Would you do it all at once and get it out the way, or spread the carnage?

[echodomino]

With puppies???

OH and I have had a mortgage accepted and are in the process of house hunting, had one fall through as it was a repo and they have to leave it open for 28 days, some starbad put in a higher offer the day after the bank accepted ours and asked for solicitors details - grr!! By the by lol (just bore you with details!!) We'll hopefully have our own house soon and that means 3 of the five four legged friends will live with us - we've snuck Millie in, Mouse can't come with us because Millie will eat her, Bridget Midget and Jim will be with me, Stanley can't come because he's not 100% with kids (OH has 3 that class as kids lol) so Mouse and Stan staying with mum.

I'm having a litter out of Mouse in Jan/Feb when she comes into season and am keeping a girl - it's been the plan of attack for a long time so it IS happening OH wanted a GSD but isn't sure that we'll have space for a GSD, a Bridget Midget and 3 terrier-ists. We do both however, like Staffies and I grew up with a Staff x.

Am now toying with having a Staff pup at the same time as Jack pup?? Put me off, tell me I'm barking!!! (haha) It's just it might be easier to get all puppyhood out the way instead of getting one through it and getting another. I know we work full time but my mum's on hand for dog sitting/toilet duties.

I know I'm usually the first on here to say don't have two!!

Discuss!!!

 

[Ranyhyn]

I always caution against getting two pups together, it's hard enough work getting one on the straight an narrow let alone 2/3..

BUT I had Roly in Dec and Lil in Feb and I will say they weren't too bad, Roly had already learnt basic commands and had been almost fully house trained so he had good things to teach Lil, but since having them both they have hardly learnt a single thing because its so damn hard to teach anything when the other one wants in ALL THE TIME!

 

[cobgirlie]

I would never rehome 2 puppies to the same house, then again I'd never rehome any puppies to a family who've just moved in either!! I'd leave it til you are settled and the jobs are done, puppies are a massive commitment and if you are messing around doing jobs around the house do you really need a puppy chewing, peeing and getting in the way of everything?

Aside from the fact do you know how many numbers of JRT's are in rescue at the moment, unless your dog is something special (and I know they are all special!) then why breed even more dogs into a country already saturated with unwanted animals?

 

[2Greys]

Could you not get an adult staffy instead to skip one puppy stage, with so many in rescue at the moment wouldn't of thought it would be too difficult to find one that would suit.

 

[echodomino]

I always caution against getting two pups together, it's hard enough work getting one on the straight an narrow let alone 2/3..

I know That's why normally I'd be against it myself, having kept 2 from the same litter before - though Bridget is a star.

I would never rehome 2 puppies to the same house, then again I'd never rehome any puppies to a family who've just moved in either!! I'd leave it til you are settled and the jobs are done, puppies are a massive commitment and if you are messing around doing jobs around the house do you really need a puppy chewing, peeing and getting in the way of everything?

Aside from the fact do you know how many numbers of JRT's are in rescue at the moment, unless your dog is something special (and I know they are all special!) then why breed even more dogs into a country already saturated with unwanted animals?

Could you come across a little less patronizing?
I know what commitment is involved with puppies, I'm not a novice!!! I've moved before too and don't find it that taxing. I also can't help timing with Mouse as it's down to her cycle not my plans.

It's also not a decision I've taken lightly, I am an experienced breeder but don't breed that often, only when I want to keep one and I can put my puppies in the best, permanent homes I can find. I only let my puppies go to their new owners on the proviso that I have them back should the worst occur. It's down to backstreet breeders, puppy farmers, irresponsible breeding that rescues are full of dogs, homed to people for money not suitability, not those of us who take a lot of care and effort to raise and home our puppies.

Jacks don't have a breed standard as such, not being a KC recognised breed, however, being brought up around show dogs, I know Mouse has good confirmation. She also has an excellent temperament with anything and everything. I want something from her to continue agility with and like to know as much about where my dogs come from as possible.

