Would you let this lady rent your land/stables?

I know this lady said she doesn't work but perhaps she has a OH who does so there may be a decent household income.

Meet the lady and see how it goes, if you like her go for it with a good contract as others have said, if not wave goodbye.

Let us know how it goes.
 
Good point, that was my first thought. It's not a big plot, I'd want to rent it as a whole. If you rent this little bit to her there won't be much land left for anyone else to play with. You need someone with 2, and have them rotate the grazing.
 
My brother lives in a council house, he doesn't work - neither does his wife. They inherited a large sum of money when her mother died!

Do stop being such snobs! There are people who work, own houses who can be extremely poor payers as many a livery yard owner/saddlery/farrier/vet will tell you!

Work out what you want to be paid, meet with her and advise her of the costs. She may say she can't afford it. If not then I suggest that yoou offer her grazing only at a cheaper rate. Draw up a contract and have her sign it.

mikamoon99 - a field to rent is not that easy to find even for a short time.
 
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am sure tax payers won't mind funding her benefits for this purpose

a bloke near us is an alcoholic and we tax payers are paying £70 a week for him to keep his dogs with him.
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And your point is? Anyone on benefits should not have an animal????

I find that in the current climate the most insulting post i've read. Maybe hes an alcoholic for a specific reason and maybe the dog is company and a lease of life.
 
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I live in a council flat and I'm a single mum. I go to work, but there was a short time when I threw her Dad out that I was on benefit.

I hate the way people judge benefits and council housing. At the end of the day, as others have said, there may be geniune reasons why she cant work. And if you budget you could afford one horse on DIY.

Not everyone drives either.

To be honest though, I've given up with your posts, every single one of them seems to be another drama.
 
Oh good work!
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Just look at all those replies... Since when have councils concerned themselves with what people keep in their garden, anyway? *wanders off to find something more profitable to do, like counting eyebrow hairs*
 
Could you go and have a look at the horse in his current set up before making a decision? You will know instantly if the owner has a clue about caring for the horse and find out why she left her last yard.
I might be inclined to offer a short term grazing option (with a definate cut off date) to get him out of the shed and give the owner breathing space to look at other options, maybe somewhere where the youngster can have some company. If he is to be gelded then better he is out of that shed with limited turnout. Did she tell you the breed - he may be a shetland or he may be 16 hands!
 
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Why are they still in a council house? Assisted local authority housing (subsidised by the rest of us) is surely intended for those who cannot afford to buy? Mind you I am still pondering on why the 'hairy angel' gets an entire 4 bed council house to herself..
 
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Ive not read the previous posts so my unbiased view is.....no I wouldnt let this lady rent my facilities.

She has only one horse, its a youngster, she has no transport and is of the mind to keep it somewhere totally unsuitable. A garden and shed is NOT a suitable environment.

Id be concerned that the horse would be on its own and have less than quality care.

Sorry but thats my view.
 
Why not? Council housing is available to anyone who meets the criteria, and you should not have to give up your home once your circumstances change. Susan Boyle lived with her aged mother until she died; should she lose her home as well as the only significant person in her life? Council housing is not subsidised, that is a common misconception. Rent is lower than in the private sector because councils are not allowed to make whopping great profits.
 
Sorry no, anyone who buys a two year old colt hoping it will be a child's pony without proper facilities doesn't seem the ideal livery to me!
Where she lived or how wouldn't bother me, but her obvious lack of forthought before buying something incredibly difficult to find livery for would...
 
Council, or social housing, is there to provide a safe shelter for people who need it. I'm afraid I agree with Mother Hen on this, if you can afford to buy/rent privately, do not have special aids and adaptations, then you should not be taking up part of an ever dwindling social housing stock. There are people living in woefully inadequate housing, becaue they cannot access social housing, because people remain in houses they do not have priority need for, or they have bought them from the council, who are forced to sell in certain circumstances.
 
The only thing that would put me off was why was her horse taken off its past grazing poss because she could't pay? Don't think you should be put off by where she lives though
 
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Council, or social housing, is there to provide a safe shelter for people who need it. I'm afraid I agree with Mother Hen on this, if you can afford to buy/rent privately, do not have special aids and adaptations, then you should not be taking up part of an ever dwindling social housing stock. There are people living in woefully inadequate housing, becaue they cannot access social housing, because people remain in houses they do not have priority need for, or they have bought them from the council, who are forced to sell in certain circumstances.

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Councils housed the majority of normal working people up until they sold off all their stock - the reason for it being a dwindling criteria. We home immigrants into our affordable housing society which takes up another huge slice of the already minimal supplies. Private rent in the current market is expensive and mortgages are becoming more difficult to obtain. Councils are there to provide accommodation for those who cannot afford to buy/rent with the average house price at £150k how many single parents can afford such a cost even those with a good job?
 
Anyone can have a council house - you just have to put your name down and wait.

In special cases people are able to jump to the top of the list.

My brother put his name down when he was about 20 yrs old - he waited nearly eight years to get one. At the time he earned very little.
 
If nothing else, having a 2yr old colt will put off many people wanting to rent the rest of the land. Mares will be out, as will some geldings, dependent on temperament. Even after gelding, there will be a period where you cannot turn out next to/with mares. I would be saying no on this basis alone.

The shed thing does make alarm bells ring. It suggests that she either doesn't have any sense, or has been kicked off her previous land for a reason. Anyone being given notice to leave land for unavoidable reasons will be able to find *something* temporary. Seems a bit suss.

