would you buy a horse with sarcoids?

would you buy a horse with sarcoids?

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same as title really, if the horse was sucessful as an alrounder eventer/hunter/dressage but had 2 sarcoids 1 removed i flat on back leg would you buy? how much would you expect to loose on the price for him? say he was worth 6k without how much would i realisticly get for him? thank you
 
Put it this way, I had a horse on trial from a rescue back in the summer who had a good few behind one of his ears, could see they were there but currently fur covered & "dormant" I loved him to bits & regardless of the sarcoids I would have kept him if I could have as he was such a lovely boy, just turned out he was better as a happy hacker. What Im trying to say is he meant more than they did.

Depends how much you like him & whether they bother you or not. If they're not in a place that would bother him e.g girth area it wouldnt put me off. Personal preference really :)
 
I voted yes but in reality it's an 'it depends'. If there were small, had stayed the same size for a while and were absolutely nowhere near any tack/ boot areas then yes. on the girth area, around noseband etc then no as they might in the future effect his ability to work.
 
Had a horse that suddenly developed several, after a year of treatment they had just about resolved. Then horse became ill and long story short was PTS with internal abcess. Sarcoids were probably related - low immune etc... So no would not touch horse with sarcoids as I now believe they can be a symptom of other issues ( though I realise this was a very rare and extreme example)
 
Yes, and I did.

He had a very poor immune system and had had three or four different owners/homes in the previous year. I used Global Herbs on him and over a period of a year and once he was happy and settled, the sarcoids dropped off and (fingers crossed) have not re-appeared two years later - I was a bit worried when we moved yards that stress might cause them to re-appear but he settled happily and they didn't.

But it may not be the same for all, and I guess they may come back at some point in the future.
 
I think it depends really on where they are , what type they are etc and you have to think about can your afford the treatment if they need it. I brought a tb with 4 or 5 no bigger than my little finger nail on her belly and back leg! At one point 6 months later I was beging to regret my decision as they had spread and some were golf ball size! I did a fair bit of research online and on forums and ringed a few of the bigger ones while using thuja cream on them all at the same time which I found to stop them spreading and over the last few monts her immune system has clearly built up as they are now practically gone! The trouble is they aren't predictable!
 
i voted no but when both missy and taz were bought (both at 2 years old) they had them and they both went as the grew up but other than that no but then im not on the market for buying a horse and there are plenty of nice horses about who dont have them...
 
Depending on the nature of the sarcoids, and where they've appeared - then yes I would buy (and have done so).

Wouldn't particularly expect to see a reduction in price.
 
I voted yes as depends on price

I bought a pony with one, and she developed lots including chest and girth. However they have been liverpooled and now under control

I'm sure a period of stress probably caused this. If they needed more treatment than cream, then I would probably give up.
 
My friend bought one. It was a massive gamble - he failed the vetting because of them - he had a number of sarcoids all over his body which had been getting worse since she had known him (she had been schooling him for his previous owner for six months and fallen in love). One of the sarcoids was on his lip and if it grew even slightly it would interfere with his bit and as she wanted him for dressage bitless would not be an option. Previous owner said that if she went ahead with the purchase she would pay for the treatment with liverpool cream and sarcex etc so my friend bought him. Thankfully the treatment worked and he has been fine since (this is 2 1/2 years ago) but it could so easily have gone the other way. I think it is a classic case of heart ruling head. Would I have done the same thing? I like to think not but I'm not sure.
 
Kiz has sarcoids and yes ive spent a lot on treatment but I tell you what she is amazing and my horse of a lifetime so yes i'd do it all again x
 
As long as not on tack area I'd probably consider. If my friend ever sold hers (wouldnt happen) id still probably pay into the thousands for her. She has huge sarcoids but have never been a problem, vet recommended not to treat or you have to keep treating and may go worse. Old owner got current owner to promise she would never get the surgery done and pts if it came to it but spo far they've stayed the same and never caused issue
 
I voted yes but agree with Polo's Mum, it does depend on location. I have seen a lot of good horses with sarcoids which have had successful treatment to remove them. I have even heard that simply improving the diet has helped in one case, so I wouldn't write off a horse if it ticked all of the other boxes.
 