Aside that, my post was nothing about my breeding ethics or what's in rescue. It was about having to puppies at the same time to get "puppyhood" out the way together or to get one over it then get the second.

Could you not get an adult staffy instead to skip one puppy stage, with so many in rescue at the moment wouldn't of thought it would be too difficult to find one that would suit.

If I could find the right one I may consider an older one, when I was living with my parents we rehomed a couple of older dogs, though from people we know, not rescues. I'd need to know as much about the history of the dog though, i.e it's upbringing. And it'd have to get along with the dogs we've already got. The Staffy x I grew up with was a rescue though.


It's just something I'm toying with at the moment, I've been planning the JRT pup for yonks yet OH would like something that's his/ours as well as the existing mob - which were mine before I met him.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Honestly, I'd stagger it. A house move is stressful enough, and two pups of similar age at the same time would personally, put my head away.

 

[echodomino]

Honestly, I'd stagger it. A house move is stressful enough, and two pups of similar age at the same time would personally, put my head away.

Put your head away??

I think I'll think it over properly once we've moved, like I said it's just something to toy around with. Plus once OH gets a bee in his bonnet.........

 

[MurphysMinder]

The only time I had 2 pups remotely close together (one born Nov one born Jan), I was guiltily aware that the younger one did lose out. It is not something I would ever do again, I far prefer to focus on on youngster at a time.

 

[echodomino]

Doh! All you sensible heads

 

[CinnamonChristmasCookie]

Right, Mrs Desperately not-sensible here!

When I got my two, I'd never heard about not having two puppies together and definitely not heard about litter mates fighting! We therefore trotted off to Hereford when my father-in-law sourced us a mixed colour litter of spangles (loved his two litter mates-oops, aren't we all terrible!) We never had a moment's bother with them being brothers or having two together.

After Jake was PTS, we found a litter a week later and went and got two eek together. I'm not denying that I've found it harder this time round but only because I think I'm frankly depressed (oops, haven't mentioned that one yet!) and I resented them for not being Jake.

I would say that having the two together is hard work but great fun: the comparing and contrasting of their development is fun.

I don't think big dog is neglected: if anything, I've overcompensated with him.

Ultimately, it's all very well coming on here for advice: you'll get plenty of conflicting advice and then you go and do what you want, same as we all do!

 

[echodomino]

Ultimately, it's all very well coming on here for advice: you'll get plenty of conflicting advice and then you go and do what you want, same as we all do!

Gives us something to do of an evening though doesn't it

I know it's mental, I've done it. We had 2 out of the 2nd litter we had, and I think that's harder 'cos they're closer? And I kept Bridget and mum kept Pea - but I was living with them so the 2 grew up together.

 

[flowerlady]

Could you come across a little less patronizing?
I know what commitment is involved with puppies, I'm not a novice!!! I've moved before too and don't find it that taxing. I also can't help timing with Mouse as it's down to her cycle not my plans.

How rude

You asked people to discuss then when they don't say what you want to hear you call them patronizing

 

[cobgirlie]

How rude

You asked people to discuss then when they don't say what you want to hear you call them patronizing

Lol Thanks but I've heard alot worse from alot more intelligent.

Go ahead sweetie have lots of cute ickle puppies running around, I'm sure some rescue will come bail you out when you a) can't rehome all the JRT's your poor dog has been forced to pop out b) your staffie puppy has ripped apart your shiney new house c) your OH has seen sense and left you in the lurch because he couldn't be doing with your selfish nature.

Want more cos honestly I can go on for hours.

 

[mollichop]

My main concern would not be whether to get 2 pups together or 1 at a time but to focus on the dogs you already have. They will be adjusting from the move, settling into a new environment and then have 1, poss 2 new additions thrown into the mix!

Take your time in my opinion, especially as you may be left with several JRT pups when the homes aren't lined up - nothing is certain at the moment.

