Shantara
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Well, it's been going on since before I joined (11 years ago) and none have ever got lice or a nasty skin condition from it
Would you be upset...?
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Well, it's been going on since before I joined (11 years ago) and none have ever got lice or a nasty skin condition from it
Alphamare
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This is why I refuse to keep horses with other people. The complete disregard of other people's property is disgusting! I would never touch another personS things without asking and it leaves me enraged to hear that this happens.
To the person on here who thinks it's acceptable, I have no words! We all work long and hard to afford our horses and takings someone's stuff without asking is not borrowing it's theft!!!
To the person on here who thinks it's acceptable, I have no words! We all work long and hard to afford our horses and takings someone's stuff without asking is not borrowing it's theft!!!
StormyMoments
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i would be really pissed off tbh, i used to let people borrow my exercise sheet but then it begun to take the piss when i was hacking out and people would ask me if they could use it on their horse while hacking with me.. err no its still mine, also people breaking things and i dont like people borrowing things like girths etc as mine are leather, so expensive and im dubious about what their horse might have (ringworm etc) as i dont want my horse having it too! 
Merry Crisis
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i would be really pissed off tbh, i used to let people borrow my exercise sheet but then it begun to take the piss when i was hacking out and people would ask me if they could use it on their horse while hacking with me.. err no its still mine, also people breaking things and i dont like people borrowing things like girths etc as mine are leather, so expensive and im dubious about what their horse might have (ringworm etc) as i dont want my horse having it too!
Thank god I dont keep mine at a livery yard............ ringworm, lice FFS!
Janette
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I work hard, to earn money to buy things I need.
I don't appreciate having to search a darkened farmyard at 7am to find my mucking out gear.
I don't appreciate having to empty my wheelbarrow of somebody elses muck before I can use it.
I don't appreciate seeing my horses rugs on somebody elses horse!
Grooming kits should one for each horse - stops nasties being transferred.
It all comes down to respect for other people in the end. I don't mind lending stuff, but in my eyes, borrowing without asking is stealing.
And to the person who uses their friends shampoos etc. - you wouldn't be my friend for very long if you did that. Buy your own!
I don't appreciate having to search a darkened farmyard at 7am to find my mucking out gear.
I don't appreciate having to empty my wheelbarrow of somebody elses muck before I can use it.
I don't appreciate seeing my horses rugs on somebody elses horse!
Grooming kits should one for each horse - stops nasties being transferred.
It all comes down to respect for other people in the end. I don't mind lending stuff, but in my eyes, borrowing without asking is stealing.
And to the person who uses their friends shampoos etc. - you wouldn't be my friend for very long if you did that. Buy your own!
Moggy in Manolos
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My sentiments exactly /\
amage
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I keep mine at OH's yard which we run together and we jointly do all the work. Even so I still would not borrow stuff of his without asking first and he mine! It's just basic respect
MissTyc
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I have an open stable policy - as long as stuff is there and CLEAN when I need it, I am happy for it to be used in between.
Some items are off limits, however - numnahs, rugs, coolers.
Bridles & saddles goes without saying (I hope!) ....
Our horses run as a herd so shared grooming kits not really a problem.
Some items are off limits, however - numnahs, rugs, coolers.
Bridles & saddles goes without saying (I hope!) ....
Our horses run as a herd so shared grooming kits not really a problem.
moodymare123
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Defo upset.
Its just plain rude, just bugs me how it can be just a simple question to ask whether you can use something!
Its just plain rude, just bugs me how it can be just a simple question to ask whether you can use something!
Niddlynoo
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I lent someone a rug (admittedly didn't need it at the time), next thing I knew she had SOLD it to someone else on the yard.
OK, it was an old FalPro, not worth loads, but when I needed it back the other person said they had paid for it in good faith and the original person I lent it to refused to speak to me!
Wheel barrows are my bugbear - if you use it, empty it and put it back so I can use it (and don't make me wait for you to finish first).
OK, it was an old FalPro, not worth loads, but when I needed it back the other person said they had paid for it in good faith and the original person I lent it to refused to speak to me!
Wheel barrows are my bugbear - if you use it, empty it and put it back so I can use it (and don't make me wait for you to finish first).
CBFan
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I would be more than upset!!!
