Would you buy this horse - honest opinion pls?

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Hi,

I'm hoping your knowledgeable peeps would be kind enough to offer opinions on this horse:
http://www.horses-sales.com/cgi-bin/viewads2.pl?a=88895

I've enough horses, so not for me, but a friend is looking for a youngish horse and keeps going back to this add, and recently mentioned oh they are still for sale and the price has dropped and I like! A bit of umming and arring going on, likes but scared to death I think of picking the wrong one.

So I thought I'd see if I could get some honest opinions, I'm not good on a conformation front myself, maybe something screams out to you guys that know what you're looking at.

Any opinions or advice would be greatly appreciated, thank you xxx
 
Depends on how experienced your friend is

Personally I would want to know why they haven't ridden the horse or had it ridden. Horses are always more sellable at that age if they have started work. so would just be a little suspicious that they at least suspected it maybe difficult or very fizzy
 
I was at the Monty Demo at Gleneagles that he was used in and he certainly catches your eye.
He is a lovely looking horse but is very sharp i've never been to a demo where they didn't actually ride like they did with him.
 
soulfull said:
Depends on how experienced your friend is

Personally I would want to know why they haven't ridden the horse or had it ridden. Horses are always more sellable at that age if they have started work. so would just be a little suspicious that they at least suspected it maybe difficult or very fizzy
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Yeah thats has occured to me, whereas it wouldn't concern me if the horse was 3.
There is certainly a lot of questions to be asked on that front x
 
gillianfleming said:
I was at the Monty Demo at Gleneagles that he was used in and he certainly catches your eye.
He is a lovely looking horse but is very sharp i've never been to a demo where they didn't actually ride like they did with him.
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Oh thats very interesting that you've seen this boy in the flesh.
Mmm very sharp doesn't sound much fun!
and also interesting you say they never actually rode him, this suggests he's a horse thats gonna need a lot more work than your average one.

I think he's lovely to look at, and his price even in the current market seems low for such a beautiful horse, and I have wondered many times why.
I also wonder how he's not sold when so many people have responded to the add, this suggests his looks are catching peoples eyes, but no one is following through and actually buying him x
 
He was a really lovely mover.

From what they said they hadn't even had a roller on him before, but sis was remembering that they did sit on him but only walked him a couple of steps.

I would think from what he was like he will need plenty of work.
 
gillianfleming said:
He was a really lovely mover.

From what they said they hadn't even had a roller on him before, but sis was remembering that they did sit on him but only walked him a couple of steps.

I would think from what he was like he will need plenty of work.
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Thanks :D
I've a youngster myself, a DWB, now I plan to send her away to be back by professionals.
I think my friend would do the same, from what you saw do you think professionals would have any problems with him?
You saying he's very sharp suggests straight away that my friend wouldn't back him herself, I could be wrong but I think she's like me, if easy and straight forward she'd have a go but if not, she'd get the job done by the right people x
 
I would not view the fact they did not ride the horse as a bad thing.

I personally prefer him not to have been ridden as as good as monty is, however you look at it to back a horse at a demo is rushing.

If the ground work is done slowly and properly then hopefully the actual backing should cause little or no problems. It is usually latter when the horse is more wise to the world and stronger do the problems start only baby problems but the horse will test the boundaries, and if the horse is sharp then particularaly so.

If your friend is not experianced in starting young horses though I expect this in not an ideal first candidate.

Lovely looking horse though for some one with experiance and a good price too.
 
I would be interested to know, conformation wise, if anyone else thinks his hooves are reeeelly short (particularly the front)! I know there are modern schools of thought that prefer them a bit shorter, but these look even shorter than barefoot ones I've seen. Maybe is just a funny picture or something, but to me it rings alarm bells about dodgy farriery, and I would definitely want to check them out in person.
 
gnubee said:
I would be interested to know, conformation wise, if anyone else thinks his hooves are reeeelly short (particularly the front)! I know there are modern schools of thought that prefer them a bit shorter, but these look even shorter than barefoot ones I've seen. Maybe is just a funny picture or something, but to me it rings alarm bells about dodgy farriery, and I would definitely want to check them out in person.
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Impossible to tell from pics as he's standing in sand x
 
missyme10 said:
Yeah there is an alarm bell ringing here, I think this boy although very beautiful may be a hell of a handful x
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Most certainly. getting someone to back him would only be the beginning. He is possibly going to always be a sharp very experienced ride.

If he is sharp he is smart too so would so easily learn how to take the p*** and unless rider is smarter and more experienced it is a disaster waiting to happen
 
gnubee said:
I would be interested to know, conformation wise, if anyone else thinks his hooves are reeeelly short (particularly the front)! I know there are modern schools of thought that prefer them a bit shorter, but these look even shorter than barefoot ones I've seen. Maybe is just a funny picture or something, but to me it rings alarm bells about dodgy farriery, and I would definitely want to check them out in person.
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He's standing in quite deep sand so I think that he's sunk a bit :)

Well there is certainly no harm in ringing. Just be prepared to ask a lot of questions about why he hasn't been backed properly yet and others about his temperament.
 
I would be very, very suspicious of a horse not backed at 4.5 and that was used at Monty Roberts demo. Would suggest owners suspect or know there is a problem in my opionon...
 
Yeah there's no harm in ringing and asking lots of questions.

There may be a genuine reason he's not been backed yet like they didn't think he was mature enough, or they felt out of their depth and he was to much for them but may not be for someone more experienced.

I think its the 14 messages they have had that worries me, there has clearly being a lot of enquiries about this horse and I know he's been on the market for sometime, so lot of enquiries and no one has bought even though he's low price - there has to be a reason for this. I suspect it is because only the most experience type of person, ie. one who backs for a living could deal with them. That your average joe bloggs horse person looking for their first youngster to produce wouldn't cope with them - because if he was straight forward, surely he would have sold by now????

Its also possible people are just skeptical because of price and age and make the presumption that something is wrong, and this is certainly how I've viewed the add, I can't help but feel that a horse with his looks if decent temprement and trainable attitude would have been snapped up ages ago, and there is a reason he hasn't been x
 
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