 

[echodomino]

How rude

You asked people to discuss then when they don't say what you want to hear you call them patronizing

I asked them to discuss two puppies being brought up together, not slaughter me for breeding from my dog. I don't find the opinion patronizing, just the second part of the post about my breeding - perhaps patronizing was the wrong word.

My apologies cobgirlie I didn't mean for my post to come across the way it has, it's no excuse but the last couple of days haven't been fab, again, I'm sorry.

Lol Thanks but I've heard alot worse from alot more intelligent.

Go ahead sweetie have lots of cute ickle puppies running around, I'm sure some rescue will come bail you out when you a) can't rehome all the JRT's your poor dog has been forced to pop out b) your staffie puppy has ripped apart your shiney new house c) your OH has seen sense and left you in the lurch because he couldn't be doing with your selfish nature.

Want more cos honestly I can go on for hours.

a) If I couldn't rehome them, they'd stay with me. Not ideal but part of the responsibilities of breeding. I assume you're anti-breeding any way, that's your opinion you're entitled to it
b) Aside the fact that shredding is general puppy behavior, why would my house end up shredded? My dogs get out for a good free run every day, they come down the stables with me and when my OH or I are at work, we come back on our break to spend time with the dogs or my mum is more than happy to pop in.
c) Why am I selfish? And it's my OH who wants the dogs too!

Go on for as long as you like, it has nothing to do with my original post, and I've apologised for my reply to your post.

 

[echodomino]

My main concern would not be whether to get 2 pups together or 1 at a time but to focus on the dogs you already have. They will be adjusting from the move, settling into a new environment and then have 1, poss 2 new additions thrown into the mix!

Take your time in my opinion, especially as you may be left with several JRT pups when the homes aren't lined up - nothing is certain at the moment.

I agree with you.

Nothing was certain any way, I've said it's just an idea we're toying with. It'd be May/June next year, not immediately.

 

[Puppy]

a) If I couldn't rehome them, they'd stay with me. Not ideal but part of the responsibilities of breeding. I assume you're anti-breeding any way, that's your opinion you're entitled to it

But you're rehoming two of the ones you already have with your mother because your existing dogs don't all get along...?

 

[fatpony]

Its your choice whether or not to breed from your dog however bear in mind that it is a lot harder to find good homes for pups with the current financial climate especially considering the large litters JRTs can have.
As far as getting a second pup while having a litter at home - depends how you time it and how healthy your litter is - I wouldnt want to bring another pup in until your litter is weaned and preferably vaccinated and then need to be very careful that new pup doesnt bring in any gut infections/worms/parasites/dreaded parvo/mites/lice etc.
As regards bringing up two pups dont see much problem unless they are both total hooligans!! is harder to train two at once so need to spend individual time with them.

 

[echodomino]

As far as getting a second pup while having a litter at home - depends how you time it and how healthy your litter is - I wouldnt want to bring another pup in until your litter is weaned and preferably vaccinated and then need to be very careful that new pup doesnt bring in any gut infections/worms/parasites/dreaded parvo/mites/lice etc.

Of course I wouldn't be looking at the 2nd pup until the litter have homes and the one I've got is vaccinated, if we decide to have 2 together.

But you're rehoming two of the ones you already have with your mother because your existing dogs don't all get along...?

They already live with my mum, Stanley is more her dog any way, she kept him for showing, I started competing him in agility, she signed him over to me. He gets on smashingly with other dogs, he's not good with kids and my OH's four year old is the right height to get snapped in the face if he can't cope - he's strange, sometimes he's ok, other times he's not, I'm not prepared to put a child at risk and my mum wants me to leave him any way.

Mouse gets on really well with other dogs, so does Millie, they just don't like each other. My brother's very fond of Mouse so to me rather than live treading on egg shells it makes sense to leave her where she is instead of the constant caution of having the two together.

I'd have thought they were sensible decisions? Maybe I'm wrong.