would you do this

tinpot said:
i cant believe what a woman done at yard today:eek:
she owned an aged arab totally fit aged 20 years young (PTS) because she could not ride her( Nothing to do with the horse just she was incapable lack of experiance) such a waste of a lovely horse (not the first shes had PTS this year either) thinging of calling some one
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Well done that lady! Wish there were more like her that way the markets would be almost empty:)
 
Yes I would and do you know what? I would be very sad to do it but unlike all the people who would have chuntered and bitched and called me all the names there are - I at least, would have the reassurance that a difficult to home horse was at peace. Maybe this lady took the advice of one of the major horses charities (WHW, Horseworld) ? This is exactly what they advise that owners do in situations like these.

It's called being responsible. You are welcome to disagree with other's choices but you have no right or reason to expect to influence them. That right is reserved for friends and I think I am safe in assuming that you are no friend of hers. I do hope this lady does have some friends that are supporting her at a difficult time like this and that your entire yard isn't making a sad time even harder with attitudes like yours.
 
I am of the mind that if I was no longer able to look after my 18 year old, I'd have him pts so I know he ended his life safe and with people he knows. He's abit quirky and its taken me 2 yrs to suss him out but he is the type that could easily end up in the wrong hands so that's my decision if the worst happens, I owe him that at least. Maybe this owner was doing the best for her horse so you shouldn't really judge even if it is upsetting
 
Actually if what OP said is correct that the owner PTS because she couldnt manage the horse due to lack of experience then it is a shame, i say this after coming home from a lovely 2 hour ride on my nutty 23yr old Arab. If she had bothered to advertise the horse in the right place....a quick mention on Arabianlines would have done the trick, i can pretty much guarantee it would have found a home. Arab enthusiasts probably would jump at the chance, for that matter had i still be looking i wouldnt have thought twice about offering a home to it.
However if there were underlying health issues then yes, i do think she did the right thing, my old boy will never be sold or passed on & were i in the situation that i couldnt keep him then i would PTS....but im not even going to think about things like that, i dread the day i loose him :(
 
I think it's wrong to judge the lady's decision when you don't know all the facts. My oldest mare is 22 years old and I've owned her since she was three, she still acts like a 3 year old at times :D.

If it came to a point when I couldn't keep her for whatever reason I would have her PTS rather than risk her ending up god knows where, it would break my heart but I'd rather that that her be sold and end up not been looked after properly.
 
my mare is 13 and I am facing putting what seems a healthy horse to sleep = my reason - she as problems with bad bad stress due to her life before me(battered horrifically) which I can manage given her routine stays same etc etc and she is half blind. Im poss moving out the area and I do not want to put her through stress of moving new sounds new noises new routine new field - if I could find a yard to take her and let her live in a herd.- all which needs to be constant given her sight . Her sight is slowly going and i believe to early than to late Am I wrong ? personally I dont give a damn what people think had all the comments :)- i will bring her in quietly from the herd she loves and quietly she will be put to sleep with me by her side talking to her and being strong for her - my little soul mate and friend who I made a promised to that she would never feel fear again - so am I wrong :) x
 
Difficult decision, but yes, I would.
I've seen far too many aged horses (mainly from links on here) stood at sales waiting to be bought - its just not the life for them at all, they deserve their last days to be in luxury and comfort with their own things around them and if you have a veteran and can no longer ensure that, then PTS may be an option to think of.
I'd hate to think of my mare being passed around pillar to post; she'd never cope.
K x
 
cbmcts said:
Yes I would and do you know what? I would be very sad to do it but unlike all the people who would have chuntered and bitched and called me all the names there are - I at least, would have the reassurance that a difficult to home horse was at peace. Maybe this lady took the advice of one of the major horses charities (WHW, Horseworld) ? This is exactly what they advise that owners do in situations like these.

It's called being responsible. You are welcome to disagree with other's choices but you have no right or reason to expect to influence them. That right is reserved for friends and I think I am safe in assuming that you are no friend of hers. I do hope this lady does have some friends that are supporting her at a difficult time like this and that your entire yard isn't making a sad time even harder with attitudes like yours.
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Absolutely agree! well put! PTS is not a decision that anyone would come to lightly having made this decision myself earlier this year I know!!!
 
just wanted to say thanks to most of you for your bitching and snipe remarks.
FACT i do know the situation very well thank you, their were no under lying problems with the horse and cost not a problem. only problem the horse was too lively for her to ride (20 yrs old) and she didn't bother to see if anyone could offer her a loving home.

