Would you do the same thing?......

No as I would have loop throttled the attacking dog & fastened it to the railings.

There is something not reported as leaving to get a knife and returning to stab the dog is not exactly self defence.
 
As S4S, restricting air supply is the best way to stop an attacker, most people will have a dog lead or belt to hand.

But I would not put myself at threat of danger or prosecution - I am more important to my parents than a dog.

Mistakes on both sides there methinks.
 
I would do the same as S4sugar, we did have an incident with another dog and Pip when she was a young pup. I had both Dobes on the lead and this other dog was growling over her, if it had attacked her I would have let Darcy off the lead. I know this wouldnt have been an ideal situation but I wasnt near enough to protect Pip or to get the other dog off. Luckily Pip jumped up and growled back at this other dog and it ran off.

I do know of people in Bristol who when walking their dogs carry a hammer just in case their dog gets attacked.
 
God no. Go back to my house, pick up a knife and stab a dog to death? I couldn't do it. I've kicked a dog that was attacking mine when he was a pup and i think kicking or choking is as far as I'd go.
 
Tbh I have no idea what I'd do, but I can't imagine acting totally rationally in such circumstances :(

To those suggesting throttling - does this really work, esp with a large dog like this one? I'm only small and not that strong, and I can't imagine having the strength to cut off the air supply. After all, if my dogs are on a slip lead or similar they can pull hard enough to nearly tip me up, but ate still able to breathe. Perhaps I'm missing something - would be v interested to know.
 
I couldn't do that and i can't believe he was let off- that's not self defence as he didn't act instantly it was pre meditated going into the house and gettin not one but three knives and then stabbing multiple times- that's not a normal act.
Im sure that dog would have stopped attacking it with one wound to a back leg- not enough stab wounds to kill it.
Loop lead round and choke other dog.
 
This dog had history as he had attacked other dogs before and was allowed to run around the estate on his own.

The dogs death is down to the very irresponsible owner and I hope the police prosecute her.
 
Yes I would do the same. The dog sounds like a nightmare. No doubt she will toddle off and get another one off preloved.
 
Broodle said:
Tbh I have no idea what I'd do, but I can't imagine acting totally rationally in such circumstances :(

To those suggesting throttling - does this really work, esp with a large dog like this one? I'm only small and not that strong, and I can't imagine having the strength to cut off the air supply. After all, if my dogs are on a slip lead or similar they can pull hard enough to nearly tip me up, but ate still able to breathe. Perhaps I'm missing something - would be v interested to know.
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Put the noose right up high behind the ears and lift UP, not back, lift the front feet off the ground. That's for throttling a dog, not for teaching a heel, by the way!!!
Most people use slip leads slung around the shoulder and the dogs are allowed to walk out in front. That's great for popping on and off gundogs in the field (their original purpose) but won't stop a dog from pulling.
 
I seriously can't envisage EVER running back to my house to grab a knife in relation to a dog fight... the woman who owns the bulldog was foolish and irresponsible but to see your own dog stabbed to death in what sounds like a pretty brutal fashion must have been horrific.

I've choked dogs that weigh as much as me off other dogs - it is easier than you'd think and a brachy dog like an american bull would be pretty easy to choke.

Fault on both sides here, but disgusting nonetheless.
 
I seriously cannot believe some have said the dog had it coming... :o

The man had a small dog, he could've simply picked his own dog up out of the way - instead he had time to think and get not 1 but 3 knives to stab a dog 23 times...

To my mind that is absolutely abhorrent and if it were my dog he had stabbed I would make his life hell

Yes the ambull should have been on a lead but *******s did it deserve to die in that way

Anyone who thinks otherwise should be deeply ashamed of themselves - you are not animal lovers in any sense of the word

Kim
 
My old terrier was attacked by an Akita - similar type of situation as reported here. The Akita was owned by toerags that let her run loose attacking other dogs at will.

Those who say can't you just pick up your small dog, well that's hard to do when it's being held by the big dog (huge damage can be done trying to tear them apart) and once I managed to pull off the Akita - by the scruff of the neck with lots of noise and using my feet!) she stood over my dog and 'guarded'. In previous attacks on other dogs she had done this and killed another dog by slowly disemboweling it...the other owner in that case had small children with her and didn't feel able to pile in to get her dog. The Akita's owner was a nutter and used to laugh as his dog attacked others.

In fairness to the Akita, when I booted her off my dog (and had to put my face close to hers to pull my dog from under her) she didn't retaliate even when she could have easily bitten me especially as I was taking her 'prize' from her. I did manage to get a belt around her neck and once I did she calmed right down. Her owner's son finally came out to get her and got a mouthful (and the vet bill eventually which of course they ignored).

After that I seriously considered having the dog shot the next time she was roaming - how's that for acting out of the heat of the moment? - as she was an absolute liability. The amount of dogs she attacked was in double figures at that point with at least 2 dogs killed so the attacks were always serious, not scuffles IYSWIM. As it happened the nutter owner feel foul of a bigger nutter and moved on but the only thing that stopped me from really pushing for shooting while she was roaming on local farmland was that she could have but didn't go for people even under pressure.

I still remember talking to that poor woman whose dog was slowly killed in front of her and her kids and how the owner stood and laughed while it was happening. Him I'd happily have shot tbh.
 