Nothing to do with the council thing in my case. I was born on a council estate and spent the first 6 yrs of my life on one. My Mum still lives in a 'Trust' house, so no snobbery, here!
 
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I used to live in a council house (or 3). I have also been in foster care, supported housing for young homeless people, and university halls (lol).

I don't think I am any more trustworthy now than I was then, or should I say, I was no less trustworthy then than I am now.

To the "He's an alcoholic and we're paying for his dogs". Well that's me f*kd then. i had an eating disorder, self harm, and was continually admitted to hospital for these. It was only getting a horse (which I funded with my DLA and Income support) which 'put me straight' so to speak. In fact, if I didn't get those benefits, then I would have been an even bigger drain on society! It's easy to judge alcoholics and people with MH, but I can promise you the majority don't exactly enjoy the way their life has turned.

Ask her for references from farrier/vet/ex livery yard (as is standard in some places anyway), and leave it. What she wants to do with HER horse is not your business. From the sounds of it she understands a gaden shed is not adequate, hence wanting to move to your yard. Refusing her the opportnuity is much more cruel (imho) than what you think she is doing.
 
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I used to live in a council house (or 3). I have also been in foster care, supported housing for young homeless people, and university halls (lol).

I don't think I am any more trustworthy now than I was then, or should I say, I was no less trustworthy then than I am now.

To the "He's an alcoholic and we're paying for his dogs". Well that's me f*kd then. i had an eating disorder, self harm, and was continually admitted to hospital for these. It was only getting a horse (which I funded with my DLA and Income support) which 'put me straight' so to speak. In fact, if I didn't get those benefits, then I would have been an even bigger drain on society! It's easy to judge alcoholics and people with MH, but I can promise you the majority don't exactly enjoy the way their life has turned.

Ask her for references from farrier/vet/ex livery yard (as is standard in some places anyway), and leave it. What she wants to do with HER horse is not your business. From the sounds of it she understands a gaden shed is not adequate, hence wanting to move to your yard. Refusing her the opportnuity is much more cruel (imho) than what you think she is doing.

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Couldnt have put it better myself!
 
This is remarkably similar to a woman who used to be at the place where I keep my mare. She bought two very well bred (pedigree) arab fillies. She lives in a council house, close enough to be just about in sight of the place, relies on on-off boyfriend for money to pay for the neds, doesn't drive and got taxis there and back to visit foals (bicycle anyone??). The novelty of cutsey foals obviously wore off pdq because the foals grew into basically unhandled fillies rather rapidly. They weren't nasty, but had not received lessons in personal space etc and were a pain when trying to catch your own horse. Eventually one was handed over to the teenage daughter of a "friend". I asked the kid if she had broken in a youngster before. Oh yes, she'd helped her friend. Turned out she'd stood around watching the friend. When the woman left us she owed £100s in unpaid rent and I believe there was trouble with the other yard too.

I grew up at a time when to get a council house you had to be too badly paid to own or rent privately. Sorry, but if you can own two horses you ain't poor. I rented for 20 years quite happily and live in penury in order to keep my horse.
 
If your income is from DSS, then most landlords won't rent out to you, and council/housing association is the only place you can find accomodation.

I had plenty of money, but again I could only rent from my housing association (shelter), but when I hit 24 I would have had to go into council housing.

I know plenty of people who own/rent their own homes who are absolutely dreadful horse owners, would you like me to reel them off?
 
Wow aren't there a hell of a lot of prejudice views on here! I live in what would be called a council house, and when I had my mare if I had been in the situation of suddenly losing her grazing, I would have brought her to live in my garden until I found somehere else. It's a big garden and I often use to bring her to graze for a week at a time, and we converted our shed that was built into the side of the house into a stable for when the weather got reaaly bad (she lived out all year).

Just because this lady doesn't work and doesn't drive, doesn't mean she is bad news.
 
I rent my yard to a lady who lives on a council estate but she does work p/t and has a car. I can't see someone who lives that far away from your yard getting there twice a day in winter using public transport, which might mean she wants the horse to live out 24/7 and that might trash your land. I had lots of replies from people "desperate" to rent my yard but I knew some of them would end disastrously and so put them off. It might be worth hanging on for someone who lives nearer. ps I won't allow stallions on my land, they're too much trouble.
 
Super. What I would do is have her bring the colt over, then when your mare has had her foal, bring her over during her foaling heat and have the cold impregnate her, then you can have the foal
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Isn't that a super plan!
 
OOps sorry misread your post as " living 10 to 15miles away" (must put my specs on!) Only issue in that respect would be the colt. As long as she was getting it gelded in the very near future so that you can rent the other stable don't discount her. Why don't you just charge her for diy if she's not prepared to rent the whole lot. Then you can get someone else in the spare stable and you'll be able to rotate the grazing better.
 
I would say no, I wouldn't want anyone who doesn't work and thinks it's ok to have a horse in a shed at the bottom of their garden.
 
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If your income is from DSS, then most landlords won't rent out to you, and council/housing association is the only place you can find accomodation.

I had plenty of money, but again I could only rent from my housing association (shelter), but when I hit 24 I would have had to go into council housing.

I know plenty of people who own/rent their own homes who are absolutely dreadful horse owners, would you like me to reel them off?

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Glad you had plenty of money from the DSS. I have to work for mine.
 
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