and im glad to see by a few comments that im not the only one who feels this way.
 
tinpot said:
just wanted to say thanks to most of you for your bitching and snipe remarks.
FACT i do know the situation very well thank you, their were no under lying problems with the horse and cost not a problem. only problem the horse was too lively for her to ride (20 yrs old) and she didn't bother to see if anyone could offer her a loving home.

and im glad to see by a few comments that im not the only one who feels this way.
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Tinpot, you've come to a horse riders forum, not a horse lovers forum - or at least that's how it appears to me sometimes...there are people on here who will openly admit that they will have their horses PTS if they couldn't ride them and those who will keep their horses going for years and years in retirement.
But there's no point in getting wound up about it - everyone is always going to disagree with each other.
We live in a very much throwaway society now, but there's nothing you can do about it.
 
OP please don’t vilify the owner for doing the brave and responsible thing for HER aged horse. Perhaps she reads some of the cr@p that gets spouted on here and felt her horse had a better future being pts than ending up in the wrong hands. Being a responsible and committed owner means having to make the toughest of choices sometimes.
 
Holly Hocks said:
Tinpot, you've come to a horse riders forum, not a horse lovers forum - or at least that's how it appears to me sometimes...there are people on here who will openly admit that they will have their horses PTS if they couldn't ride them and those who will keep their horses going for years and years in retirement.
But there's no point in getting wound up about it - everyone is always going to disagree with each other.
We live in a very much throwaway society now, but there's nothing you can do about it.
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Holly Hocks, it seems that you are implying that those who 'openly admit' to choosing to PTS are not horse lovers.

If so, that might get a justifiably angry reaction.

And to both you and Tinpot I would say: I would far, far rather see a horse euthanized because an owner cannot cope, for whatever reason, than that horse be left as so often happens; ignored, neglected and, as such, abused because the owner refuses to face their responsibilities.

In the first instance the horse neither knows nor cares. In the second, it very much does.
 
Mrs B said:
Holly Hocks, it seems that you are implying that those who 'openly admit' to choosing to PTS are not horse lovers.

If so, that might get a justifiably angry reaction.

And to both you and Tinpot I would say: I would far, far rather see a horse euthanized because an owner cannot cope, for whatever reason, than that horse be left as so often happens; ignored, neglected and, as such, abused because the owner refuses to face their responsibilities.

In the first instance the horse neither knows nor cares. In the second, it very much does.
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If you read my post properly you will see that I have written ALSO that there are others who keep their horses going for years and years in retirement - I haven't stated which I think is better or worse.
And yes, there is a difference between a horse rider and a horse lover - horse riders want to ride, horse lovers don't necessarily ride or want to ride. But you can also be both! Simples!
 
No! I wouldnt put my horse down OP. I think that all these threads advocating euthenasia for a 20 yr old horse, because she found her unmanagable should think again about the bleddy woman owning her in the first place. I doubt that she was thinking about the horses welfare anyway, just get rid of it. Hopefully she will resist in purchasing another poor horse that she cant manage.
 
lionman said:
No! I wouldnt put my horse down OP. I think that all these threads advocating euthenasia for a 20 yr old horse, because she found her unmanagable should think again about the bleddy woman owning her in the first place. I doubt that she was thinking about the horses welfare anyway, just get rid of it. Hopefully she will resist in purchasing another poor horse that she cant manage.
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Lionman speaks sense yet again......
 
Holly Hocks said:
If you read my post properly you will see that I have written ALSO that there are others who keep their horses going for years and years in retirement - I haven't stated which I think is better or worse.
And yes, there is a difference between a horse rider and a horse lover - horse riders want to ride, horse lovers don't necessarily ride or want to ride. But you can also be both! Simples!
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Actually, I did read it. Several times. It seems to me quite clear which you think is better or worse.
 
lionman said:
No! I wouldnt put my horse down OP. I think that all these threads advocating euthenasia for a 20 yr old horse, because she found her unmanagable should think again about the bleddy woman owning her in the first place. I doubt that she was thinking about the horses welfare anyway, just get rid of it. Hopefully she will resist in purchasing another poor horse that she cant manage.
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The voice of reason.
I do think there is a HUGE difference between PTS of a much loved horse, for whatever reason & the throw away attitude that the person OP is referring to. Can you all honestly say, hand on heart if you had a horse you just couldnt be bothered with you would have it PTS, especially if there was a good chance it would have found a new home?
 