I am more than happy to lend stuff to people for them to try before they buy but all within reason. to discover someone brazenly using my stuff - especially expensive tack or rugs is just disrespectfull! I have worked increadibly hard to afford all of my belongings...my motto is, if you can't afford it, you shouldn't have it!!
and that comes down to 'all the little things' too... if you can't afford your horse's most basic needs - first aid equipment, mucking out tools basic, well fitting, good quality tack... you shouldn't have one!!
Sorry... rant over.
I am more than happy to lend stuff to people for them to try before they buy but all within reason. to discover someone brazenly using my stuff - especially expensive tack or rugs is just disrespectfull! I have worked increadibly hard to afford all of my belongings...my motto is, if you can't afford it, you shouldn't have it!!
and that comes down to 'all the little things' too... if you can't afford your horse's most basic needs - first aid equipment, mucking out tools basic, well fitting, good quality tack... you shouldn't have one!!
Sorry... rant over.
GingerWhinger
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I would be severely P'eed off!!
I have lots of stuff collected over many years, and a lot of it does not fit either of my current horses so I tend to use it as 'spares' for my liveries lacking an extra NZ when theirs is wet, being repaired, their boots are clean and not wanting to dirty them on T/O etc etc and this I do off of my own back so I do not mind.....
When people go in to my trunk/boxes etc and help themselves to sprays or brushes etc as long as they are returned I tend not to worry too...
It is 'personal' items being 'borrowed' I do not like.
One girl on the yard borrowed Musto a jacket of mine a few times and I didnt mind, when she took it home to wash I was grateful, I thanked her and took it back, hung it up in the tack room only to find the next day it had gone, she arrived wearing it later that day - 3 months later when she was still wearing it and refusing to even acknowledge it was once mine I was livid!
I also had some Roeckl cream gloves purely for competing in, kept them in the same place in a box in the tack room knowing if I left them there I would be able to find them when next needed...... They have totally vanished and funnily enough no one has seen them - There are only 4 of us so unless the glove fairies took them one of those B**ars on the yard has them.
They are not pricey but were a gift and had sentimental value.
Sooo long rant over, I would have to say something, it is just plain rude! You, like me work hard for a nice things so why should someone else reap the benefits!!!
I have lots of stuff collected over many years, and a lot of it does not fit either of my current horses so I tend to use it as 'spares' for my liveries lacking an extra NZ when theirs is wet, being repaired, their boots are clean and not wanting to dirty them on T/O etc etc and this I do off of my own back so I do not mind.....
When people go in to my trunk/boxes etc and help themselves to sprays or brushes etc as long as they are returned I tend not to worry too...
It is 'personal' items being 'borrowed' I do not like.
One girl on the yard borrowed Musto a jacket of mine a few times and I didnt mind, when she took it home to wash I was grateful, I thanked her and took it back, hung it up in the tack room only to find the next day it had gone, she arrived wearing it later that day - 3 months later when she was still wearing it and refusing to even acknowledge it was once mine I was livid!
I also had some Roeckl cream gloves purely for competing in, kept them in the same place in a box in the tack room knowing if I left them there I would be able to find them when next needed...... They have totally vanished and funnily enough no one has seen them - There are only 4 of us so unless the glove fairies took them one of those B**ars on the yard has them.
They are not pricey but were a gift and had sentimental value.
Sooo long rant over, I would have to say something, it is just plain rude! You, like me work hard for a nice things so why should someone else reap the benefits!!!
Bikerchickone
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I can't believe how nice some of you are!! A car? A trailer? Clothing??? I must be incredibly mean and selfish! Yes I would lend things to someone asking permission, but I'd want them back right away! Would never put up with being told my stuff wasn't mine!
We all work hard for our stuff because it all costs so much. People who carelessly borrow and break things are IMHO disrespectful and rude! Go work for your own stuff, pay for it and see how you like it when someone else trashes it!
We all work hard for our stuff because it all costs so much. People who carelessly borrow and break things are IMHO disrespectful and rude! Go work for your own stuff, pay for it and see how you like it when someone else trashes it!
Arizahn
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I prefer if people ask me. I don't mind loaning my stuff out in the slightest. I do like to know who is borrowing it and when/how long/how much, etc.
EG- Things like hoof pick, lunge whip, lead rope, lunge line, hoof oil, shampoo, baby oil, purple spray, the odd carrot or scoop of chaff/pony nuts to help lure a horse in from field - no problem. Just let me know.
Things like bandages, poultices, dressings, ask me first - unless it's an emergency then just let me know when you can.