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I voted yes ,I have bought several horses with sarcoids but it depends on their type and were they are and I make an offer based from what from experiance of what I have spent getting rid of them, the price would have be low enough for me to be able to write the horse off without it being to financially painful, I would budget £2500 to treat them so if the horses value to me without the sarcoids was £6000 I would not pay more than £3000.
 
Answered 'yes' but would depend on:

- where it/they are
- that it/they are reflected in the price

I owned a fab sec d allrounder for several years that had sarcoids on his sheath, which never caused any issues, and sold him on with no problem.
 
I voted no as mine developed 2 small ones on his girth along with 3 others, he's had liverpool cream twice and the 2nd lot of scabs has just fell off. The rest only needed one treatment of liverpool cream but the girth ones are a bit stubborn and not entirely sure if they aren't still there as very small. Don't know if it's coincidental but the sarcoids were the first thing in a long line of serious issues with this horse. He would have been off work 8 months to date with them but as it is he does have soundness issues anyway.
 
If they were a young (2-3 years) when they developed them and had been successfully treated with no reoccurrence then yes because they probavly developed in tje first place because young horses dont yet have a fully developed immune system. but if they were a older horse when they developed I would be worried and would probably stay clear.
 
This is a tricky decision. I found a horse that I love but he had sarcoid picked up on the vetting.

The problems are that it will likely be excluded on your insurance and the only predictable thing about sarcoid is that it's not predictable.

Go on the university of liverpools website and search sarcoid. Knottenbelt is the UK expert and all the information you could ever need is there.

It depends how much you like the hors but generally if there is anything suspicious anywhere near tack I would be very cautious. There are plenty o horses without sarcoid and it is expensive to treat
 
Sorry that was a ramble.

I vote no but if I fell in love would not offer more than 2k as would want to keep my pennies for potential future treatment costs.
 
I have done so (last month, and a few years ago), and I would do so again, but as already said, depends on where they are (not on girth/bridle/eye area).

Have had a couple of horses which had a few, and were in a stressed/poorly state, and after 6-12 months of decent diet and happy living, they literally disappeared! Also have had horses which they did not alter...

Would not expect a reduction in price, but if I really liked the horse, I would not worry about them
 
I bought my 2 yr old earlier this year, not knowning he had scarcoids 2 tiny lumps on his chest, which appear to have disappeared on their own! so I think I would if the horse was right! would rather know before hand rather than find them once their winter coat has come out!
 
Thank you for all your replies, he has one inbetween his front legs which apparently developed from a martingale rub and one high up on the inside his back leg. both on the larger side one in back legs doesnt bother me one on front leg does slightly, but owners have said they will have they removed if i would like, he is 4 and the most amazing nice natured intelligent temprement. he was to sell eventually hence why i asked about price, i wanted to know how easy he would be to sell with them, will treat other one myself!
 
I know when I posted about it, most people said they were only a problem if they were in the places where they may rub! a martingale wouldn't have caused it, but it might have rubbed on it and made it worse! if they are happy to remove them then let them do it! not sure why they haven't done it already though?
 
I voted yes.

The most expensive horse I had passed a 5 stage vetting and x rays then got sarcoids 6 months later. He was insured and I treated him with the liverpool cream and they then went. I then had him for another 5 years all he didnt get one again.

So what I am saying is you can go get a perfect one to then have them down the line anyway.

If the horse is PERFECT in every other way and you don't want to do 'show' him (just in case there is a skin scar left over) then I would go ahead.

If of course there are other doubts then walk away.

The best horse I ever had failed a vetting on purchase....he was dead cheap at 1700 and was then the best horse I have ever had! not a sick or lame day in his life. Since then I have paid much much more and all have had serious issues even though they passed 5 stage vetting and x rays.

At the end of the day sarcoids are a blemish I think and what animal doesn't have some weakness or something somewhere.
 
I have bought one with sarcoids before but would never ever
Do it again. Cost me thousands of pounds to try to get rid of them with no luck. I give him away in the end nobody would buy him. My horse also had then inbetween front legs think started as a rub, he then got one on side of his face from the bridle rubbing. He had them in several places.

Also I would advise not to treat them yourself. Don't put anything on them unless the vet say so.
 
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