Would you be worried if you bought a young horse a year older than thought ?

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Just bought a new pony, five year old and green which is fine for a five year old obviously. Given passport, all completely legit as a five year old, first and original passport.
out of interest just facebook stalked breeder and there are several pictures and comments of said pony as a foal and yearling but born in 2014 not 2015 so six not five, a whole year older.
im a bit ?
no aspersions on seller and haven’t said anything to them, unless they are also into a bit of Facebook stalking have no indication that they knew.
just Makes me feel a bit uneasy and slightly cheated out of a year, am I being ridiculous? Feel free to say yes ?
 

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So pony was born in 2014 and not 2015? I’m assuming you didn’t buy directly from the breeder? It also puts a question mark over the passport surely? Is it a breed passport or a generic one?
It’s a breed passport , issued to breeder in 2018
d.o.b may 15
on stud facebook page there are photos of foal with mum in 2014 and as yearling in 2015, named as this pony and with mother named
 

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The age wouldn't bother me at all. The passport being wrong would, it's a very odd mistake for a breeder and vet to have made. As is not papering until the pony was already four. Is there a breed requirement that they can't have a breed passport they are over 3 years old when it's applied for? That might explain it, if so.
 

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It wouldn’t bother me if it was a horse I’d bought just to be a riding horse for me. But if I had bought them intending to do an age related show I’d be pretty peeved. But then most age class are 4+ so it won’t matter in this case but I’d hate to have bought a 2yo who was 3/4 for example lol

in this case the way I see it the pony is a year more mature in their body and mind and will probably take to further training much more easily and with less risk. Win win.
 
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It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. It's not like I would want to do age restricted classes or anything.

Most ponies/horses have to be registered with their breed society before they are 6months old or the turn of the year - whichever comes first. So to register an older pony would have cost a small fortune.

Maybe they didn't think the pony was good enough to be worth regsitering and didn't necessarily want their name next to it and changed their minds when the ugly duckling turned into a bit of a swan?

What stud book is the pony registered with?
 

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It would bother me that the passport is wrong in the event that I wanted to sell. It doesn't match your horse as it stands.

A client of mine once bought a horse she was told was 5. The passport said it was 4, and the dealer told her that the breeder must have made a mistake. Nope, the horse was definitely 4, and the dealer wanted the sale and knew the buyer wouldn't want a 4yo :confused:
 

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The age wouldn't bother me at all. The passport being wrong would, it's a very odd mistake for a breeder and vet to have made. As is not papering until the pony was already four. Is there a breed requirement that they can't have a breed passport they are over 3 years old when it's applied for? That might explain it, if so.
Yes that's strange as most breed societies insist on them being registered in the year of birth.
 

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Yes that's strange as most breed societies insist on them being registered in the year of birth.
And all passport agencies require by 12 months old, unless a breed society has earlier dates. (which as you say, is usually by the end of the year that the foal is born).
Std requirement is here: UK regs

OP, is your passport a duplicate or replacement? (It ought to be, and should be stamped as such too)
 

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Are you sure it’s the same foal? A mare have very similar looking foals particularly if they are full siblings . My horse looks almost identical to her year older full sibling , except he has a few spots on his bottom .
 

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If the horse wasn't passport as a foal there is a +/- 2 year error gap allowanble on the passport .... double check with the vet, he will explain.

Sadly, I know about this

I think that really only applies to older horses that were passported later in life when an accurate ageing might not have been possible? It’s not hard for a vet to age a young horse accurately when doing the markings chart for the passport application?
 

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I think that really only applies to older horses that were passported later in life when an accurate ageing might not have been possible? It’s not hard for a vet to age a young horse accurately when doing the markings chart for the passport application?
Even easier when it's the breeder who applies for registration with a breed society as they would have had to submit cover slips to breed society the year before, no need for vet to age when irrefutable evidence is already lodged with breed society (or should have been).
Mind you, most breeds will require blood typing if not registered in year of birth and/or no cover proof.
OP, which society?
 

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Must admit I’ve got my horse age wrong. His passport said date of registration so I thought that was his age. After flicking through the pages for his inoculations, I saw his date of birth. So he’s a year older than I’d had realised
 

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I will contact breeder and ask
def same foal as named in foal picture
def looks like original passport and passport in name of original breeder
so everything looks right, just not right according to their Facebook , and photo was put up on the 2014 date , not like that was mistakenly dated .
the stud and passport were from Northern Ireland , don’t know if different rules apply ?
anyway, will ask breeder
not a massive issue in grand scheme of things but you know how you buy a horse and something isnt quite right, then you worry
thanks guys.
 
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The only reason I could see for registering a horse a year late is to maybe clean up in the youngstock classes? I can’t see any way that it could be a genuine mistake- I’d like to hear what the breeder says.

Though it is very obvious the difference between a yearling and a foal, a 2yo and a yearling, a 3yo and a 2yo and 4yo and a 3yo.
 
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