But...rugs, tack, brushes...no way. Do not touch these. Why? Simple. My mare has rain scald. She came to me with it from her last home and I don't want it spreading. (It is slowly improving
)
They are more than welcome to use my yard brush and/or mucking out basket though. As long as they are put back where they should be afterwards.
EG- Things like hoof pick, lunge whip, lead rope, lunge line, hoof oil, shampoo, baby oil, purple spray, the odd carrot or scoop of chaff/pony nuts to help lure a horse in from field - no problem. Just let me know.
Things like bandages, poultices, dressings, ask me first - unless it's an emergency then just let me know when you can.
But...rugs, tack, brushes...no way. Do not touch these. Why? Simple. My mare has rain scald. She came to me with it from her last home and I don't want it spreading. (It is slowly improving
)They are more than welcome to use my yard brush and/or mucking out basket though. As long as they are put back where they should be afterwards.
NewSeeker
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Personally I wouldn't dream of using anyone else's things, especially without asking first. I recently moved onto a livery yard with just three other liveries in our block, who were complete strangers to me initially. I am the only one with a wheelbarrow and from day one the other three liveries automatically assumed they could use it without asking me and have since made no attempt to obtain their own wheelbarrows, they even use my fork and brush if I am not there (I can tell by the way they are postioned afterwards), also without asking. I have previously been on yards where people tend to use any wheelbarrow that is available, especially if they are all kept in a row, but most people stuck to using their own. What annoys me now is that it is taken for granted that my wheelbarrow, can be used by anyone, without asking and the fact that they won't buy their own or even one between them. My barrow (fork and brush) is often left caked in muck and is obviously going to wear out quicker with four times the use. I would not buy a horse and take a place on a livery yard if I was not prepared to buy my own equipment. I could understand if they had asked first and were going to eventually buy their own, but it seems they are content to save themselves the bother and just use mine instead.
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Batgirl
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God, I would be livid as others have said!
I bought a garden stool (it is perfect for plaiting and cost £7 from Homebase), show day rolls around and I had to balance on a block because someone had swiped it. Then I felt bad when I saw who had it and said 'could I have my plaiting stool back?' 'Oh sorry I saw *** using it and assumed it was a yard one' which is my worst problem. My good friend and owner of my horse and the yard has permission to use anything (I mean anything as I have a horse because of her) and she says the same to me. (I once got a pmsl answerphone message panicking because she couldn't work out how to switch my head torch off, she was so ridiculously apologetic). Unfortunately other people see this and expect the same.
Also as I loan my horse it should technically come with all tac but I have bought my own stuff steadily as I hate borrwoing even though it is part of the deal, I have my own rugs, bridle, grooming kit, bit etc (practically the only things that aren't mine are his saddle and hoof boots)
And the wheelbarrow thing is not an issue now but when I was DIY borrowing wheelbarrows was terrible, flat tires, handles of, still full, hidden in corners
I bought a garden stool (it is perfect for plaiting and cost £7 from Homebase), show day rolls around and I had to balance on a block because someone had swiped it. Then I felt bad when I saw who had it and said 'could I have my plaiting stool back?' 'Oh sorry I saw *** using it and assumed it was a yard one' which is my worst problem. My good friend and owner of my horse and the yard has permission to use anything (I mean anything as I have a horse because of her) and she says the same to me. (I once got a pmsl answerphone message panicking because she couldn't work out how to switch my head torch off, she was so ridiculously apologetic). Unfortunately other people see this and expect the same.
Also as I loan my horse it should technically come with all tac but I have bought my own stuff steadily as I hate borrwoing even though it is part of the deal, I have my own rugs, bridle, grooming kit, bit etc (practically the only things that aren't mine are his saddle and hoof boots)
And the wheelbarrow thing is not an issue now but when I was DIY borrowing wheelbarrows was terrible, flat tires, handles of, still full, hidden in corners
Sussexbythesea
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Are you absolutely sure your friend doesn't mind you using up her shampoo etc? unless it's an emergency and you replace it right away most people would be annoyed if done regularly. I don't know anyone who likes to subsidise other peoples horses it's damned expensive.
