Would you buy a horse with a box foot?

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One of my homebred warmbloods has a slightly boxy front foot. It has not caused him any problems.

Many years ago I was speaking to a German friend who said that they had more problems when the farrier tried to correct a boxy foot in an adult horse than if they left it alone. This was in the days when warmbloods often seemed to have boxy feet.
 

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Just the one box foot? I personally wouldn't knowingly do it, no - but it depends what you want to do with the horse?

I bought my mare as a rising two year old and didn't notice at the time that her front feet didn't quite match, neither did the vet, but it became more obvious as she grew. I keep her barefoot for many reasons, one of them is because of the mismatch. She has had lameness issues on her more upright foot which prevents her from doing the job I intended for her to do (dressage, jumping, general allrounder), whether that is related to the shape/mismatch I don't know for sure but it's likely. But she is beautiful inside and out, super easy to do and makes the most perfect hacking horse so I'm delighted to have her!
 

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I had a mare that every hoof was a box, it looked like she was on stilts, never lame, ever, even on hard ground in summer. Her frogs never touched the ground and were tiny. Just do not let anyone try and improve them. The other had a was completly pigeoned toed on one leg below the knee,but had a wide open draught foot, again no problems.
 

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My now retired warm blood had one foot smaller than the other so not box as such. He got it caught in a wire fence when he was a yearling and took the inside of his hoof off. It never did grow back properly. It didn't cause an issue until he did his check ligament on the other leg. I rehabbed him then because of the strain the bad foot/ leg took that check ligament went as well. I think if he had better feet I might gave avoided it.
 

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My horse was born with a boxy front foot, the farrier worked on it every 2 weeks from birth and I did all the physio with her. Today at 12 you would have to look very carefully to see any difference and it only shows when she is on week 5 and 6 of the shoeing cycle when her heel is slightly taller than the other foot.

For a potential purchase I would speak to a good vet and farrier and get their advice.
 

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For a potential purchase I would speak to a good vet and farrier and get their advice.

^^^ This. I think you need more information.

If you like the horse and it ticks all the boxes for you then (having already spoken to your vet & farrier) I'd make the seller a silly offer and see how they react. If you have a good farrier - and depending on the age of the horse - you might find the issue something that isn't really such a problem and might get sorted over time with good remedial farriery.

However, I'd speak to your vet & farrier in the first instance.
 

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My horse was born with a boxy front foot, the farrier worked on it every 2 weeks from birth and I did all the physio with her. Today at 12 you would have to look very carefully to see any difference and it only shows when she is on week 5 and 6 of the shoeing cycle when her heel is slightly taller than the other foot.

For a potential purchase I would speak to a good vet and farrier and get their advice.
This horse was born with it too. He is now 8 and it had not been a problem. I'm waiting to hear back from my farrier and will speak to my vet.
 

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^^^ This. I think you need more information.

If you like the horse and it ticks all the boxes for you then (having already spoken to your vet & farrier) I'd make the seller a silly offer and see how they react. If you have a good farrier - and depending on the age of the horse - you might find the issue something that isn't really such a problem and might get sorted over time with good remedial farriery.

However, I'd speak to your vet & farrier in the first instance.
Good advice. He is 8 with a grade 2 box foot and as yet it doesn't cause any issues. He's out competing in dressage and jumping 1.15.
 

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My best competition horse (and incidentally an approved, standing stallion) had one box foot in front. Never caused him any problem, and he didn't pass it on.
Do you know what grade of box foot it was? This one is a grade 2. It was born with it, is now 8 years old and was barefoot until it was 5. Was your shod? Currently out jumping at 1.15 which is high enough for me.
 

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Mine has 1 slightly boxy foot. Doesn't cause any issues. In fact, it's the other foot that causes the issues. Farriers never had a problem trimming the boxy one properly. The other one? Not so much....
Do you keep your horse barefoot? The breeder said this horse was barefoot until 5 years old
 

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Do you know what grade of box foot it was? This one is a grade 2. It was born with it, is now 8 years old and was barefoot until it was 5. Was your shod? Currently out jumping at 1.15 which is high enough for me.
I’m not familiar with grades, but it was pretty significant. He was shod. He was on the Canadian Olympic team after I sold him (dressage), and retired sound.
 

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I went to view a beautiful Polish warm blood mare, she was perfect and a dream to ride and drive, but one front foot was decidedly on the boxy side of what I wanted to see.

Luckily seller was more than happy to let me bring my farrier to give her a once over before I arranged vetting. (She was rather expensive for back in the day) My farrier loved her. Said he couldn't see it becoming a problem and in his experience it is not uncommon in Polish warmbloods. I have no idea if that is true or not.

After vetting I bought her and she was a dream. Last known to be living in very happy ancient retirement in Scotland with a good friend.
 

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What breed is the horse? I was shocked to read the other day of a study that found the congenital C6/7 vertebrae malformation in a very high number of horses. It causes the vertebrae to be asymmetric, which can cause this kind of issue because of unequal attachment of the shoulders to the legs. If the horse has TB blood and is pricey then I think I would want an xray to check. I read at the same time that the problems really begin to show at around 9 years old.
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I’ve had very good horses with uneven front feet. Would I chose to deal with the worry about it- no. If everything else was good, for the right horse and price I’d chance it again. To be fair with good farriery you often need to know the horse to tell.
 

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What breed is the horse? I was shocked to read the other day of a study that found the congenital C6/7 vertebrae malformation in a very high number of horses. It causes the vertebrae to be asymmetric, which can cause this kind of issue because of unequal attachment of the shoulders to the legs.

Oooh interesting, I've had a quick flick through online and found this: https://www.thirzahendriks.com/post/the-un-balanced-horse is this similar to the study you read?

My mare has always favoured her left fore which is the bigger, flatter foot, and will always graze with that leg forward and smaller, taller right fore behind. In pictures of her as a foal she is always doing the same thing.
She is an Oldenburg and seems boxy or mismatched feet are particularly common in warmbloods. The difference in her feet isn't massive but most noticeable right after a trim.
 

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What breed is the horse? I was shocked to read the other day of a study that found the congenital C6/7 vertebrae malformation in a very high number of horses. It causes the vertebrae to be asymmetric, which can cause this kind of issue because of unequal attachment of the shoulders to the legs. If the horse has TB blood and is pricey then I think I would want an xray to check. I read at the same time that the problems really begin to show at around 9 years old.
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No, it’s a knabstrupper
 

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I had a mare (TB ex broodmare) who had one box hoof. We had her for 2 years (bought as a 14 year old) and then she was diagnosed with navicular.
 
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