Cbmcts - even considering having the dog shot is nothing compared to what this man did...shooting would be quick and painless, the stabbing was prolonged and frenzied and the dog would've suffered immensely

Yes for sure some owners would be better off shot...but it is never the dog at fault and it should never be the dog who is punished for dog on dog attacks

Kim
 
No. You never need to stab a dog 23 times, unless it was the size of an elephant and you couldn't reach vulnerable areas. Panic and fear does make us do ridiculous and irrational things, though.
 
kimberleigh said:
I seriously cannot believe some have said the dog had it coming... :o

The man had a small dog, he could've simply picked his own dog up out of the way - instead he had time to think and get not 1 but 3 knives to stab a dog 23 times...

To my mind that is absolutely abhorrent and if it were my dog he had stabbed I would make his life hell

Yes the ambull should have been on a lead but *******s did it deserve to die in that way

Anyone who thinks otherwise should be deeply ashamed of themselves - you are not animal lovers in any sense of the word

Kim
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How on earth did he pick his dog up if the bigger dog had it in its mouth? tbh I don't think I could stick a knife in but imagine watching it kill your pet...I would certainly have been doing everything I could to get it off and if it was injured as a result that would be tough.
 
kimberleigh said:
The man had a small dog, he could've simply picked his own dog up out of the way - instead he had time to think and get not 1 but 3 knives to stab a dog 23 times...
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I wouldn't advise eve picking up a small dog being attacked by a larger dog, you'll just end up getting bitten too. 'Simply' is a word that can seldom be used during a dog fight.
 
my God thats awful

No, there is no way I could stab a dog, my dogs have been on the recieving end of attacks before and my first dog (when I was 13yrs) would be giving as good as the other dog, I always waded in with my feet sometimes having to kick as hard as I could to get the dogs to stop-these days I would choke if possible but failing that it would be feet not a flipping knife. I dont think its normal for stabbing to be what first comes to mind in a situation like that, but thats me.
 
I could not kill an animal, so no, i would not run in to my house and grab a knife with the intent to kill it. If my dog was being attacked i wouldn't run off to my house and leave it anyway. I would maybe kick/punch/ whatever the attacking dog in an attempt to get it off my dog but i would never do enough to kill it and im sure i would feel guilt afterwards for kicking/punching it even if it was attacking my dog.
 
He owned a staffordshire bull terrier, a breed more than capable of fighting its corner while the owner slipped a lead round the ambulls neck and choked him off - if he did indeed have a true hold on his dog

I don't get where all this punch/kick nonsense comes from - if a dog has a hold of another dog they are relatively still, it isn't difficult to get a lead round the neck of the dog with the stronger hold and because its jaws are otherwise occupied with hanging onto the other dog there is less chance of being bitten!

Anyone with a dog should know how to quickly and easily disable a real fight

Kim
 
I had a dog in Australia, years ago, whos life greatest pleasure was a good fight. He rarely stood still while doing it though...he would lock on to the other dog who would either lock on back or be trying to get away, there was a lot of throwing each other around. I could always get him off and became, sadly, quite expert at it. You could get hold of them but it certanly wasn't easy as you say.

ETA and mine was a dobermann x kelpie so didn't have half the gripping strength or determination of a staffie or bulldog.
 
The thought of an AmBull running out of control makes my blood run cold.The owner is the one responsible for it`s death,it might have been possible to choke it off with a slip lead,but that is a mighty big strong and determined dog.Plus,once off and hopefully secured,will the attacked dog then retaliate and start it all over again? Of course he should not have stabbed it..but it should never have been put in that situation by a stupid owner should it?BTW, a "stab in a leg" will NOT deter bull breeds from carrying on the fight,resilience is bred into them,and in a fight they feel no pain and are bred to ignore it.Horrible tough though it is,in the bull baiting/dog fighting days it was sometimes a bitch with puppies to sell being fought,and far worse injuries were inflicted on the dog to prove it`s "gameness",those injuries were fatal ones,but the dog stayed locked on,and the puppies sold better.Until you have seen and broken up bullie fights you really cannot imagine their tenacity,and yet they are all fantastic dopey companion dogs and children excellent.Just other animals are their game.
 
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kimberleigh said:
He owned a staffordshire bull terrier, a breed more than capable of fighting its corner while the owner slipped a lead round the ambulls neck and choked him off - if he did indeed have a true hold on his dog

I don't get where all this punch/kick nonsense comes from - if a dog has a hold of another dog they are relatively still, it isn't difficult to get a lead round the neck of the dog with the stronger hold and because its jaws are otherwise occupied with hanging onto the other dog there is less chance of being bitten!

Anyone with a dog should know how to quickly and easily disable a real fight

Kim
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not all dogs hold on in a fight IME its only the breeds with stronger jaws

when in the throws of a fight my dog was never still and did not lock on so if you had tried to put something round his neck I gaurantee you would have been bitten (I was many times!) a well aimed kick used to create enough of a distraction that distance between the dogs was created and then you could get hold of them. saying that I was a kid and I have not dealt with a dog fight for many many years, one of mine is dominant and will 'swear' but it is never allowed to escalate
 
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