angelish
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i'm another one that would be annoyed 
i'd also be annoyed at someone using all my shampoo and leaving me with non ,go and buy your own shampoo
i used to lend anything to anyone (within reason) but i'm now very spiteful
lady been on my yard 2 years now with 2 horses ,she has yet to buy a wheel barrow/folk/shovel/brush and is happily using everyone elses
it might sound petty but this annoys me because she goes on holidays often ,boasts about looking for her own place (yard) things i will never afford yet she uses my things that i have to repair/replace, at least she only left my barrow full once
she turned her horse out in a stable rug ,it got soaked YO lent her an outdoor rug while awaiting a repair to hers ,horse is still wearing it 2 months later
a friend is currently working her way through a bottle of my shampoo (she's used all my hibi scrub) and keeps saying oh ill bring a full bottle down you don't mind do you
what am i meant to say ,smile and say oh don't worry
i'd also be annoyed at someone using all my shampoo and leaving me with non ,go and buy your own shampoo
i used to lend anything to anyone (within reason) but i'm now very spiteful
lady been on my yard 2 years now with 2 horses ,she has yet to buy a wheel barrow/folk/shovel/brush and is happily using everyone elses
it might sound petty but this annoys me because she goes on holidays often ,boasts about looking for her own place (yard) things i will never afford yet she uses my things that i have to repair/replace, at least she only left my barrow full once
she turned her horse out in a stable rug ,it got soaked YO lent her an outdoor rug while awaiting a repair to hers ,horse is still wearing it 2 months later
a friend is currently working her way through a bottle of my shampoo (she's used all my hibi scrub) and keeps saying oh ill bring a full bottle down you don't mind do you
what am i meant to say ,smile and say oh don't worry
Tormenta
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Well, it's been going on since before I joined (11 years ago) and none have ever got lice or a nasty skin condition from it
Mine all have their own separate grooming kits and they all live together as a herd, I was taught to only use the one grooming kit on each horse
Echo Bravo
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Well what I've paid for is mine and nobody elses. Maybe Starbucks also keeps her horse, by borrowing said friends feed/hay you never now.
Tiffany
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No I wouldn't be upset I'd be very annoyed.
hackedoff
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I would be furious. All my stuff including my wheelbarrow is locked in my tack shed for good reason. The problem with 'borrowing' is that it seems rarely to be linked with either asking first or returning the item.
The other maddening thing is when people go 'oh it was only your lunge whip/barrow/tack as though these grow on trees. In fact they are bought with money and no matter how old and tatty the item is it almost invariably means paying the new items rsp to replace a borrowed item.
To put it in perspective to buy a new wheelbarrow would cost the equivilant of one and a half to two days of my husband's pay packet for his night shift, which means we would be short that money to pay for essentials such as food.
I wonder how many of the people who gaily use other folks stuff actually bother to think about how much they are costing other people and how hard those people probably work to pay for their own horses let alone subsidising scroungers..
The other maddening thing is when people go 'oh it was only your lunge whip/barrow/tack as though these grow on trees. In fact they are bought with money and no matter how old and tatty the item is it almost invariably means paying the new items rsp to replace a borrowed item.
To put it in perspective to buy a new wheelbarrow would cost the equivilant of one and a half to two days of my husband's pay packet for his night shift, which means we would be short that money to pay for essentials such as food.
I wonder how many of the people who gaily use other folks stuff actually bother to think about how much they are costing other people and how hard those people probably work to pay for their own horses let alone subsidising scroungers..
niagaraduval
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Yes, I would be upset !
muffinmunsh
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Emergencies ... Yes, no problem.
Anything else ... I'd expect to be asked in advance... Or be very angry.
Guess I have had too many things disappear or get ruined over the years...
Anything else ... I'd expect to be asked in advance... Or be very angry.
Guess I have had too many things disappear or get ruined over the years...
Roasted Chestnuts
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If I turned up and they had just taken I would be marching into the school to tell them to take it off.
Im a person who if someone asks 9/10 times I will say yeah sure its in my box, my friends will testify to this that Im free with my gear as long as I trust the person taking it to look after it
But if somone had just to take then Im afraid I would be taking it back ASAP and they wouldnt be borrowing anything else.