Mrs B said:
Actually, I did read it. Several times. It seems to me quite clear which you think is better or worse.
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Ah, I see - I'm not allowed to have an opinion that differs from other posts on here? I thought that was the idea of a DISCUSSION forum - clearly I'm wrong. But I offer no apology for that.

Yes I do think it's wrong to PTS a horse IF it has nothing wrong with it and she can afford to keep it as the OP says she can. IF it has something wrong with it, fair enough, but the OP clearly stated that it hadn't and everyone accused the OP of being wrong with what she stated she knew! OP didn't deserve to be jumped on for having an opinion.
 
Holly Hocks said:
Ah, I see - I'm not allowed to have an opinion that differs from other posts on here? I thought that was the idea of a DISCUSSION forum - clearly I'm wrong. But I offer no apology for that.
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Errr.... I'm not quite sure why you have come to that conclusion! I was merely pointing out that when you stated you hadn't said which you thought was better or worse, I replied that I thought you had made it perfectly clear! :confused:
 
Holly Hocks said:
Ah, I see - I'm not allowed to have an opinion that differs from other posts on here? I thought that was the idea of a DISCUSSION forum - clearly I'm wrong. But I offer no apology for that.

Yes I do think it's wrong to PTS a horse IF it has nothing wrong with it and she can afford to keep it as the OP says she can. IF it has something wrong with it, fair enough, but the OP clearly stated that it hadn't and everyone accused the OP of being wrong with what she stated she knew! OP didn't deserve to be jumped on for having an opinion.
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HH, you know that you have got to go with the flow. PTS on this forum is THE only way!! FFS!
 
lionman said:
HH, you know that you have got to go with the flow. PTS on this forum is THE only way!! FFS!
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Sorry Lionman, I forgot - I had a momentary lapse of concentration....people would be horrified if they knew that mine were still alive, despite the endless setbacks! In fact isn't that red animal you have getting on a bit now? Isn't it time - you know - started making plans....LOL!!
 
Holly Hocks said:
Sorry Lionman, I forgot - I had a momentary lapse of concentration....people would be horrified if they knew that mine were still alive, despite the endless setbacks! In fact isn't that red animal you have getting on a bit now? Isn't it time - you know - started making plans....LOL!!
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HH, Plans will be in place when he is at the end of his life. I dont see that happening for a very long time! BUT like you I have a commitment to my horses, I dont shoot them at the drop of a hat, equally I dont sell them on! They are mine and I am not daft!
 
lionman said:
HH, Plans will be in place when he is at the end of his life. I dont see that happening for a very long time! BUT like you I have a commitment to my horses, I dont shoot them at the drop of a hat, equally I dont sell them on! They are mine and I am not daft!
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It would appear we are in a minority.....
 
Yikes, I could never end a life like that. We've spent thousands on my dog in just a year to help her and it never even came into my mind to end her life. She's still alive and kicking today, even if we have to spend £50 on tablets quite often!

Perhaps I get a little too attached to animals, since I don't really have many human friends, but even so!
 
Since my return to all things horsey, I don't think I've met a horse owner who'd pts their horse unless all other options were exhausted. The farm where I keep Mollie has a high quota of ageing/old/ancient retired or semi-retired horses. The oldest is in his 30s. Come to think of it, no-one sells them on either, they all seem to have been there forever!

So I assume that if someone has a horse pts, they probably have a good reason and theirs was a brave and heart-breaking decison.

People here seem to be saying there's a "throwaway culture" amongst some horse owners. If that's true, it makes me terribly sad. :(
 
Annielusian said:
Yikes, I could never end a life like that. We've spent thousands on my dog in just a year to help her and it never even came into my mind to end her life. She's still alive and kicking today, even if we have to spend £50 on tablets quite often!

Perhaps I get a little too attached to animals, since I don't really have many human friends, but even so!
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Isnt that what its all about? Getting very attached to our animals.
 
babymare said:
my mare is 13 and I am facing putting what seems a healthy horse to sleep = my reason - she as problems with bad bad stress due to her life before me(battered horrifically) which I can manage given her routine stays same etc etc and she is half blind. Im poss moving out the area and I do not want to put her through stress of moving new sounds new noises new routine new field - if I could find a yard to take her and let her live in a herd.- all which needs to be constant given her sight . Her sight is slowly going and i believe to early than to late Am I wrong ? personally I dont give a damn what people think had all the comments :)- i will bring her in quietly from the herd she loves and quietly she will be put to sleep with me by her side talking to her and being strong for her - my little soul mate and friend who I made a promised to that she would never feel fear again - so am I wrong :) x
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:( ohmy ..your post bought tears to my eyes .. :( xx
 
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