? If so, what has changed now? I'd want firm answers to these before I considered it as a project. Even then, I'd be wary, older horses can be harder to break and bring on than youngsters in oh so many ways, us old mares know all the tricks in the book...
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Not as a riding horse as there must be a story .If she is in a professional yard why havnt they broke her.
I personally would probably be not interested as a broodmare as she is not in foal and for some reason they are getting rid of her I would want to know why and see previous offspring first if the reason sounds plausible.
 
I would consider but for less than £1000 and as TD said would want to know why she is broken - It seems odd if she is at a pro yard why wouldnt they break her and sell her for more money as rideable - surely thats their living why wouldnt they maximise their profit on her? If she was mine i would break and sell so why wouldnt someone else - there has to be more to it?
 
I wouldn't consider it, I have know older mares at stud not be broken, but I also know they don't get tired and can be challenging to train!

I'd rather put my effort into something younger.
 
No becasue shes a mare, :/ and has had foals - find them very tempramental and hard to get on with. However, IF she was a gelding and was just unbroken then would deff consider - my first horse wasnt broken until he was an 8yr old and gave me the best few years of my life! I have also just got one who it 14 and hasnt been ridden since he was 6..
 
ahh, I wouldnt neccesarily write her off! It would depend on the horse and the story behind it.

My first horse wasn't broken in untill she was 9 and she had been a broodmare. I was lucky enough to get the stiff, cantankerous but brilliant horse when she was 17. She was the bravest most genuine mare you could ever wish for and she took me from too scared to jump a X pole to winning PC areas so I wouldnt rule this mare out!
 
I don't personally like KWPNs, but that's not relevant. If they had plausible answers to the questions TD asked, then why not? I much prefer mares to break than a gelding, although I would want to see her attitude to life. If she's a grumpy old baggage, then no way. I know a little mare who wasn;t broken until she was 8, and an 8yo shild, and her mother did it, and turned it into a little event pony
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we have broodmares that are well bred and unbroken, one has just come in now at 8 to be broke and is proving to be very easy. ours have just somehow missed each winter when others have come in to be broke or if we have been AI'ing mares in the spring and an unbroke one has been ovulating when we ve needed to use the semen they get put in foal!! so dont write her off just because shes older and unbroken, temprament is everything and that doesnt alter if she was 3 or 13!! maybe she could be mellower. we are a proffessional yard that breeds and produces so yes we could make more money if we brought them in broke and produced them BUT time is sometimes against us so we have sold mares before now that were older and unbroken, not because theres anything wrong with them purely for the fact they rnt in foal and its a long time till the spring

so go and look and trust your judgement
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The thing is about some breeders , espec with breeders of KWPN's in Holland is that they select their very best fillys to be used as broodmares. The ones that loose jump/look the best as 3 year olds go straight into the broodmare band and stay there as broodmares.
This is because some breeders believe that a mare can only have one job- either as a performance horse or a broodmare- not both.For some reason, the body cannot 'do' both jobs well.
Jan Greve ( owner of Voltaire and Guidam) said exactly this in a article some years ago- now this policy is necessary in order to breed the very best horses.
So that could well be the story with this mare here. Or it could not. Who knows.
 
I would be wary - Caron has lovely horses, I know two people who have bought from there and are thrilled with them, and she is definitely someone I would go to if looking for a horse, she has been completely straight with the people I know who have bought from there - but the other broodmares on that page who can be ridden are described as such. This one has not taken in foal and is not mentioned as a ridden prospect. Why? You could end up with something that is barren and unridable!
 
As SC said, and I doubt it would be cheap given that they say this about a seven year old: "she is not in foal this year and has been long reined ready for breaking. We are short of time at the moment so would sell her off cheaply at £2500 ono" Or if cheap there's probably a damn good reason for it
 
It does say in H&H that she can be backed, and the price is lower in there too..
..but such a low price in a place with maga buck horses does worry me a bit.
 
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As SC said, and I doubt it would be cheap given that they say this about a seven year old: "she is not in foal this year and has been long reined ready for breaking. We are short of time at the moment so would sell her off cheaply at £2500 ono" Or if cheap there's probably a damn good reason for it

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That is cheap for Rumer Stud, v cheap
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Not all their horses are mega bucks.. someone I knew was looking for an older RC type horse and they went to see some nice looking ones at that yard that were 3-4k, remember it is coming up to christmas and they may be wanting to just shift her. I would call and make your mind up then.
 
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Not all their horses are mega bucks.. someone I knew was looking for an older RC type horse and they went to see some nice looking ones at that yard that were 3-4k, remember it is coming up to christmas and they may be wanting to just shift her. I would call and make your mind up then.

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I know someone who bought one from there for under 5K but it had only been backed a month and was a Chestnut mare! Lovely horse though, it was everything they promised and more.

Compared to what most of them there cost, £2.5K is cheap!
 
is it for you or to sell on?

if to sell on, i would keep looking.... unless the mare can be seen working on lunge/long reins and tacked up and is under £800.
 
I'm not sure I'd trust a stud who says 'ready to be covered by the mare of your choice'
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.... they might need a little bit of educating in the facts of life before they breed sucessfully!
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I'm not sure I'd trust a stud who says 'ready to be covered by the mare of your choice'
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.... they might need a little bit of educating in the facts of life before they breed sucessfully!
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lol, maybe that's why this mare isn't currently in foal !
 
i would say depends what you want to do with it. If you wanted to sell it on i would look for something younger as they sell better, and obviously is there a reason why it hasn't been broken? There's no harm in phoning up anyway
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CN is an excellent dealer with some gorgeous horses but she knows EXACTLY what she is about. If a horse there is cheap there are good reasons - she will be straight but you need to ask the right questions, it's not her job to fill in the gaps. Not somewhere I'd go to find a bargain, she is well aware of the market value of her stock.
 
Well, I am sort of indirectly looking for a project to sell on and fund the eventing.

Opionions considerd, may just ring up tomorrow as theres no harm in having a nosey!
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Well, I am sort of indirectly looking for a project to sell on and fund the eventing.

Opionions considerd, may just ring up tomorrow as theres no harm in having a nosey!
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I am afraid knowing the stud and what they want, I think this one will burn your fingers as she is probably a failure as a broodmare as well .I wouldnt waste my time as they are not exactly on your door step.
 
I think if a place like that think she is only worth marketing at £2500 the chances of you being able to to do anything to add value to her will be slim/ none. There will definitely be a reason she is "cheap" - but in actual fact she is not cheap as an unbroken 8 year old!! Different if it was half the price in an inexperienced home but these people will know their horses and there will be no giveaways.

If you want a project you would be far better going for an ex racehorse. Can pick them up for very little and if you pick the right one could get it going very quickly for eventing. I also think a TB far more popular as an eventer than a KWPN.
 
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