Im a person who if someone asks 9/10 times I will say yeah sure its in my box, my friends will testify to this that Im free with my gear as long as I trust the person taking it to look after it
But if somone had just to take then Im afraid I would be taking it back ASAP and they wouldnt be borrowing anything else.
diggerbez
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this post has made me smile i'm a complete b!tch about my things...obviously i don't mind my very good friend borrowing anything as i know that i am welcome to borrow her things too...i am also happy to lend things to people but only if they ask- can't stand it when people think its ok to just take without asking (in my book that is stealing!)
i even have my wheelbarrow padlocked up! i am totally fine with other people using it but with 50 horses on my yard it was getting to the point that everytime i arrived i had no barrow to use / had to go hunting to find mine. yes its "only" a barrow but it cost me £50....so go and buy your own! if you can't afford one thats fine but why should I have to pay for a barrow for you to use? ditto...why should i buy grooming kit/schooling whips/shampoo etc etc for other people to use? i don't mind as a one off but some people take the mick. i had a pessoa and i lent it to someone as i wasn't using it and then i said i was going to sell it and did she want to buy it- she said no- but if i hadn't sold it could she still keep using it- i put it on ebay that night- either she needed it or she didn't- but why the hell should i be out of pocket to suit her?! another wanted to use my clippers- erm...how about buy your own/pay someone - instead of using mine!! grrrrr!
so yes i look like a complete cow but its only because people have taken the pi$$ out of me...
i'm a complete b!tch about my things...obviously i don't mind my very good friend borrowing anything as i know that i am welcome to borrow her things too...i am also happy to lend things to people but only if they ask- can't stand it when people think its ok to just take without asking (in my book that is stealing!)i even have my wheelbarrow padlocked up! i am totally fine with other people using it but with 50 horses on my yard it was getting to the point that everytime i arrived i had no barrow to use / had to go hunting to find mine. yes its "only" a barrow but it cost me £50....so go and buy your own! if you can't afford one thats fine but why should I have to pay for a barrow for you to use? ditto...why should i buy grooming kit/schooling whips/shampoo etc etc for other people to use? i don't mind as a one off but some people take the mick. i had a pessoa and i lent it to someone as i wasn't using it and then i said i was going to sell it and did she want to buy it- she said no- but if i hadn't sold it could she still keep using it- i put it on ebay that night- either she needed it or she didn't- but why the hell should i be out of pocket to suit her?! another wanted to use my clippers- erm...how about buy your own/pay someone - instead of using mine!! grrrrr!
so yes i look like a complete cow but its only because people have taken the pi$$ out of me...
GCC
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yes, i would be furious! i have spent years building up good quality tack for my horses and i would be rather insulted if someone used it without asking. Luckily it doesn't happen as i have my own yard, however i did lend a "friend" an equiport numnah i'm rather partial to at a champs show and did i ever get it back? nope...
sakura
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I'd be annoyed if they hadn't asked, mostly cos they all know I'm happy to lend people things, if only they ask
this has never happened to me tho, and I lend my wheelbarrow every day
this has never happened to me tho, and I lend my wheelbarrow every day
hackedoff
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Diggerbez, I'm with you on this one! The best was when I worked my ass of to buy a single IW 403 trailer. I wasn't certain pony would go in one and couldn't find one to loan to try. Wow the amount of new friends I gained the week it arrived at the yard LOL. I ended up padlocking the ramps after I noticed several fellow liveries eyeing it up and muddy footprints inside. I was also told by some one that it was great that I had bought it as she could now practice loading her gynormous cob into it, as she wasn't sure how he would load and it meant that she wouldn't have to buy a trailer to see...
I used to chain my wheelbarrow up and was amused to her the person on the yard who has been linked to the majority of petty thefts commenting on how pathetic I was as it was only a small barrow. Needless to say she hasn't bought one of her own.
I'm much happier being thought of as tight git than as an easy mug!
Obviously if its a case of some one in need who wants a scoop of chaff, some hay etc I'm always happy the help providing they have asked first!
I used to chain my wheelbarrow up and was amused to her the person on the yard who has been linked to the majority of petty thefts commenting on how pathetic I was as it was only a small barrow. Needless to say she hasn't bought one of her own.
I'm much happier being thought of as tight git than as an easy mug!
Obviously if its a case of some one in need who wants a scoop of chaff, some hay etc I'm always happy the help providing they have asked first!
NewSeeker
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Eight months on and the other liveries are still using my wheelbarrow and my fork (which is now bent) despite them saying 'I must get myself one of these' but not doing. However, I cannot afford to fund other peoples' horsekeeping and if my tools break I won't be buying them new ones! I wish I could say - OK borrow my items if you are desperate and please ask first, but don't take the mick - and make the effort to get your own. I mean, would you have a baby but keep borrowing someone else's pram? - but I don't want to cause any tension.
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